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Anti immigration and England being 'racist'

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AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 10:59

Do people know that this is not just a UK thing? I see so many people saying they are ashamed to be british etc but this is happening the world over. And it can work both ways! I have close family in Japan and there are protests there too and they are being treated very differently - yes, white english! The right are gaining traction there too. Are the Japanese allowed to be proud of their country and fly their flags? What's people's thoughts on this?

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Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 11:16

‘My point is more - do people realise this is going on around the world? Japan, Australia, I've just seen things are stepping up in France. US, of course.’

racism is universal? Who the fuck knew!? Thanks for enlightening us OP. In that case, the English flagshaggers should just keep on painting those roundabouts and yelling at hotels.

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AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:16

Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 11:14

Having just been to Japan I can confirm that we were some of the few non-Japanese people there and no-one, and I mean no-one, spoke anything other than Japanese. Than god for Google translate! Their culture seemed pretty Japanese to me…

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I go yearly. Everyone learns English in school so you can get by without speaking Japanese but it is much appreciated of course. But yes I have most of my convos in English as my Japanese isn't great! Try again.

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DiscoBob · 10/09/2025 11:16

AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:14

My point is more - do people realise this is going on around the world? Japan, Australia, I've just seen things are stepping up in France. US, of course.

My family have always been treated well in JP until recently. One of them went to buy pokemon cards the other day and was told by the shop owner they only sell to Japanese 😆

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I am aware that the feeling of hostility and racism towards outsiders happens in just about every country. I'd imagine most people wouldn't think the UK is the only place experiencing it.

I'm sorry if you or anyone you know experienced racism in Japan. Or anywhere.

KhakiTiger · 10/09/2025 11:15

Mass immigration and uncontrolled borders are not a good thing. There is nothing racist about that.

You can add all the fluff to try and label people as racist, it doesn’t work anymore. And you are not doing any favors to race relations by being in denial.

Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 11:14

MiddleAgedMusings · 10/09/2025 11:12

What specific examples do they have of their culture being eroded?
Foreign residents in Japan make up 3% of the population

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Having just been to Japan I can confirm that we were some of the few non-Japanese people there and no-one, and I mean no-one, spoke anything other than Japanese. Than god for Google translate! Their culture seemed pretty Japanese to me…

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AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:14

DiscoBob · 10/09/2025 11:12

I can imagine that to be true. Historically Japan have always been wary of immigration and cultural change. But if someone is racist it doesn't matter where they're from. They're a bigot.

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My point is more - do people realise this is going on around the world? Japan, Australia, I've just seen things are stepping up in France. US, of course.

My family have always been treated well in JP until recently. One of them went to buy pokemon cards the other day and was told by the shop owner they only sell to Japanese 😆

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2dogsandabudgie · 10/09/2025 11:14

I think humans are tribal and we see our countries as part of our identity and a sense of belonging so when we see that changing it makes us feel insecure.

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AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:12

Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 11:11

Re-read what you wrote.
Flagshag away, it’s a free country. But racism is racism in any form and the fact that other countries also have people being racist is neither here nor there.

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Thanks so much for the interesting discussion

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DiscoBob · 10/09/2025 11:12

AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:08

It doesn't. But they have really serious concerns there about immigration and in particualr about the Japanese culture disappearing

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I can imagine that to be true. Historically Japan have always been wary of immigration and cultural change. But if someone is racist it doesn't matter where they're from. They're a bigot.

MiddleAgedMusings · 10/09/2025 11:12

AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:08

It doesn't. But they have really serious concerns there about immigration and in particualr about the Japanese culture disappearing

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What specific examples do they have of their culture being eroded?
Foreign residents in Japan make up 3% of the population

Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 11:11

AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:08

@Idinnaenah I did not call the Japanese racist. I have japanese family

Re-read what you wrote.
Flagshag away, it’s a free country. But racism is racism in any form and the fact that other countries also have people being racist is neither here nor there.

Bagsintheboot · 10/09/2025 11:11

Everyone is allowed to be proud of their country and to fly the country's flag. If you've been told you can't do this then you've been grossly misinformed.

What you can't do is start spray painting public property or start attaching things to street furniture like lampposts or bridges.

The latter does not render the former untrue.

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AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:08

DiscoBob · 10/09/2025 11:06

Well nationalism and racism often go hand in hand, and can happen in just about any country. It doesn't make it right.

It doesn't. But they have really serious concerns there about immigration and in particualr about the Japanese culture disappearing

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AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:08

@Idinnaenah I did not call the Japanese racist. I have japanese family

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AngryBird6122 · 10/09/2025 11:07

Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 11:04

Racism is racism whoever is being racist, and your the Japanese are racist too argument doesn’t hold much sway with me… I’ll just stick to not being a racist flag shagger if that ok with you.
It’s not like I look at MAGA supporters in Georgia or Texas and think - if it’s alright with them to be racist I’ll do the same.

@Idinnaenah I am not a flag flyer. This was not supposed to be a reform supporter thread or anything! More of a musing and do people realise what's going on

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DiscoBob · 10/09/2025 11:06

Well nationalism and racism often go hand in hand, and can happen in just about any country. It doesn't make it right.

Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 11:04

Racism is racism whoever is being racist, and your the Japanese are racist too argument doesn’t hold much sway with me… I’ll just stick to not being a racist flag shagger if that ok with you.
It’s not like I look at MAGA supporters in Georgia or Texas and think - if it’s alright with them to be racist I’ll do the same.

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