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Given detention for lateness on tube strike day

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Longingdreamer · 09/09/2025 15:18

My child was given a detention today, despite there being a tube strike in London, which has caused travel chaos. They early but were apparently still late: roads are almost at a standstill it seems.

They get very upset by detentions, due to underlying neuro diversity.

Aibu to think that the school shouldn't give these on a strike day for minor lateness?

They usually give them, even if a child is only 1 minute late, but it seems wicked when it is out of their control.

OP posts:
Nicelynicelyjohnson · 10/09/2025 15:45

Chompingatthebeat · 10/09/2025 15:31

Your age doesnt matter on public transport

Would you say the adults you know have the same levels of general competency as the average 12 year old child?

Ddakji · 10/09/2025 15:33

Welshwabbit · 10/09/2025 14:32

I don't know where you were walking, but I walked from Embankment tube station to New Street Square yesterday (having fortuitously discovered that the Northern Line was running!) and it was rammed on the road; I've never seen it so busy. I crossed the roads between stopped traffic, and this was after 9 a.m.

Not far from Old Street. Back streets but crossing a couple of main-ish roads. It’s usually pretty quiet and it was still quiet! This was at about 8.10 though as I always start early.

Chompingatthebeat · 10/09/2025 15:31

HowamIgoingtocope · 10/09/2025 07:12

You are an adult im presuming not a 12 year old child.

Your age doesnt matter on public transport

Emmz1510 · 10/09/2025 15:17

I think the school should be lenient on this occasion, especially if this affected many students and staff. I wonder if any staff who were late had to do detention? In our society we are often much tougher on our kids than we are on adults…

Baital · 10/09/2025 15:16

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 14:49

Was this the only one available to the Op?

it isn’t local

It is local in London.

And you are lucky if you have much choice. We got our second choice and were very happy...

Local based on usually quite good public transport. When that breaks down - such as a strike - the extent to which it isn't so 'local' becomes obvious.

Needmorelego · 10/09/2025 14:57

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 14:49

Was this the only one available to the Op?

it isn’t local

Welcome to London.
It's the way it is.
Children have to travel crazy distances to go to school - often not out of parental choice.

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 14:49

Comefromaway · 10/09/2025 14:46

We don't usually get a lot of choice. We are told that all state schools can cater for all kinds of SEN.

Was this the only one available to the Op?

it isn’t local

Comefromaway · 10/09/2025 14:46

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 14:45

Well she sounds like she’s in an utterly inappropriate school setting op.

This is year 7, she’s just started?

We don't usually get a lot of choice. We are told that all state schools can cater for all kinds of SEN.

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 14:45

Longingdreamer · 10/09/2025 14:38

Thank you. I have a child with neurodiversity causing anxiety. I mentioned this in the OP. Clearly, a lot of people are not aware of the reality of this.

Well she sounds like she’s in an utterly inappropriate school setting op.

This is year 7, she’s just started?

Longingdreamer · 10/09/2025 14:38

Comefromaway · 10/09/2025 14:23

This would be a completely normal reaction for a neuro diverse child and therefore I am sure OP is acutely aware of these issues.

Thank you. I have a child with neurodiversity causing anxiety. I mentioned this in the OP. Clearly, a lot of people are not aware of the reality of this.

OP posts:
Welshwabbit · 10/09/2025 14:32

Ddakji · 10/09/2025 10:16

Yes, maybe you’re right - over the years I’ve had everything thrown at me so nothing really phases me any more - there’s always a way! I once got booted off a train at Acton Town and trudged off in the snow to the next station, which was closed… all the way until Marble Arch where finally I could get back on a train. But that was back in the 90s where the mentality that you might simply not go into work didn’t exist.

I’m in south east London where there are pretty much no tubes so my journey isn’t impacted at all (obviously we get hit with train strikes instead), and my walk from the station in central London to the office didn’t seem any busier on the roads than usual.

Is all the gridlock outside of the centre?

I don't know where you were walking, but I walked from Embankment tube station to New Street Square yesterday (having fortuitously discovered that the Northern Line was running!) and it was rammed on the road; I've never seen it so busy. I crossed the roads between stopped traffic, and this was after 9 a.m.

MrsClatterbuck · 10/09/2025 14:29

I remember years ago being late to work which was extremely rare. It was due to torrential rain causing floods in and around the area I worked. I lived approx 30 miles away but it was the last 3 to 5 miles that was the problem plus I wasn't totally au fait with the area to know other routes. Turned out our overall boss ended up being late as well so nothing was ever said.

Comefromaway · 10/09/2025 14:23

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 14:14

She is off sick today, likely due to the anxiety caused by yesterday.

If you genuinely suspect your daughter suffered such acute anxiety regarding yesterday’s detention (of which you say lots others had too), that she needs the day after off school to recover - then you have more far serious issues to address OP

Edited

This would be a completely normal reaction for a neuro diverse child and therefore I am sure OP is acutely aware of these issues.

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 14:14

She is off sick today, likely due to the anxiety caused by yesterday.

If you genuinely suspect your daughter suffered such acute anxiety regarding yesterday’s detention (of which you say lots others had too), that she needs the day after off school to recover - then you have more far serious issues to address OP

C8H10N4O2 · 10/09/2025 14:12

FrippEnos · 10/09/2025 13:54

I think that some of the views on here are due to the London centric nature of how transport issues are seen across the country.

Not everyone has a good transport network to rely on.
So when shit like this goes down in London, I think that there is a "suck it up buttercup" attitude in play due to the responses that Londoners often give to others.

Quite probably but also I think it's hard to grasp the size and scale of the impact unless you live in a similar city with similar commuting volumes. It simply wouldn’t be possible without a big mass transit system (which doubtless contributes to the increased commercial investment in cities improving public transit).

FrippEnos · 10/09/2025 13:54

C8H10N4O2 · 10/09/2025 13:45

I wouldn’t bat an eyelid at an hour for a healthy, able bodied adult who is free to go direct from home to work location.

No, not everyone is dropping off kids but most commuters are not battling roads and transport for the lols - they do it because its the only practical means to get to work or get to work combined with other stops. In the current situation those who can walk already do so, even if they elect to drive/bus it other days.

The notion that the millions using the tube into or within London every day could simply walk to work or squeeze into the already maxed out buses and roads is just nonsense. As I said upthread - total closure of the tube network for a week is a safety issue in London.

I think that some of the views on here are due to the London centric nature of how transport issues are seen across the country.

Not everyone has a good transport network to rely on.
So when shit like this goes down in London, I think that there is a "suck it up buttercup" attitude in play due to the responses that Londoners often give to others.

C8H10N4O2 · 10/09/2025 13:45

Ddakji · 10/09/2025 13:00

Depends what you call “theoretical walking distance”. An hour seems fine to me, for example. DH used to occasional walk to work, took him an hour and 15 mins. Wouldn’t do it every day, by occasionally - why not? He’s perfectly capable.

Not everyone is dropping kids off at schools.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelid at an hour for a healthy, able bodied adult who is free to go direct from home to work location.

No, not everyone is dropping off kids but most commuters are not battling roads and transport for the lols - they do it because its the only practical means to get to work or get to work combined with other stops. In the current situation those who can walk already do so, even if they elect to drive/bus it other days.

The notion that the millions using the tube into or within London every day could simply walk to work or squeeze into the already maxed out buses and roads is just nonsense. As I said upthread - total closure of the tube network for a week is a safety issue in London.

Ddakji · 10/09/2025 13:00

C8H10N4O2 · 10/09/2025 10:56

Obviously walking isn’t an option for everyone but I bet it is for quite a few who got in their cars

Based on what? I’m in London and I know precisely one person who lives within theoretical walking distance of work and they have children to drop off in two different locations on the way to work.

Its been insane, anybody lucky enough to be able to walk to work will have done so simply because of the traffic. Its been amongst the worst transport problems I’ve ever seen in London, including during the complete power outage (because that only lasted 24 hours). Walking and buses simply cannot absorb the millions of commuters.

There is a serious safety issue for Londoners at this level of travel disruption.

Depends what you call “theoretical walking distance”. An hour seems fine to me, for example. DH used to occasional walk to work, took him an hour and 15 mins. Wouldn’t do it every day, by occasionally - why not? He’s perfectly capable.

Not everyone is dropping kids off at schools.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/09/2025 12:57

user1471516498 · 10/09/2025 12:11

I think that all students have to accept that they will get detentions for things outwith their control several times during their school careers. My son got a detention in his first week of term because the level crossing in the village was stuck closed, so the bus couldn't get out. Everybody from his village got the detention.
He is aware that he could get a lift into town with me, but it would mean getting there for 7.30 and waiting outside the school until it opens at 8.
I have told him that if he chooses to get the school bus then he is choosing the consequences if the bus is cancelled. Whether he thinks arriving 1hr 15 minutes early is more hassle than a potential detention is up to him.

Absolutely ludicrous. Our school manages to take note of issues with the designated school transport, why is it so hard?

Goldbar · 10/09/2025 12:37

user1471516498 · 10/09/2025 12:11

I think that all students have to accept that they will get detentions for things outwith their control several times during their school careers. My son got a detention in his first week of term because the level crossing in the village was stuck closed, so the bus couldn't get out. Everybody from his village got the detention.
He is aware that he could get a lift into town with me, but it would mean getting there for 7.30 and waiting outside the school until it opens at 8.
I have told him that if he chooses to get the school bus then he is choosing the consequences if the bus is cancelled. Whether he thinks arriving 1hr 15 minutes early is more hassle than a potential detention is up to him.

It is absolutely bizarre to me that people are ok with their kids being treated this way and view it as "character forming".

Caerulea · 10/09/2025 12:30

user1471516498 · 10/09/2025 12:11

I think that all students have to accept that they will get detentions for things outwith their control several times during their school careers. My son got a detention in his first week of term because the level crossing in the village was stuck closed, so the bus couldn't get out. Everybody from his village got the detention.
He is aware that he could get a lift into town with me, but it would mean getting there for 7.30 and waiting outside the school until it opens at 8.
I have told him that if he chooses to get the school bus then he is choosing the consequences if the bus is cancelled. Whether he thinks arriving 1hr 15 minutes early is more hassle than a potential detention is up to him.

Why are you teaching them that this is acceptable? I genuinely do not understand cos it's not acceptable to treat anyone this way, let alone kids.

It's one thing to learn consequences for your actions you've control over, quite another to be punished for things you have absolutely NO control over.

What exactly is it teaching them?

Idinnaenah · 10/09/2025 12:15

I think your DC will have to suck it up, and next time leave even earlier.

user1471516498 · 10/09/2025 12:11

Kaybee50 · 09/09/2025 15:51

I’d be cross about this. My colleagues who work in our London office have been allowed to wfh during strike days. I would email school and let them know how your child left home early but they were late because of something that was beyond the their control. I’m sure there were school staff that were late too.

I think that all students have to accept that they will get detentions for things outwith their control several times during their school careers. My son got a detention in his first week of term because the level crossing in the village was stuck closed, so the bus couldn't get out. Everybody from his village got the detention.
He is aware that he could get a lift into town with me, but it would mean getting there for 7.30 and waiting outside the school until it opens at 8.
I have told him that if he chooses to get the school bus then he is choosing the consequences if the bus is cancelled. Whether he thinks arriving 1hr 15 minutes early is more hassle than a potential detention is up to him.

C8H10N4O2 · 10/09/2025 12:10

RisingSunn · 10/09/2025 11:42

Well of course - but everyone is leaving an hour earlier/using alternative so it’s just chaos.

And the fact that however many routes you know, they are all screwed up at this level of disruption.

We are not talking about leaves on one of the tracks here which alone cause chaos. Its the absence of the primary transport route for millions of people from in and out of London and it runs at capacity.

The buses and roads already run near to capacity at peak times and simply don’t have the extra capacity to absorb anything close to those numbers of people.

Its like saying put 50 people into a mini - it simply isn’t. possible.

RisingSunn · 10/09/2025 11:42

Ddakji · 10/09/2025 08:41

The reality is that if you live in London you need to know how to get to your destination via different routes and get creative, because things like this are not uncommon. And kids who live here need to realise this and also realise that there’s not always leeway for them to be late and if that means getting going at least an hour earlier, so be it.

Well of course - but everyone is leaving an hour earlier/using alternative so it’s just chaos.

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