To think promiscuous men should be shamed more?

Still harping on and sounded increasingly angry at a person who wrote perfectly calm words you didn't like. ¯\(ツ)/¯ Projection of the first order. ¯\(ツ)/¯

Cute picture. Are you 12?!

I’m not bothered what your opinion is, actually. Nobody is saying you need to find ‘slutty men’ attractive. Or that you need to like promiscuity.

Im just intrigued by your fairly aggressive delivery!

No she doesn’t. She just isn’t buying into casual sex thing. And she’s being condemned for it. Or even <gasps> shamed.

No, I definitely don't :)

You're a bit obsessed with banging on at people who have opinions you don't like though ¯\(ツ)/¯

You just seem oddly angry about people who like to have sex with lots of different people…

You just seem oddly angry about people who like to have sex with lots of different people…

I feel like you wrote your response stamping your feet and projected heavily 😅

Raging? That's called projection 😁

I've always found slutty men gross and completely unattractive, but I don't much care what they do, as they don't directly impacted me. I avoided dating any of them, so was not an issue. I once was chatting to a guy on a dating site and he revealed his body count and I told him I was no longer interested, politely. He insisted on me telling him why and then he was so pissed off 😆

I think most women find slutty men gross and unattractive actually, the whole greasy haired lothario trope being sexy to women seems to come from other men, I've never spoken to a woman who thinks a higher chance of STDs and treating women's bodies like impersonal holes for fluids is a good thing.

Also, slutty men are far more likely to screw around once they are in a relationship than normal men.

I have no problem at all using the word slutty and will always continue to use it if I feel the urge. It's perfect for a certain type of person. Wouldn't say it to someone's face unless they tried calling me vanilla, prudish etc - all the ways slutty people try to shame normal people 😅

I love how mumsnetters try all the time to police words that people simply do use in normal conversations. Won't work on me, I'm afraid.

Some people seem to be able to treat bodies as a set of orifices for fluids, but we ARE our bodies, and I have no interest at all in someone who can lose count of the number of partners they have had and personally have the opinion that if you're a shagger you have a lot less personal respect for yourself than those who care about who they are sticking their bits into.

And finally, slutty men are at a higher risk of being deadbeat dads or at the very least having extra kids strewn around in their wake.

So there's just no reason women (as a group) would have evolved to find slutty men attractive - higher risk of diseases, higher risk of cheating, higher risk of having to share limited resources and extra kids turning up.

So yeah, I don't think women are the ones pushing the trope.

Can't post links but you can look for
"The State of Affairs" (IFS, 2019): 20% of men with 10+ partners cheat vs. 10% with fewer.
"Personality, Marital Satisfaction, and Probability of Marital Infidelity" (Hughes & Gallup, 2003): Promiscuity correlates with cheating (r=0.80).
Sexual Behavior and STD Prevalence" (CDC, 2015): Men with 5+ female partners yearly have 15% chlamydia prevalence vs. 3% for monogamous men.
"High-Risk Sexual Behavior in Men" (Journal of Sexual Research, 2017): 25% of promiscuous heterosexual men had STDs (e.g., gonorrhea, syphilis).
"STI Trends in Heterosexual Men" (PubMed, 2020): Multiple partners increase syphilis risk (7.5/100 person-years).

Yep, that's exactly it :D I saw through their pretence at reasonableness, they were raging because I pointed out that normal people don't find sluttyness attractive, and they were desperate to try to draw me in to a pointless, burbling argument.

I shut them down, hard, but with perfectly calm, reasonable and sensible words and they reacted by stamping their feet and name calling and then projecting their own instability and rage onto me 😅

Why? Because you don’t agree with them?

I feel like you wrote this post stamping your feet 😂

Why? Because you don’t agree with them?

Love this.

I also dislike players immensely. Total lack of respect for people. Just a hole to fill.

As many as I choose. You don't get to decide my opinions for me you don't get to interrogate me, you don't get any input at all on anything I think. Not ever.

I give absolutely zero fucks about your attempts to shame me and others for holding opinions that trigger you.

Ciao :)

As many as I choose. You don't get to decide my opinions for me you don't get to interrogate me, you don't get any input at all on anything I think. Not ever.

I give absolutely zero fucks about your attempts to shame me and others for holding opinions that trigger you.

Ciao :)

As many as I choose. You don't get to decide my opinions for me you don't get to interrogate me, you don't get any input at all on anything I think. Not ever.

I give absolutely zero fucks about your attempts to shame me and others for holding opinions that trigger you.

Ciao :)

How many sexual partners does someone need to have had for you to refer to them as slutty as opposed to what you class as normal?

And so the pendulum swings back and forth. Is there a synthesis that offers a better sum total of 'happiness'? Those whose 'choice environments' were more restrictive and Conservative than native liberals do tend to fare far better when they are presented with 'freedom', the residue of their upbringing gives them more balance than the full pelt free for all

Sex is one of the most natural things in the world...

Consent isn't a violation

Regretting something doesn't make it grim

Bring in the Inquisition(!)

Yes, in theory if everyone subscribed to one (Catholic, in this case) ideology and happily acted totally in accordance with it then life would be wonderful. Ironically, what shreds this theory when it comes to putting it into practice is actual human nature.

The freedom to make your own choices does not mean you’re guaranteed to be happy with the outcome of those choices, or not regret them. There is no ideology practiced on earth that is free from human collateral and suffering. There is always a price to pay, and I would always choose to pay the price for freedom than I would choose to pay that of the alternative (incidentally, my family lived under Communism, so my ‘choice environment’ is most definitely one that values the rights of the individual to make choices for themselves).