Now the Australians are protesting

It was only 14 years after Anita Cobby, not 4.

This is quite misleading and I don't know if it is deliberate or not.

Targeting of the Sikh community is not what the post was about. Amar Singh doesn't even make that claim. The Indian community as a whole was singled out prior to the 'protests' by the racists running the show

The recent protest in Bondi was a clash between Pro-Palestine and Pro-Israel counter protesters. Not a bunch of surfers reacting 🙄

The Cronulla Race Riots were very much racially motivated. Again, what's with the 'surfers'? The riots did not kick of because some Aussie surfers were sticking up for women 🙄
https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/cronulla-race-riots

The gang rapes in 2000 carried out by a gang of Lebanese youths were so disturbing there are no words. It definitely played a part in what led up to the Cronulla race riots. It was only 4 years after Anita Cobby, one of the most horrific crimes ever which strangely did not contribute to violence and rioting in the community. I do not understand your "People are still angry about this because the attacks were racially motivated" Are they more palatable if they are not racially motivated? People need to be angry about ALL attacks on women

I'm not even going to dignify the gossip about the tragic event that killed a young boy and injured 4 others. The woman had her own child in the car FFS.
A man with a pretty ordinary Aus sounding name actually DID deliberately drive his car into a child care centre recently and hardly got any coverage outside of the state. There have been a few cars driven into schools/child care centres, not that you'd know it 🙄

When I see posts like these, I can understand how people get sucked into the world of the racist protestors. Much like those who immerse themselves in the conspiracy theory cults 🤷‍♀️

Do you know any of your ancestors who directly suffered at the hands of the Romans or Vikings?

My husband is almost 89. He knew his grandfather who was the first generation in his family born a free man. He was born on the plantation where his family had been slaves. We can look at the stock books from that plantation and see the records of his family because they were recorded as stock like the horses and pigs. Not quite the same is it.

With all due respect, when it comes to the British occupation and oppression of Ireland, it absolutely was a case of goodies vs baddies. Ireland did nothing to warrant the occupation, theft and pillaging of their land and people.

Or reading what saviours, with a complex, would like to believe.

I think that this is at the heart of it. Indians are perceived to ignore diversity recruitment laws and are accused of favouring nepotism, once they are in a position to do so.

No, compensation for slavery!

Yes, and tens of thousands of Irish people immigrated ILLEGALLY. It's an inconvenient truth but it is the truth. How do I know? I was one of them! Lived in the US on a false social security number for years as did all of my Irish friends and family. Read about the Donnelly visa programme that was specifically established (due to political pressure) to legitimise the tens of thousands of illegal Irish immigrants in the US in the 1990s. And we were not fleeing war, persecution, or famine. We were economic migrants - the exact type of migrants that are being demonised now.

And I can assume you have a history degree? You accuse me of being ignorant, but if you really know your history, you will recognise that it is much more nuanced than goodies versus baddies. You are reiterating the line that is very fashionable at the moment of the British being the worst people ever. This is simply not the case. Of course there were dark times in our history but this is so for every country in the world. The British have also been a force for good throughout the centuries. We cannot judge the past by present sensibilities but what we should and must do is to learn from history to ensure that we do not repeat the mistakes of the past.

And I can assume you have a history degree? You accuse me of being ignorant, but if you really know your history, you will recognise that it is much more nuanced than goodies versus baddies. You are reiterating the line that is very fashionable at the moment of the British being the worst people ever. This is simply not the case. Of course there were dark times in our history but this is so for every country in the world. The British have also been a force for good throughout the centuries. We cannot judge the past by present sensibilities but what we should and must do is to learn from history to ensure that we do not repeat the mistakes of the past.

There is so much ignorance with this post that I despair. Read more than O level history before telling people not to ‘harp on’. You are showing up how little knowledge you have.

It happened nearly two hundred years ago. It was terrible but the Irish are not the only people who have ever suffered but we would be forgiven for thinking it happened last week by the number of times it is brought up. Most ordinary British people were equally oppressed, as I pointed out. I was not responsible and will not apologise for something I had nothing to do with. Many British people have emigrated - some of the earliest emigrées to Australia were British people who were transported there for crimes such as stealing a loaf of bread because they were starving and had no money. It happened, it shouldn't have happened but it did and we don't keep harping on it.

‘Not this again’?

Really?

The Irish were starved by the British but YOU think the Irish need to get over it???

Oh and the Irish need to remember not to bring it up in a thread about emigration?

I don’t think so.

I think that this is at the heart of it. Indians are perceived to ignore diversity recruitment laws and are accused of favouring nepotism, once they are in a position to do so.

From what I’ve read online my understanding is that Indian people are being targeted in Australia (and Canada) because there’s a belief that in recent years they have dominated/ received preference in regard to immigration into those countries.

There’s also a belief that on top of tech jobs being offshored to India, Indians are also moving to the West to take up jobs in large numbers.

I have also read that there is sentiment among some Australians and Canadian’s that once an Indian national gets a senior position/becomes a hiring manager they implement racist hiring practices to hire other Indians over others.

These are not my opinions, I don’t live in those countries but it’s stuff I’ve seen online. It looks like this has been bubbling under the surface for a while.

I’m an Australian living in Australia and I reject being called racist. I want to try and explain what has been going on for the past 25 years in this country to give it some context.

I’m not going to sugar coat it. There are race issues in Australia.

Currently we have mass migration from countries/demographics that don’t assimilate and it causes problems in our community. People are angry at the government because we are in a housing crisis and don’t have the infrastructure to cope with a massive influx of people into our communities. We have people living in tents and cars in the suburbs. It’s pretty bad right now and people are angry at the government.

I’m going to be very blunt. The Sikh community has been target for a long time because the people attacking them confuse them with Muslims. It keeps happening because the people targeting them are really dim. I’m friends with Sikh’s and there isn’t an issue with Sikhs not being wanted in the community. There is a history of Sikh’s stepping up when there is a crisis in the community and they are known to help people in the community by giving charity. The Sikh’s are very much a valued part of our community.

Australia has had issues with terrorism and serious assaults on women. A lot of people are angry.

Recently there was an incident in Bondi where pro-Palestinian demonstrators decided to stage a demonstration …Bondi has a large Jewish population that live there so people believe it was a deliberate attempt to spark race riots - knowing the surfers in that community would react and they did react. But two female coppers diffused the situation and it didn’t escalate on this occasion.

In 2005 there were riots which started from an incident at Cronulla beach in Sydney after middle eastern men were harassing women at the beach over how they were dressed. Lifesavers tried to shut it down and were unsuccessful and the surfers didn’t take too kindly to women being harassed so there were race riots. If you Google it you will read that the cause of the race riots were Islamophobia - but that isn’t entirely true. The men on the beach the day the riots kicked off were sticking up for women.

In 2000 there were a series gang rapes in Sydney committed by Muslims (the leader was Lebanese). These were violent and degrading and the victims were women and young girls (the youngest was 14). The leader got 31 years. People are still angry about this because the attacks were racially motivated.

Most recently a woman from Iraq killed a young boy with her car. He was sitting inside the school grounds. She drove over a median strip, mounted a curb and went through a fence. She should have received jail time - but she was only charged with a lower offence - specifically careless driving. Many people believe she should have been charged with manslaughter or dangerous driving causing death but she was only charged with careless driving and got a fine. So people are upset about that. Many people believe she deliberately drove into the school after a meeting with the Principal. She said she was upset over that meeting but she was observed smiling and happy immediately after.

Australians are angry. They don’t like what is happening in our communities.

There’s other things going on in our communities (violent home invasions occurring in Melbourne by immigrants) but I just wanted to give some context on why the Sikhs were targeted - given that this was what the post was about.

To be absolutely clear I don’t condone violence or acts of aggression at all. It is important to understand context and why many Australian’s are angry right now.

Im not doing that. I agree with you. No community should be attacked.

It’s not fair to attack ANY community.

As a British Asian, I have defended my fellow Asians from racism and aggression from white people whatever their religion, whether Muslim, Sikh or Hindu.

Please don’t try and play this divide and conquer game.

It is actually not. I understand the argument of mass immigration and how it has people worrying.

What i do not like is when racists and yes racists, use the argument to push their own agendas.
Seeing all your posts on this thread alone, never mind your other posts show me which of the 2 you are.
I agree a discussion is needed about mass immigration and i do not shut anyone down who has genuine concerns especially since i also share some of their concerns.
I do usually move on from your posts but i did not agree with your Muslim no go areas. Because is that not what everyone does.
Do other races not do the same, stick to their own areas etc? There are plenty of white “no go areas” where i would not probably feel safe walking around by myself as a Muslim woman.
I personally do not call them no go areas as if i wanted to go then i would be able to but i just would feel not so safe etc.

This thread appears to be about Aussie bashing. Not British bashing.

Which countries deny citizenship on the grounds of race?

Calling racism - It's just to shut people down. If you don't like my posts, move on.

You think black people should be paying compensation to slave owners.

The world is truly crazy.