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Strange interaction at work and no one else sees the issue?

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Teachnomore · 08/09/2025 21:48

This happened today and I need to share. I manage a team of 12 and don’t work Friday’s. I came in today to an email from my senior/deputy about something which happened between two colleagues on Friday - without getting into details, there was an argument in front of the team and it was unprofessional.

I booked time in with each individual separately today to discuss what happened.

When I walked into the meeting room with one of the colleagues (male), he rushed up to the table, pretended to bend over and said let’s get this over with. Then stopped, pretended to take his belt off and laughed hysterically. I just told him to sit down and he said he thought what he suggested would be a quicker punishment, again laughing.

Now, am I being a bit of a killjoy here or is that really inappropriate? I told my manager what happened, who basically shrugged his shoulders and said that is just what that colleague is like. My DP found it hilarious when I told him and thinks I’ve had a sense of humour failure..

I just found it awkward and a bit rude given the circumstances.

OP posts:
DisabledDemon · 09/09/2025 12:03

Extraordinary behaviour - unprofessional and vulgar. He obviously has no respect for you as his manager and thinks that he's been there long enough that no one will do anything about him.

Time for a serious chat with HR!

Laura36TTC · 09/09/2025 12:00

Wow

Massively inappropriate

MeridianB · 09/09/2025 11:55

Megifer · 08/09/2025 21:52

Really inappropriate. I'd have paused the meeting and told him id rearrange for when hes ready for a serious discussion.

Not funny at all.

This. It's so unprofessional and gross.

Perhaps sadder still that other men think this is not only acceptable but hilarious. Time to get serious, OP.

abouttogetlynched · 09/09/2025 11:50

I would take it as a joke and suggest you lighten up, but clearly the workplace is no place for fun

BunnyVV · 09/09/2025 11:34

YourLemonTiger · 09/09/2025 09:10

I too would have laughed it off as a harmless joke because imo it is a bit funny. I used to work in an IT team and the jokes, inappropriate by todays standards, eg about dongles etc were common from men and women.

I do have quite a puerile sense of humour though 😁

Maybe its a generational thing. I'm in my mid 50s and grew up on a diet of innuendo and euphemism?

I'm not saying people are wrong to be appalled by his behaviour btw, but reporting him for some sort of shicking offence does seem excessive.

It was a serious situation. There had been an unprofessional incident. Context is also very important but you seem unable to grasp that.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 11:33

Lafufufu · 09/09/2025 07:24

Haven't rtft

Some guesses:
-This delight of a man drove the initial incident...

  • His altercation was with a woman
  • the initial incident was something to do with her not putting up with his misogynist bullshit.
  • he's either been at the company 10 mins (cant read the culture) or 10 years (thinks he's boss of everything sue to tenure and "knowing where the bodies are buried")

I would escalate this and have it investigated as two separate incidents, it shows a pattern of behaviour/ inability to behave professionally

Depending on your HR I'd also be highly inclined to report your line manager for HIS bullshit "thats just what he's like" response to your initial flag.

Id also be looking to manage him out either via HR or via "starvation" (no pay rise no promotion no praise)

Edited

He's been there 12 years longer than anyone in OP's team including her, so he's definitely in the "I'm untouchable" camp.

Laura95167 · 09/09/2025 11:14

Teachnomore · 08/09/2025 22:58

Yes

Absolutely knew from reading your OP the other person involved was a woman.

Hes a bully, and a creep. Call HR, I feel this escalation of behaviour is a disciplinary issue

Laura95167 · 09/09/2025 11:12

Well suddenly I have insight into why Friday was unprofessional

Id take this to HR.

"Just what hes like" is usually code for disrespectful and inappropriate c*nt but youll get used to him. Don't get used to him.

Its inappropriate, its unprofessional, its potentially intimidating. Disgusting response to a potential grievance issue at work

dancingbymyself · 09/09/2025 11:09

Wildly, wildly inappropriate and I worry that your husband’s ’humour’ has made you lose sight of that.

in the moment, I would have told him it was unacceptable, cancelled the meeting and told him he would be meeting with me and HR instead.

Now you need to follow up with HR, and I’d probably do a mini investigation into the fight as he has demonstrated to you he does not know how to conduct him in the workplace.

Sassylovesbooks · 09/09/2025 11:06

Yes, it was completely inappropriate. Does this colleague have form for inappropriate behaviour? I wonder if perhaps he was a little nervous, and decided that being 'humourous', was the way to make the situation less formal. He was there because he'd had an argument with another colleague in front of the entire team - regardless if he was solely to blame for that incident or not, is irrelevant. He was still there to discuss what happened/why/and possibly to be disciplined. It wasn't the correct response, but it does make you wonder how seriously he is taking the incident? Also would he have pulled the same stunt if you'd been male?!! My guess is that he wouldn't.

Shefliesonherownwings · 09/09/2025 11:03

WTAF! That is beyond inappropriate, and I’m stunned anyone thinks this is fine or just laughed at the behaviour.

I would be reporting to HR, it’s completely unacceptable.

snowmichael · 09/09/2025 11:01

I would write, on paper, to tell him that unprofessional behaviour like that automatically casts him as the villain of the piece on that Friday, and that he should consider the appropriateness of his humour in a working environment in future

MissMogwai · 09/09/2025 10:54

HR. If nothing is said, he will do it again. On what planet does he think that is appropriate, in any workplace scenario, never mind a meeting with his manager about his behaviour?!

CurlewKate · 09/09/2025 10:54

Incidentally, I find it hard to believe that anyone genuinely misunderstood the OP. People are so keen to excuse shit behaviour from men they’re prepared to make themselves look dim in the attempt!

5128gap · 09/09/2025 10:52

GobShy · 09/09/2025 10:07

Some of the older people on here are making the older generation look like a bunch of pick-me's. I assure those of you who are younger that this kind of behaviour was never acceptable to many of us. What's worse, is that these pick-me's are trying to say that just because they found it acceptable that OP should too.

When I was younger I often wished that the older women in the work place were more supportive when you faced such issues. They made it easier for people to get away with disgusting behaviour. I was hoping that things had changed. It appears not.

There is a difference between arguing that behaviour actually was acceptable in times past, and stating factually that it was accepted.
I can clearly see that the sexism we were forced to tolerate in our early careers was unacceptable. However, that doesn't mean it wasn't accepted within the workplace culture of the time.
Women describing their experiences of sexual harassment being accepted (not acceptable) within the workplace culture are not lying, they are relating history.
It's wrong to deny those experiences and the additional challenges and disadvantage that caused for us, as they are the history that sparked progress.
Women relating these experiences as though they were a positive are problematic, I agree.

LinedOverLatte · 09/09/2025 10:49

OneTealMentor · 09/09/2025 00:12

Not sex, he meant hit him with the belt

Suggesting she hit him with a belt is inappropriate enough, but he could also be alluding to her being his manager and authority figure means he sees her -in this scenario - as the Dominatrix and him Subservient.

CurlewKate · 09/09/2025 10:48

GobShy · 09/09/2025 10:07

Some of the older people on here are making the older generation look like a bunch of pick-me's. I assure those of you who are younger that this kind of behaviour was never acceptable to many of us. What's worse, is that these pick-me's are trying to say that just because they found it acceptable that OP should too.

When I was younger I often wished that the older women in the work place were more supportive when you faced such issues. They made it easier for people to get away with disgusting behaviour. I was hoping that things had changed. It appears not.

Please don’t make it about age. Many of us older women had to deal with so much crap like this from men junior to us, and we did a lot of trail blazing for younger women in management.

Anchorage56 · 09/09/2025 10:47

GAJLY · 09/09/2025 10:45

Omg that's so inappropriate! I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have done that to a male. I'd report him to HR, so it's logged.

Well we dont know if he would joke like that with a man as we dont know him. But yes not acceptable behaviour in the workplace.

GAJLY · 09/09/2025 10:45

Anchorage56 · 09/09/2025 10:34

He was suggesting that she give him the belt which was a form of punishment at school in days gone by. Teacher or headmaster would take his belt off and hit the misbehaving child with it.

Omg that's so inappropriate! I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have done that to a male. I'd report him to HR, so it's logged.

LinedOverLatte · 09/09/2025 10:43

Totally unacceptable and inappropriate.

This is what HR are for. I ‘am HR’ and would want to know about this and take further action. He needs to know it is unacceptable, inappropriate and verging on sexual harassment/ misconduct.

There is no excusing it because “that’s just what he’s like”. If he’s prepared to behave like this to his manager, what the hell does he do to colleagues / customers?

Take this to HR please.

Anchorage56 · 09/09/2025 10:34

GAJLY · 09/09/2025 10:19

Same, I'm confused too.

He was suggesting that she give him the belt which was a form of punishment at school in days gone by. Teacher or headmaster would take his belt off and hit the misbehaving child with it.

Jellycatspyjamas · 09/09/2025 10:31

YourLemonTiger · 09/09/2025 09:10

I too would have laughed it off as a harmless joke because imo it is a bit funny. I used to work in an IT team and the jokes, inappropriate by todays standards, eg about dongles etc were common from men and women.

I do have quite a puerile sense of humour though 😁

Maybe its a generational thing. I'm in my mid 50s and grew up on a diet of innuendo and euphemism?

I'm not saying people are wrong to be appalled by his behaviour btw, but reporting him for some sort of shicking offence does seem excessive.

Which is exactly how these men get away with it. His behaviour was highly inappropriate, disrespectful and demeaning. It was designed to minimise his original behaviour and avoid the investigation and review process. It needs to be addressed strongly and clearly. I’m a woman in my 50s and am frankly too old to be putting up with this shit in the workplace.

5128gap · 09/09/2025 10:26

GobShy · 09/09/2025 09:35

I find it such a lie when people say this sort of thing used to be acceptable in the workplace. It was NEVER acceptable behaviour. Not in the places where I worked, it wasn't.

Unfortunately in many workplaces it was acceptable. Women with a long work history who didn't experience it are fortunate, but there are those of us who did. We are not lying. Our experiences are important, as its the push back against them that has resulted in the better protection we have today.

Americano75 · 09/09/2025 10:25

So I think we can all guess who the main antagonist in that argument was then?

I hope you've reported this, it's absolutely ridiculous and inappropriate behaviour.

GAJLY · 09/09/2025 10:19

Saponarium · 08/09/2025 22:23

I don't understand. Was he suggesting that the quicker punishment would be smacking his bum? If so why did he pretend to take his belt off?

Same, I'm confused too.

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