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Strange interaction at work and no one else sees the issue?

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Teachnomore · 08/09/2025 21:48

This happened today and I need to share. I manage a team of 12 and don’t work Friday’s. I came in today to an email from my senior/deputy about something which happened between two colleagues on Friday - without getting into details, there was an argument in front of the team and it was unprofessional.

I booked time in with each individual separately today to discuss what happened.

When I walked into the meeting room with one of the colleagues (male), he rushed up to the table, pretended to bend over and said let’s get this over with. Then stopped, pretended to take his belt off and laughed hysterically. I just told him to sit down and he said he thought what he suggested would be a quicker punishment, again laughing.

Now, am I being a bit of a killjoy here or is that really inappropriate? I told my manager what happened, who basically shrugged his shoulders and said that is just what that colleague is like. My DP found it hilarious when I told him and thinks I’ve had a sense of humour failure..

I just found it awkward and a bit rude given the circumstances.

OP posts:
TwinklyWasp · 09/09/2025 05:18

I think others are overreacting. For one, it doesn't seem like sexual harassment- it sounds like it didn't come across in this way.? It's just sounds a bit odd and like an over confidant joke. Humans are odd and irrational a lot of the time I would ask whether it is a pattern or just a one off. If there is a pattern then maybe something to discuss with him. Is his work ok?

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 09/09/2025 05:16

So, man who behaves unprofessionally in the office on Friday, also behaves inappropriately on following Monday.

As a pp said he probably was feeling awkward and trying to take the edge off with humour. But it failed and was even more inappropriate than what he was there for.

berightorbehappy · 09/09/2025 05:06

Document every single bit of this and be ready to refer to HR if ANYTHING like this happens again ! . Your manager is skating on thin ice if he/she hasn’t taken action on your report . Is it a small firm ? Is it possible you can insist on another manager with you for future interviews ?

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 03:38

DiaryofaProvincialLady · 09/09/2025 03:23

I know right, its baffling the lack of basic biology knowledge on here - he wasn't suggesting that OP fucks him from behind as he's bent over a table 🙄

I'm afraid, just like OneTealMentor, you've misunderstood what DramaLlamacchiato posted, which was "Harassment related to sex. Not acceptable." They meant "sex" as in the protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010, as this employee treated OP differently because she's a woman - there's no way he'd have pulled that stunt if his manager had been male. DramaLlamacchiato did not mean they thought the idiot employee was inviting his female manager to have sex with him.

DiaryofaProvincialLady · 09/09/2025 03:23

OneTealMentor · 09/09/2025 00:12

Not sex, he meant hit him with the belt

I know right, its baffling the lack of basic biology knowledge on here - he wasn't suggesting that OP fucks him from behind as he's bent over a table 🙄

ToWhitToWhoo · 09/09/2025 02:55

How old is he? Specifically, is he old enough to have been at school when corporal punishment was still in use? Strange behaviour, in any case.

LittleCarrot12 · 09/09/2025 02:50

Completely inappropriate . I’d have left and reported to HR

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 09/09/2025 02:45

I wouldn’t be happy either. Sounds like he was nervous/trying to minimise it. Isn’t it exhausting managing people? I wish they would just crack on with their jobs & leave all this behaviour at home.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 02:20

SouthernNights59 · 09/09/2025 02:11

Oh thank goodness, I thought I was the only one who thought it a complete non issue. I would have laughed and not given it a second thought.

I am so thankful my working days are now over if this is how people react to such a silly thing. No wonder the world is becoming such a dull and depressing place.

I'm thankful your working days are over too. It's staggering that you can't see how inappropriate, juvenile and disrespectful this employee's behaviour was.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 02:18

tamade · 09/09/2025 01:54

Why couldn't OP give him a telling off right there and then. Why do very little then tell her manager, why tell HR two days later?

At best it was an inappropriate joke at worst a sexualized power play to unsettle his manager. The only way to deal with that is to confront it head on there and then.

You've answered your own question - because OP was "unsettled" - she said she "found it awkward" so he achieved his aim of putting her on the back foot. We'd all like to believe we'd be cool, calm and collected in such a situation and deal with it assertively, but it isn't always that easy in the moment when someone's behaviour is unexpected and a little shocking.
And this only happened today so where do you get the idea that she's telling HR "two days later"? She can report this tomorrow if she has a mind to.

coxesorangepippin · 09/09/2025 02:13

He sounds completely bloody deranged

SouthernNights59 · 09/09/2025 02:11

user1478188491 · 08/09/2025 23:50

Lighten up it was a joke, people can’t even have a laugh nowadays without people
taking offence 🙄

Edited

Oh thank goodness, I thought I was the only one who thought it a complete non issue. I would have laughed and not given it a second thought.

I am so thankful my working days are now over if this is how people react to such a silly thing. No wonder the world is becoming such a dull and depressing place.

BauhausOfEliott · 09/09/2025 02:06

Totally inappropriate, for about a million and one reasons. You are his manager and it was a meeting about his conduct, ffs. He was disrespectful and creepy. Nobody should be bending over a desk and taking off their belt to joke about being spanked at work, FFS, and certainly not a bloke alone in a room with a female colleague. This man is gross.

Your DP is also a complete twat if he thinks that kind of thing is all just hilarious office banter.

tamade · 09/09/2025 01:54

Why couldn't OP give him a telling off right there and then. Why do very little then tell her manager, why tell HR two days later?

At best it was an inappropriate joke at worst a sexualized power play to unsettle his manager. The only way to deal with that is to confront it head on there and then.

Francestein · 09/09/2025 01:50

That behaviour very successfully showed what this dickhead thinks of your management and superior position. I would report him to HR. There is no way he would have done this if his manager was a man. Misogynistic prick.

Woodwalk · 09/09/2025 00:44

Sounds sexual to me frankly. Starting/miming/pretending to remove his belt in your presence is sexual harassment - it being part of a 'joke' about you spanking him doesn't negate that.

Don't beat yourself up for not having dealt with it there and then - lots of us would have felt too embarrassed/uncomfortable in the moment and just would have pressed on. I'd like to think I'd have walked out and said we will reschedule this once you're willing to behave appropriately - but the urge to be polite and minimise is very strong.

In your shoes, I would formally report this to HR. I'm not sure what stage of the disciplinary you are at, but I would also say that due to this new issue you are reporting you are no longer able to take part in the disciplinary for the staff member - there's now a conflict due to you needing to report sexual harassment that occured during the disciplinary hearing. This will likely mean his investigation for the initial offence will need to start again, alongside his new investigation for sexual harassment. Not a good look for him is it.

LBFseBrom · 09/09/2025 00:42

He was totally inappropriate.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:40

@user1492757084 No-one has said his behaviour was "sexual". They've said his behaviour was "Harassment related to sex" (referring to sex being a protected characteristic where his manager's sex is female). But thank you for confirming my previous post. 🙄

user1492757084 · 09/09/2025 00:34

I don't find his behaviour sexual and yes I do think he would have pretended to want the strap (like when naughty in olden day school) if you were a man. Men normally administered the strap.

It was inappropriate because he made light of his earlier behaviour. It was possibly disrespectful to the work place review and reprimand procedure. Though he was definitely admitting fault. I would have started there...

"So, you admit you were at fault some what. Explain your understanding of what happened yesterday, please."

You felt uncomfortable - possibly due to you not coming from a generation where the strap was common place in school.
I would laugh it off, as your DP did. If you want worker to apoligise for trivialising the matter and process, talk to your manager.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:31

CarpetKnees · 09/09/2025 00:21

All of this.

I can't believe there are people actually defending him Shock

Sadly, I can. There's always one or two who crawl out of the 1970s to add their two penneth worth. 🙄

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:27

TheWalkingDead81 · 09/09/2025 00:21

Wow, men can’t even act out a sexual spanking joke in a disciplinary meeting without it being a problem. Fragile times we live in.

Now that's a much funnier joke! 👏

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 00:24

Daygloboo · 09/09/2025 00:18

He was probably embarrassed and needed to break the ice/ distract from the fact he'd done something wrong by arguing. He probably would still have done it if it was a male manager. It wasnt sexuel.

Utter nonsense (I didn't say it was "sexual") and entirely irrelevant - who cares if he was "embarrassed"? He's supposed to be an adult. He should be capable of having a serious conversation with his manager (regardless of their sex) about what happened on Friday. His behaviour was childish, inappropriate and disrespectful to his manager, OP, and he deserves to be disciplined for it.

CarpetKnees · 09/09/2025 00:21

Homegrownberries · 08/09/2025 23:51

"I told my manager what happened, who basically shrugged his shoulders and said that is just what that colleague is like."

I think it's fair to go back to your manager and ask if an employee has ever bent over for a spanking from him. He's shrugging off this behaviour because, as a man, he's never been on the receiving end of it. It only effects women. This is an issue for HR. Your manager needs to be sent on a training course and the other employee needs a formal warning.

All of this.

I can't believe there are people actually defending him Shock

TheWalkingDead81 · 09/09/2025 00:21

Wow, men can’t even act out a sexual spanking joke in a disciplinary meeting without it being a problem. Fragile times we live in.

TheWalkingDead81 · 09/09/2025 00:21

Wow, men can’t even act out a sexual spanking joke in a disciplinary meeting without it being a problem. Fragile times we live in.