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Are full stops passive aggressive?

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Samas · 07/09/2025 22:16

Are full stops really passive-aggressive now? According to my colleague they are, especially in text messages. Apparently, ending a sentence correctly is no longer “neutral” but somehow comes across as cold or hostile.

yabu= full stops are indeed PA
yanbu= of course they’re not

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NoWordForFluffy · 08/09/2025 08:09

saraclara · 08/09/2025 07:58

I have a friend who is obsessed with language, etymology, grammar etc. He studied it to a very high level and can be pedantic at times. Yet he is the first to say that language and structure develops, as it always has, or we'd still be speaking in Olde English. He would absolutely defend the the absence of a message ending full stop, as a natural development in this context

So get over yourselves. WhatsApp/messaging is relatively new, and has developed it's own systems, which make sense in the WhatsApp environment.

Nope. I'm quite happy to continue using a full stop at the end of my messages.

We don't need to 'get over ourselves', as your opinion isn't one which matters.

PestoHoliday · 08/09/2025 08:09

Yes, a full stop - particularly at the end of the final sentence of a message - is seen as passive aggressive or angry by younger people.

That's ok. Communication customs change. We don't send work emails with the same formal layout as a business letter of 1975, for example, so we all accept that new norms are created.

A coupon years ago my younger two, late teens, were discussing how moody a friend in a group chat was being. It all seemed to hinge on full stops to express her strop.

I was mystified. I always ended messages with punctuation. Eldest say, "well, yeah, but you also reply to messages correcting our spelling, so we don't apply the general rules to you. But Gran always ends a text as Love From Gran, so you aren't the worst texter in the world just yet "

KelsCommemorativeSausage · 08/09/2025 08:06

No they're not. Sentences aren't finished without them and it looks wrong.

saraclara · 08/09/2025 08:01

Willowkins · 08/09/2025 01:37

Yes it's a gen z thing
I found this out when my DD 20 asked me if I was upset with her
So I adapted my messages to her with no punctuation and use a new line each time instead
Everyone else gets the full works

Yes it's a Gen Z thing. I found this out when my DD 20 asked me if I was upset with her. So I adapted my messages to her with no punctuation (and use a new line each time instead). Everyone else gets the full works.

You don't need to use a new line for every sentence, and you don't need to drop all punctuation!
It's only the full stop at the end of the message that isn't used.

chattyness · 08/09/2025 07:59

Oh ffs, what bloody next!

saraclara · 08/09/2025 07:58

I have a friend who is obsessed with language, etymology, grammar etc. He studied it to a very high level and can be pedantic at times. Yet he is the first to say that language and structure develops, as it always has, or we'd still be speaking in Olde English. He would absolutely defend the the absence of a message ending full stop, as a natural development in this context

So get over yourselves. WhatsApp/messaging is relatively new, and has developed it's own systems, which make sense in the WhatsApp environment.

MagpiePi · 08/09/2025 07:50

I thought you sent each sentence as a separate message rather than just moving to the next line? Because having your phone pinging 5 or 6 times isn’t at all irritating and likely to cause passive aggressive responses. 😡

BIossomtoes · 08/09/2025 07:46

My son told me about this a few weeks ago with his eyes nearly rolling out of his head.

Carrotsurprise · 08/09/2025 07:44

JustTryingToBeMe · 08/09/2025 07:32

Oh my goodness, I have read it all now 🙈🥺🤷‍♀️ Please can the 12% find your spine and try to remember your English lessons at school. A full stop is inert; it ends an idea, separates two and nothing more. If people under 30 (or whatever) think that they are passive aggressive the world is doomed. People are starving and they are worrying about hurt feelings from a full stop.

People are starving, and you're worried about what punctuation young people prefer to use in certain contexts. Sounds like you need to find your spine.

Serpentstooth · 08/09/2025 07:38

Sometimes. It depends. Why ? Please be careful readers, I should have begun with a warning. Sentence ends with a very intimidating question mark.

saraclara · 08/09/2025 07:38

You all, as old people, also have aspects of social etiquette that you follow otherwise you might be considered rude. It's rules of social etiquette changing over time.
You don't need a full stop for "clarity" in a whatsapp message because the line break serves as the full stop. If you also add a full stop then you've done it unnecessarily and on purpose so it's often read as abrupt and like you're trying to stop the flow of conversation. People still use full stops in the middle of messages and in other media like emails

Well explained.

saraclara · 08/09/2025 07:34

In normal correspondence I use punctuation carefully and accurately.

But WhatsApp messaging is different. I don't use full stops at the end of a message, and I use exclamation marks more frequently, to ensure that my tone isn't misunderstood.

If I, at 69, can cope with the norms of different types of communication, I'm pretty sure the rest of you can.

JustTryingToBeMe · 08/09/2025 07:32

Oh my goodness, I have read it all now 🙈🥺🤷‍♀️ Please can the 12% find your spine and try to remember your English lessons at school. A full stop is inert; it ends an idea, separates two and nothing more. If people under 30 (or whatever) think that they are passive aggressive the world is doomed. People are starving and they are worrying about hurt feelings from a full stop.

realsavagelike · 08/09/2025 07:28

That's nucking futs.

AutumnalLight · 08/09/2025 07:24

I think if you put them after every word…Yes. They. Could. Be.

NorthernGirl1975 · 08/09/2025 07:20

UnintentionalArcher · 07/09/2025 23:42

I think @AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment explains this well. I would usually use proper punctuation in a longer message but wouldn’t use a full stop after a message that just said ‘no’. I might use an exclamation mark, if there was something to exclaim.

What I think is being missed here (not by Aston but generally) is that ‘No’ on its own is not a sentence. A sentence needs a subject and verb, so ‘ask Anna’, for example, is a fragment in which the subject is implied (as in ‘You should ask Anna’). While it’s typical to use full stops after fragments (once you know the rules, you can break them), I don’t think this typically extends to ‘no’ on its own in a text messaging context.

So, having said above that I find this idea ridiculous, I can actually see occasions when it could be seen as passive aggressive (though not many, to be honest).

But "No is a complete sentence" is said on here so much!

NorthernGirl1975 · 08/09/2025 07:17

ErrolTheDinosaur · 08/09/2025 00:35

I cannot begin to imagine work colleagues ending a message with an x.
It’d be grossly unprofessional.Confused

One of mine did when we messaged last night. In fact he used two. But it wasn't a work related message.

Carrotsurprise · 08/09/2025 07:16

This whole thread reads like a Daily Mail comment section. It's not about anxiety or mental health or thin skinned young people being triggered. You all, as old people, also have aspects of social etiquette that you follow otherwise you might be considered rude. It's rules of social etiquette changing over time.
You don't need a full stop for "clarity" in a whatsapp message because the line break serves as the full stop. If you also add a full stop then you've done it unnecessarily and on purpose so it's often read as abrupt and like you're trying to stop the flow of conversation. People still use full stops in the middle of messages and in other media like emails.

NorthernGirl1975 · 08/09/2025 07:15

Willowkins · 08/09/2025 01:37

Yes it's a gen z thing
I found this out when my DD 20 asked me if I was upset with her
So I adapted my messages to her with no punctuation and use a new line each time instead
Everyone else gets the full works

Yes it's a Gen Z thing. I found this out when my DD 20 asked me if I was upset with her. So I adapted my messages to her with no punctuation (and use a new line each time instead). Everyone else gets the full works.

I wouldn't pander to that.

Fairyliz · 08/09/2025 07:11

My adult DC’s told me this a couple of years ago. However, they forgive me for doing it because I am old, so obviously I don’t know anything. 😁

BoudiccaRuled · 08/09/2025 07:09

ThatPeachFox · 07/09/2025 22:25

My old manager wouldn't let me use exclamation marks, because he though it looked like sarcasm.
People are petty

My elderly mother is now using exclamation marks with abandon. It is exhausting to read. Like receiving letters from a Spanish teenager c.1990.

WaitWhatWhatWait · 08/09/2025 07:07

thepariscrimefiles · 08/09/2025 07:05

I presume that you can use full stops if your message has more than one sentence and it's just the final full stop that is deemed passive-aggressive?

Apparently not. You must move down a line, to indicate the end of a sentence.
What you do when there's a new paragraph is anyone's guess 🤔.

thepariscrimefiles · 08/09/2025 07:05

GladioliGreen · 07/09/2025 22:26

According to my teenagers they are. They asked me not to put full stops in my texts to them because it makes it seem like I'm mad at them.

I presume that you can use full stops if your message has more than one sentence and it's just the final full stop that is deemed passive-aggressive?

OlympicProcrastinator · 08/09/2025 06:52

I mean this is Gen Z we are talking about isn’t it? So they will probably see it as ‘literal violence’ for which they require a ‘safe space’ to recover from the complex PTSD it causes them, using the last fidget spinner to cope.

So probably.

Isittimeformynapyet · 08/09/2025 06:42

Willowkins · 08/09/2025 01:37

Yes it's a gen z thing
I found this out when my DD 20 asked me if I was upset with her
So I adapted my messages to her with no punctuation and use a new line each time instead
Everyone else gets the full works

Yes it's a Gen Z thing. I found this out when my DD 20 asked me if I was upset with her. So I adapted my messages to her with no punctuation (and use a new line each time instead). Everyone else gets the full works.

So you said 😄

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