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AIBU to assume that the majority of posters read The Daily Mail or The Telegraph??

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Greysowhat · 10/09/2025 10:14

I relatively new around here but judging from several threads about flags, trans and autistic, people, there seems to be a lot of posters who love seeing the St Georges Cross up everywhere, are anti-trans and wouldn't give much credence to the struggles that autistic people face. Seems to me they must believe everything they read in The Mail or The Telegraph. Or am I being unreasonable?!

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2dogsandabudgie · 10/09/2025 11:47

Even the people on here who claim to hate the Daily Mail read it as they will start a thread about an article and link to the paper, and at the same time apologise for it being the DM. Always makes me laugh.

PennySweeet · 10/09/2025 11:43

So which of those do you read OP?

Underthinker · 10/09/2025 11:30

I read the Guardian for decades, now more the Times & BBC. I have never read the Mail or Telegraph. But you can't always predict someone's opinions from the papers they read.

Mrsmunchofmunchington · 10/09/2025 11:29

Immigration and trans ideology are two separate issues.

It is entirely possible to have a range of views rather than joining the supposed left wing or right wing “club”.

Also, with ALL the media outlets themselves becoming ever more polarised and propaganda driven sensible people read from a range of sources to try and establish facts and make up their own mind.

I read across this range including The Guardian, The Times and The Telegraph.

Fatcatsinspats · 10/09/2025 11:29

I read the Times and Telegraph every day. I dislike the flag people, support the autistic but dislike the trans lobby (not trans people as such) because they have damaged my professional life.

You can’t lump everyone together. I was previously a left wing activist and full time party worker. Now it’s likely I will never vote for a left wing party again because of their attitude to women and children and while I would never vote Tory, I agree with some of their ‘right wing’ views especially in relation to women and children.

HerewardtheSleepy · 10/09/2025 11:25

I seem to find a lot of fellow Guardian readers here.

Newsnow · 10/09/2025 11:24

I read the Times, the Guardian and Private Eye.

DiscoBob · 10/09/2025 11:22

I read Mail online for a joke sometimes, as well as the Sun for the same reasons. Not for credible news. Not read the Telegraph.

I would never buy or pay a pay wall for them though. I might occasionally buy a copy of the Guardian. But very rarely.

SweetBoraeline · 10/09/2025 11:19

Greysowhat · 10/09/2025 10:14

I relatively new around here but judging from several threads about flags, trans and autistic, people, there seems to be a lot of posters who love seeing the St Georges Cross up everywhere, are anti-trans and wouldn't give much credence to the struggles that autistic people face. Seems to me they must believe everything they read in The Mail or The Telegraph. Or am I being unreasonable?!

Wrong, Guardian.

amicisimma · 10/09/2025 11:18

I would imagine that the majority of people who read any paper would read The Guardian or (or, for the more open-minded, and) the Daily Mail for the simple reason that they are fairly easy to access online. The Telegraph and The Times tend to use firewalls and are quite expensive to buy, so I would think fewer people bother.

I'm lucky to have access to free newspapers somewhere I go, so I tend to read The Times for the more public sector viewpoint and The Telegraph for the more wealth-creating sector viewpoint. I can't really be bothered with the tabloid 'the "other lot" are cheating us' style of The Guardian and The Mail, which I find to be more-or-less the same paper, with The Guardian being more left leaning and The Mail being more right. But they both sometimes carry good articles, so I run an eye over them.

I would think that the people who read any paper are outnumbered by those who get their news elsewhere.

NettleandBramble · 10/09/2025 11:08

Yes, everyone on here believes the same things.

I read no papers and all of them. Depending on what is shared that piques my interest that is not behind a pay wall, but I no longer decide whether to read something or not on the basis of which paper it is.

RedRiverShore5 · 10/09/2025 10:54

I read most of the papers on PressReader because it's free, unfortunately The Times is not on there but most of the others are

WhereIsMyJumper · 10/09/2025 10:52

Zimunya · 10/09/2025 10:49

I read the Guardian and the Daily Mail every day - I've found that the truth is usually at a halfway point between the two.

I like this

Octavia64 · 10/09/2025 10:52

Mumsnet has about 8 million users.

Readership of the daily telegraph is estimated to be 734,000

so on that basis alone, no

WhereIsMyJumper · 10/09/2025 10:51

I don’t read either. I am capable of forming my own opinion

Zimunya · 10/09/2025 10:49

I read the Guardian and the Daily Mail every day - I've found that the truth is usually at a halfway point between the two.

PermanentTemporary · 10/09/2025 10:49

I read the Guardian, the Economist, Private Eye, Twitter and listen to Radio 3 news. I’m on Bluesky but its very very boring. I’m a feminist who believes it’s important that women are defined as female in law and that we should stand up against homophobia and the policing/othering of ‘feminine’ coded behaviour in boys and men. I also think it is really obvious why the Mail and the Reformograph publish 3000 stories a month on that stuff. I think putting up flags at the moment is a deliberately aggressive act. I think I’m a completely ordinary MN member/poster.

thebabayaga2025 · 10/09/2025 10:48

This has always been a hard left site, and it's become progressively less progressive and more radicalised far left over time. The fact that you are seeing centrists standing up to be counted even here is a sign of how utterly sick of being shouted down normal, centrist people are. Anybody who is not radicalised far left is called vicious slurs on a regular basis by a very mouthy minority and mumsnetters got away with that for years.

olivehater · 10/09/2025 10:44

Mumsnet is predominantly centre left. The trans/ gender critical thing goes against the grain. This is specific to Mumsnet as it is a cause that the Mumsnet population has taken up with gusto what with it being a feminist site.
The left media have labelled gender critical and trans issues as a right versus left thing which has damaged the feminist cause because it isn’t.

PestoHoliday · 10/09/2025 10:44

Personally I read the Guardian, Observer, Times, BBC, New Statesman and Spectator because I like to hear a range of perspectives.

I won't read the Mail (right wing trash paper) or Sun (on moral grounds, Liverpool family connections) but I'll have a look at most other articles linked to.

Belladog1 · 10/09/2025 10:39

I hold my hand up and declare that I read the Daily Mail online. I don't pay though, so I miss out on loads, but I 'read' it for the celeb stuff.

SeaAndStars · 10/09/2025 10:37

The key reason I'm on MN is because of the enormous range of views represented on here. So many wise, funny and interesting points of view. I think you need to give it more time and read a wide range of threads OP.

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 10/09/2025 10:37

I think those with the strongest opinions shout the loudest.

For example Mumsnet is known as an anti trans hotbed because of the number of threads, but I expect most people take a more nuanced view, such as having no issues with using preferred pronouns but not wanting trans women in women's sports etc.

Same with the immigration topic - lots of people seem very pro or against but I expect most users are somewhere in between.

Those of us with more central views tend not to bother trying to argue with those with strong opinions because we recognise there's no point in arguing with strangers online.

Chickenbone123 · 10/09/2025 10:33

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TelephoneWires · 10/09/2025 10:33

It’s not a hive mind there are lots of different opinions on here.

Having said that, I think the loudest voices are to the left politically. My impression is that more people are against the displaying of the flags then for it on Mumsnet but it depends which threads you read.

There is a lot of discussion about trans issues on the feminist board. I think it’s unfair to say anti-trans. It is well reasoned and logical and has been going on for a long time here. There is a break it down for me thread if you want to understand that point of view rather than just dismiss it as bigoted. Yes, a lot of the old timers are jaded and quite straight in what they will say about this after years of being told that their view should be kept quiet.

There is lots of talk about autism and lots of different experiences - both people who have been diagnosed with or suspect they might have autism themselves and who have children with autism as well as some people who are more sceptical about spectrum and potential over diagnosis.