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Strange interaction at work and no one else sees the issue?

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Teachnomore · 08/09/2025 21:48

This happened today and I need to share. I manage a team of 12 and don’t work Friday’s. I came in today to an email from my senior/deputy about something which happened between two colleagues on Friday - without getting into details, there was an argument in front of the team and it was unprofessional.

I booked time in with each individual separately today to discuss what happened.

When I walked into the meeting room with one of the colleagues (male), he rushed up to the table, pretended to bend over and said let’s get this over with. Then stopped, pretended to take his belt off and laughed hysterically. I just told him to sit down and he said he thought what he suggested would be a quicker punishment, again laughing.

Now, am I being a bit of a killjoy here or is that really inappropriate? I told my manager what happened, who basically shrugged his shoulders and said that is just what that colleague is like. My DP found it hilarious when I told him and thinks I’ve had a sense of humour failure..

I just found it awkward and a bit rude given the circumstances.

OP posts:
Marcipix · 09/09/2025 00:18

I m not surprised that you were completely taken aback.
However, everyone telling you to escalate to HR is correct.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:18

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:11

No, it was his (and, apparently, your) idea of a joke, but it was entirely inappropriate in the circumstances. He had been invited to the meeting to discuss his unprofessional behaviour last Friday, so he knew it was a serious meeting, but he behaved appallingly. He attempted to minimise his involvement in the previous week's argument with his colleague and was utterly disrespectful to OP - you can guarantee he wouldn't have pulled that stunt if his manager had been male! I hope he finds the disciplinary action taken against him equally 'hilarious'. 🙄

He was probably embarrassed and needed to break the ice/ distract from the fact he'd done something wrong by arguing. He probably would still have done it if it was a male manager. It wasnt sexuel.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:17

OneTealMentor · 09/09/2025 00:12

Not sex, he meant hit him with the belt

No, @DramaLlamacchiato meant "sex" as in the protected characteristic. This moron treated OP differently because she's a woman - there's no way he'd have pulled that stunt if his manager had been male.

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:15

Teachnomore · 08/09/2025 21:48

This happened today and I need to share. I manage a team of 12 and don’t work Friday’s. I came in today to an email from my senior/deputy about something which happened between two colleagues on Friday - without getting into details, there was an argument in front of the team and it was unprofessional.

I booked time in with each individual separately today to discuss what happened.

When I walked into the meeting room with one of the colleagues (male), he rushed up to the table, pretended to bend over and said let’s get this over with. Then stopped, pretended to take his belt off and laughed hysterically. I just told him to sit down and he said he thought what he suggested would be a quicker punishment, again laughing.

Now, am I being a bit of a killjoy here or is that really inappropriate? I told my manager what happened, who basically shrugged his shoulders and said that is just what that colleague is like. My DP found it hilarious when I told him and thinks I’ve had a sense of humour failure..

I just found it awkward and a bit rude given the circumstances.

He was probably embarrassed and needed to break the ice/ distract from the fact he'd done something wrong by arguing.

OneTealMentor · 09/09/2025 00:12

DramaLlamacchiato · 08/09/2025 22:29

Harassment related to sex.

Not acceptable

Not sex, he meant hit him with the belt

5128gap · 09/09/2025 00:12

user1478188491 · 08/09/2025 23:50

Lighten up it was a joke, people can’t even have a laugh nowadays without people
taking offence 🙄

Edited

No indeed. Now we have more robust laws to protect us from sexual harassment you really can't 'have a laugh' if that requires you to sexual harass your female colleagues. All your bleating at women to lighten up will be completely in vain, so the sensible thing to do if you want to keep your job is to show some respect, and leave the 'jokes' to those who can be funny without falling foul of equalities legislation.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:11

user1478188491 · 08/09/2025 23:50

Lighten up it was a joke, people can’t even have a laugh nowadays without people
taking offence 🙄

Edited

No, it was his (and, apparently, your) idea of a joke, but it was entirely inappropriate in the circumstances. He had been invited to the meeting to discuss his unprofessional behaviour last Friday, so he knew it was a serious meeting, but he behaved appallingly. He attempted to minimise his involvement in the previous week's argument with his colleague and was utterly disrespectful to OP - you can guarantee he wouldn't have pulled that stunt if his manager had been male! I hope he finds the disciplinary action taken against him equally 'hilarious'. 🙄

DoYouReally · 09/09/2025 00:07

Sorry you've had such a shit day. First this fool and then your husband (who doesn't sound great tbf).

I would involve HR.

He was called into to discuss one inappropriate action and decided to create another one.

He's too stupid to be employed much longer.

5128gap · 09/09/2025 00:06

Your staff member made a power grab by sexualising the situation. He took control of the meeting hoping to wrong foot you, and showed you he thinks your authority over him is a joke. I'd take this incredibly seriously because this speaks volumes about his level of respect for you. Your male manager and husband, being men, will not have experienced the way some male subordinates use these techniques to belittle their female seniors. If he was my staff member he'd be finding out what being disciplined in the work place really meant.

Someone2025 · 09/09/2025 00:06

Teachnomore · 08/09/2025 21:48

This happened today and I need to share. I manage a team of 12 and don’t work Friday’s. I came in today to an email from my senior/deputy about something which happened between two colleagues on Friday - without getting into details, there was an argument in front of the team and it was unprofessional.

I booked time in with each individual separately today to discuss what happened.

When I walked into the meeting room with one of the colleagues (male), he rushed up to the table, pretended to bend over and said let’s get this over with. Then stopped, pretended to take his belt off and laughed hysterically. I just told him to sit down and he said he thought what he suggested would be a quicker punishment, again laughing.

Now, am I being a bit of a killjoy here or is that really inappropriate? I told my manager what happened, who basically shrugged his shoulders and said that is just what that colleague is like. My DP found it hilarious when I told him and thinks I’ve had a sense of humour failure..

I just found it awkward and a bit rude given the circumstances.

He sounds like a complete asshole who has no respect for authority, especially a woman in a position of authority, he would never have said that to a man

Also he was trying to make light of the issue so I’m assuming he was he instigator / main offender?…….he sounds unprofessional and likely impossible to manage…..I would personally go to HR and ask them to deal with him, I would also try and get rid of him/ get him off my team

Hazelforever · 09/09/2025 00:06

That sounds like a typical male sense of humour. But it's wrong place wrong time and inappropriate at work. I'd feel embarrassed and wouldn't know what to say.

Ratafia · 09/09/2025 00:04

What was the outcome in relation to the argument - are the participants getting any sort of sanction for that, e.g. a formal warning? And did this man appear to take that seriously, or not? If he was still laughing and giggling, I would be going up to the next level of sanction.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:01

Teachnomore · 08/09/2025 22:59

He has been there 12 years, longer than most of the team including myself.

Ah, he's one of the "untouchables" - or thinks he is ... Prove him wrong OP.

AngelicKaty · 08/09/2025 23:59

@Teachnomore YANBU. It was childish, rude, inappropriate, disrespectful and not remotely funny. It was also an attempt to minimise and distract from this colleague's involvement in the argument on Friday. I would involve HR to run a disciplinary against him. He needs to learn and grow up - fast - if he wants to keep his job.

pizzaHeart · 08/09/2025 23:59

Meem321 · 08/09/2025 21:53

Would be have behaved in the same way had his manager been male?

No.

Inappropriate.
Unprofessional.
Misogynistic.

I would be contacting HR to discuss and I wouldn't let it go.

This ^

Jeschara · 08/09/2025 23:58

Disgusting and inappropriate. He is a misogynistic pig.
I think his behaviour, and remarks in that meeting should be escalated. He needs to learn this is not acceptable.

PrettyPickle · 08/09/2025 23:57

Some people are embarrassed for being in a potential disciplinary meeting and try to take the pressure out of a situation by making jokes - this one was badly misjudged and inappropriate. Its either that or he thinks being your friend, adding cheeky humour will make you smile and go softer on him.

Either way, you can't accept it, at the very least he needs to know its very inappropriate. You can perhaps make a joke of that nature to friends outside of the formal process but in that setting, its not appropriate and minimises the original issue.

Homegrownberries · 08/09/2025 23:51

"I told my manager what happened, who basically shrugged his shoulders and said that is just what that colleague is like."

I think it's fair to go back to your manager and ask if an employee has ever bent over for a spanking from him. He's shrugging off this behaviour because, as a man, he's never been on the receiving end of it. It only effects women. This is an issue for HR. Your manager needs to be sent on a training course and the other employee needs a formal warning.

user1478188491 · 08/09/2025 23:50

Lighten up it was a joke, people can’t even have a laugh nowadays without people
taking offence 🙄

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 08/09/2025 23:38

stonebrambleboy · 08/09/2025 22:17

I'm more concerned about your DP's reaction.

Agreed. Colleague is way out of order but so is husband's reaction.

Modai · 08/09/2025 23:33

stonebrambleboy · 08/09/2025 22:17

I'm more concerned about your DP's reaction.

Well, yes, equally concerned, for me. Your DP really found it 'hilarious?' I wouldn't be okay with that.

Blondiney · 08/09/2025 23:27

I would’ve cringed myself inside out. What an arsehole!

CarpetKnees · 08/09/2025 23:22

Sound like something David Brent would say / do in 'The Office' which, in itself was written to highlight completely inappropriate behaviour nearly 25 years ago.

It is a shame you didn't deal with it at the time, but this should not be 'let go'.

He should be. But potentially there is a longer process for dismissal.

It needs to go to your HR.

It is so completely inappropriate in any circumstance, but for him to think it was the best way to approach a meeting called to discuss his inappropriate behaviour in the office in the first place beggars belief.

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · 08/09/2025 23:17

It's not funny. It's aggressive and disrespectful

k1233 · 08/09/2025 23:16

Oh. I totally misread that. I thought he was implying sex not a spanking. I would have reacted very badly.

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