Now the Australians are protesting

As an Australian who was horrified by the marches I find the generalisations towards all Australians in this thread distressing and upsetting.

Edit: Sorry, did not mean to do this as a reply to you.

I’ve never heard it used here. Why laugh?

As a point of interest, up until about about 25-30 years ago Australians thought of themselves as British. A good number of older people would talk about ‘The Home Country’, although they’d never been there. The accents of news announcers on TV and radio were distinctly more British than Australian.

There does seem to be a bit of a nternational movement against Indians at the moment actually - US, Canada, Australia. Could be different localised issues or something more driven. I don't recall it before the Indian Pakistan skirmishes but no idea if it's related.

Australia is not well known as a racist country at all. We are one of the most successfully multi-ethnic populations on the planet, as you would expect from a country that has long had a very heavy reliance on migrant intake from many quarters.

Yes, there's a long and ongoing problem with incorporating the indigenous population in ways that recognises adequate autonomy, land and resources rights and self-determination, while adequately compensating for the horrors of the British colonial past and its consequences.

Those problems should not be underplayed, but they're part of a much bigger global legacy of misery and misfortune caused by the racist invasions and exploitations of the British Empire.

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The Indian community are not what the majority are protesting about. The majority are protesting about IPAS centres.

The recent attacks on Indian people are taking place in deprived areas by scumbags. Irish people do not condone these attacks. There is media coverage highlighting them, the Indian community are getting airtime.
These scumbags, very often teenagers, target different people all the time. They attacked a policeman yesterday.

If you heard that term it was likely coming from one of the million odd UK born people living in Australia who brought it along with them - it's not a traditional Australian slur at all

A lot of the people those Irish people are protesting, and the Indians bring attacked are legal migrants.

I am not sure they are more acute. I think Australia has a stronger economy and when things are going great it masks racist attitudes.

Personally I found the UK and Oz to be much of a muchness in terms of racism except Australia tries to whitewash / absolve itself by blaming former rulers for current attitudes.

As much as I don’t really want to engage with you, this has me intrigued. You actually think there is no variety in liberalism?

I think you are not seeing the difference in legal v illegal immigration.

As for why so many Irish emigrated? Have you forgotten the Irish people’s food was taken from them to export to the UK by resulting in famine like consequences for the Irish population?

But Australia is well.known as a racist country and it's quite galling and telling that so many Australians are coming on here saying it isnt. You've got a bloody terrible reputation for your treatment of indigenous people. And its laughable you're on here saying you haven't. What a bloody joke.

I don’t take it personally at all that’s the point. What you do there has nothing to do with us.

Don't take it so personally. 😅

Obviously Australian racism was an important aspect of our British heritage, and one which we've largely (but not entirely) outgrown. And doubtless there are a few racist attitudes amongst some of the more recent non-British migrants, but those attitudes too are equally being discouraged.

The same is true of modern Britain - shaking off the common cultural attitudes of the past is an ongoing struggle. I merely suggest that your problems in that regard are clearly somewhat more acute than ours.

As a Melbornian I’d love to know where you had these experiences.

Agreed - its very, very strange. It in noe way aligns with what I've experienced in Melbourne.

I would have thought that nearer to 70-75% of British people have Irish ancestry somewhere in their genes.

I lived in Melbourne for 6 years and have a good few examples which could back up your own experiences in Sydney.

I will admit the pivot to anti Indian/Chinese marches in Oz did take me by surprise especially in Melbourne.

The usual hatred is aimed at the Sudanese community, specifically young Sudanese men. That’s who the targets were of the recent white supremacist demos in Melbourne. The pivot to Indians / Chinese is weird.

Not putting aside racism or xenophobia ... most people tolerate / welcome immigration & migration when they themselves feel well off and comfortable. When the majority of people feel hard done by they look at migrants as 'taking' from them...
When people feel like they are paying into a system more than they are getting back... this causes an issue.

Your earlier posts suggest otherwise. Whatever you see as not great in Australia really has zero to do with us.

And vice versa, I'm fine with that. Just don't use the British as an excuse for what you don't like atm. It's all with you.

Me and DH are not long back from a holiday in Australia. Our daughter and husband emigrated there from the UK a few years ago. We stayed in Melbourne and Sydney, and a few places in between (we did a road trip). We did not experience any racism whatsoever. Everyone was so friendly, no matter what race they were, and every place we visited was gorgeous. The weather was amazing, the streets were clean, the bars and restaurants were glorious. Honestly, it felt like Utopia to us. I'd live there in a heart beat. The UK, especially the cities like London & Birmingham are a disgrace by comparison, with rubbish all over the place, graffiti, bins not being emptied, soaring crime rates etc.

We have done, thanks.

I wish you the same sort of progress, but the UK opinion polls are looking quite dismal, with Reform still well ahead of the other parties:

Reform still lead in survey

Yes they were here first - shame the UK came along and wholesale slaughtered so many and set in train the deep seated issues many people are trying to fix. Its not a simple problem - the scars run deep. But the average Australian is no more responsible for these issues than the UK descendants of the UK invaders.