To think most men are filthy losers

And now I see this OP upset at men masturbating (not something I want to watch btw).

Not only is she watching, she is taking screenshots of them doing it.

Yuk!

Yeah, thought that odd 😂

I felt a bit sick reading this Petitchat.

A perfect example of how many men just do not have a clue.

Rubbish, of course it's not most men. You must know some awful men but thankfully I don't

Jesus christ

*tounge damn autocorrect.

what I mean to say my mentioning this pretty gross kiss is that this man, at 42 years old I just knew in my heart would be the same as the other losers.
If he hadn’t learnt by his age how to read a woman’s body language and adjust so she’s more comfortable, or to slow the fuck down, then he isn’t going to learn.
I know people will say I should have told him, but that’s not my job, I’m not trying to teach anyone how to behave respectfully.
Also I did say ‘I need to get home, early start etc’ as a sign the kissing was finished but there he was, in my space, leaning in and grabbing the back of my head. Just FUCK OFF 😂
sorry OP for the rants, just solidarity here 💪🏻

I disagree. This post is reality about what is happening.

I am sorry if this makes you feel uncomfortable, but just because it does not affect you, does not mean it does not affect millions of other women.

When I was first married, my DH and myself were feeling really horny one day and had a good session.
But afterwards he suddenly said "woah, I was so excited I nearly raped you then"

I was so shocked and upset, it put me right off him and sex for a while.
When I explained why, he genuinely was surprised. He didn't see anything wrong in saying that!!

Unbelievable!!!
I did get over it though and he's NEVER said anything like that again.
We've been happily married for 34 years now but I've never forgot that.

I mean, is this sort of thing on mens minds all the time, even the decent husbands and fathers?

I like a dirty joke or sexual innuendo as much as the next person but the difference is I know my audience and of course I’m not doing it to flirt. Some women friends I know will laugh and I laugh at their dirty jokes. I would never in a million years say it to someone I wasn’t 1000% sure would appreciate it. Men don’t seem to care or are opportunistic. Vile either way.

They’re men, disgusting filthy human beings. Not pigs!

I feel similar to some posters. I would be happy without having sex again. I’m finding my DH challenging most days I sometimes crave a single life. I never had a healthy relationship with a male my entire life from my family (dad and brother) to any in law relations, DH and work colleagues.

I’ve been feeling similar OP, I don’t know if it’s peri menopause or the internet affecting men’s minds but I am finding myself more and more disgusted in men.
I have brilliant relationships with male family members, my brothers in law etc so I know what respectful kind men look like.
However.
the dating scene is awful. Even my children’s father became this gropey grabby sex demanding sulking loser. I felt I couldn’t go to bed at night even though I was exhausted from working full time and raising the children. Then every relationship since has involved one of the following; sulking, pornified sex, being too pushy too soon, suggestive messages, cheating.
i do wonder what will become of those men once they’re no longer ‘attractive’ and the women willing to date them dries up.
I also HATE having to break up with them and explain we’re not well matched. The dread of knowing you’ll get a stroppy bewildered response.
I recently took a year off dating and got back into it with a nice seeming man I met through work. We had a great date, flowers etc lovely time and then when we kissed at the end of the night he got SO passionate SO fast, making ‘sexy’ noises and biting my lip, shoving his younger in my mouth and honestly I felt utterly dead inside.

It’s so disappointing isn’t it. I tend very much to thinking all people are ok until I find otherwise but many times men are disappointing, even as an acquaintance and not a particular friend or boyfriend.
One male friend/sometimes date I had years ago was hugely responsible as a parent/in his job and treated people very well. He told me once that I really don’t want to know what goes on in men’s heads, as it’s really not nice - he seemed to struggle with the fact it went on his head too. I didn’t want to believe him (though he was always too honest for me!), or accept he could put it on all men, but I tend to more and more think he was probably right.
Apart from all the above type scenarios that I have seen/been on receiving end etc, I have actively witnessed 3 quite long term happily married men - in that both parties seem happy, and talk very well of partner etc - try it on with other women after a drink or so, which is more of a disappointment to me than the average single Pringle turning out to be a dick.
I still can’t quite believe most men are like this, or don’t want to believe it, but I see little to confirm they’re not.
I do still genuinely believe my parents/grandparents were very happily together and one other couple I know, but maybe that’s a generation thing too, less porn/availability to see others, or maybe I just wouldn’t know differently anyway.
I don’t know the answer, though age has stopped it happening to me in the main, which is a blessing amongst the downsides!

Now that's going too far!
But yes, I agree 😁

@GarlicPint I have.

I think she's wrong and also she's spent her life attracting the wrong kind of men.

I've been round the block and thankfully all the men I've known have been decent blokes.

Maybe you should read all the OP's posts?

Just looked at this. Quote:

"However, this pattern of mothers appearing to show higher rates of abuse may be a methodological anomaly, since when accounting to the absence of fathers in the home, fathers are equally likely, or even more likely, to be the perpetrators of CPA (Nobes & Smith, 2000). In fact, Nobes and Smith demonstrated that children were less likely to live in homes with their fathers, and after controlling for father absence, children living with both parents were 50% more likely to receive physical abuse from their father (Nobes & Smith, 2000). Hence, the lower rate of CPA from fathers may reflect their absence from the home as opposed to an actual decreased risk for CPA perpetration."

(My emphasis.) Mothers appear, in surveys, to hit their children more because fathers are often absent from the children's lives. After adjusting for this, it transpires that 50% more fathers than mothers hit the children.

Certainly in my family home, the physical and emotional abuse all came from Dad. There were several of us, and he did it to Mum too. He also hit my nephews when they were little. I had one school friend whose mother abused her, lots whose fathers and stepfathers did. We know about the large number of relationships breaking down because of an abusive man: a high proportion of those men will abuse the children but, after separation, will see them only rarely or not at all.

There's a rapidly growing problem of teenage sons beating their mothers, too. It's been in the news lately.

Maybe you should stop watching this stuff?

How does I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

I don't see the connection! Googling your ex- and finding those videos?

No. Not in my experience. The men in my
life are genuinely my favourite people and no-one has ever mistreated me as a person or sexually. I know there are such men out there that you speak of. But majority. I think not. I am friends still with most of my ex’s. I don’t see any of them anymore. We live far apart now. But we speak now and then and have had friendly relationships for many many years since I’ve been married for over 25 years now. I have no idea of the types of websites you’ve been looking at. But I expect if you go to a dodgy site. You’ll find a host of men like that. Just as if you went to OF it would be a majority of women. And I’m sure there are mixed sex sites etc. basically if you look for sexually explicit online material you’ll find those people there. But the population is far more massive than that. It may look huge amounts of people but comparatively it’s not. So I will not be agreeing with you. I do feel sorry for women, of which mumsnet has a lot, that dislike the men in their lives and have had bad experiences. Again. This is not a majority but will be skewed with population who likely are looking for an outlet to share their bad experiences.

Yes. I think most men are controlled by their sexual urges ultimately. And a lot of them don't admit their kinks and suppress them out of shame, which is yet another thing that leads to incel attitudes and male loneliness. They are just odd, creepy, angry, lonely things!

I’m in my twenties and most of my exs are in their thirties. I completely agree.

The most recent one (a 36 year old) was commenting and liking photos of onlyfans woman, random local woman who didn’t follow him back. The icing on the cake was he was commenting on one asking to meet up with an AI brass 😭 Think he was too stupid to realise it was AI.

I ended things as soon as I found out and told him exactly what I thought of him. Of course he tried to gaslight but I made it plain and simple I wouldn’t be with an embarrassing pervert.

I used to be the type who would try any keep my dignity and walk away quietly but now I tell exactly what I think of them.

The amount of happy couples I see and the men are commenting on other woman’s provocative photos. I had a handsome one add me recently who I presumed was a single dad. Liked all of my photos and it wasn’t until he got tagged in a story, he was on holiday with his wife and kids! Blocked him immediately 🤮

I’m at the point I can’t be bothered with them. Yes it’s lonely at times but not having that awful stomach gut feeling when you just know they’re hiding something is very refreshing.

I think my trust issues are beyond repair now. I always look for signs of them cheating and nearly always find something. Unfortunately I can’t see it improving.

🙄🙄🙄

Read everything you said with anger

But girl, just because someone is sexy or wears make up, doesnt mean that they want or deserve that attention

Sorry you've had to survive such shit men x

Are you a comedy psychiatrist?

If it's not one thing.

It's your mother.

Absolutely not.

No way.

There is no world where the mother committed the abuse every time.