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Putting 2yo in front seat of car???

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dontcomeatme · 06/09/2025 23:00

I've discussed this multiple times on MN but we're at the end of our tether right now.
My 2yo DS is severely travel sick. Has been pretty much since he was born, we could never drive for more than 40mins to an hour at max and he would projectile vomit. We had to forward face him at 2yo which we desperately didn't want to do but he was choking on his sick rear facing and being in the laid back position.
We're now at the point where even a 20-25 minute journey is making him sick. We are washing the car seat that often we have bought a spare to use while one is in the wash, and as soon as one is clean the other is dirty 😭 I sit in the back with him primed with sick bags but it makes him hysterical just to look at them so I feel like I'm making him worse!
We've been to the GP multiple times now but they just say its one of those things 🙄 I'm ringing on Monday and I want an emergency appointment with a different GP, this level of sickness isn't normal. It is projectile! Comes out of his mouth, nose, absolutely covers him. He goes grey and feels like sh*t for the rest of the day 😢
Do they prescribe anti sickness meds for kids or do we have to buy them? Most of the ones I've seen online are for 4yo plus and I'm hesitant to give him them.
I am seriously contemplating putting him in the front of the car, with the airbags off. Is that insane? AIBU to think this is the solution?!?! He's 28months, 99centile height and weight. We seriously don't know what else to do!
We've started walking and getting the bus everywhere just to prevent the sickness but this isn't sustainable, we missed a hospital appointment last week because the bus didn't come on time 🤦🏻‍♀️
Any suggestions at all? What worked for your DC? Can the doctors actually do anything ? Do you think front seat would help? It always helped me as a child but this was the 90s, my parents shoved me up the front without even a booster seat.
Any advice is appreciated 🙏

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Just3ok · 09/09/2025 10:57

dontcomeatme · 07/09/2025 10:17

Good point I will have to query this x

Sorry just just seen youngest 5 months

yes you’ll need an exemption

Just3ok · 09/09/2025 10:55

dontcomeatme · 07/09/2025 16:59

Yeah multiple DC, it would be a pain to move now we've just bought our forever home in the best school catchment!
He was rear facing until 2yo but had to be put ff recently because it was just too much x

How old is the youngest?

mismomary · 08/09/2025 16:00

I would try the front seat and see how you get on. You feel less motion in the front as well as being able to see further ahead.

Also you could consider changing your car. Some are honestly worse than others - you want a firm suspension and to be lower to the ground so there's less roll.

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 15:40

BertieBotts · 08/09/2025 15:34

I think it's been suggested on this thread already but in case not - it's worth getting his eyes tested, they have cameras these days that can check a 2yo's eyes without needing him to read letters off a chart. Apparently this can contribute to travel sickness.

Yes I was reading about potential underlying issues that can contribute to motion sickness and it advised to get his eyes and ears checked, definitely want to rule everything out. Its so severe for him it's so restrictive. We dare not even take him on a little uk holiday because the drive would kill him x

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BertieBotts · 08/09/2025 15:34

I think it's been suggested on this thread already but in case not - it's worth getting his eyes tested, they have cameras these days that can check a 2yo's eyes without needing him to read letters off a chart. Apparently this can contribute to travel sickness.

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 15:15

Thank you 🥹🫶

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dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 15:14

Btowngirl · 08/09/2025 13:40

Sitting up front would only really improve things if your DS is facing forward as this is usually the main contributor of sickness. In that case, have you tried the middle back seat forward facing? Middle seat is the safest seat in the car too and much more accessible for you too.

He's been FF for about 5 months with no improvement, even in the middle. I have a gp appointment on Wednesday hoping to get some meds for him and then he can stay in the back for longer 🤞 x

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Btowngirl · 08/09/2025 13:40

Sitting up front would only really improve things if your DS is facing forward as this is usually the main contributor of sickness. In that case, have you tried the middle back seat forward facing? Middle seat is the safest seat in the car too and much more accessible for you too.

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 13:36

Thank you this really gave me a boost. I'm been feel like crap about this whole thing, I feel like im weighing up his safety vs his health and I can't win either way!

He has a GP appointment on Wednesday to ask about some meds for his age and weight etc. But for now we're definitely trialling short drives in the front to try and ease his anxiety.

Ooh we have a fan I'll give him one next time that's a genius idea! X

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dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 13:34

BertieBotts · 08/09/2025 12:32

It's tricky because he is on higher centiles. That's the trouble I think.

Out of Bold R or i-Irvana Max, I would probably opt for the i-Irvana Max unless the price difference is significant. (it has to be the Max, the older i-Irvana doesn't have the 125cm/25kg extended harness limit.) Simply because of the newer regulation. I know many many posters have been happy over the years with Joie Bold, though so it would also be a good choice if you are using the TT/iso.

If you want to persevere with the front seat and don't have isofix there, then you'll need a belt fitted seat, so one of the three I mentioned before (Joie Elevate R129, Graco Eldura R129, Maxi Cosi Beryl). None are ideal because the weight limit on the first two is 21.5kg, which it looks like he might get to around 3.5 years if he stays on the same line (which he might not, but still), and the Beryl has a lower-ish top harness height, so any of these three won't last you as long as the Bold or Irvana Max. The Beryl is also expensive, though IMO it's one of the better extended harness seats as long as shoulder height is not an issue. I can't remember the exact height of it now, but from memory it was identical to the Joie i-Spin 360 so you could possibly do a sneaky try of one in a shop with him if you can't find a Beryl to view in person.

Our 2018 (I think) Peugeot 3008 had isofix and top tether in the front. I know the current latest model doesn't have it - I don't know whether the one in between did. I think ours was the first after they switched to the SUV style. We now have the 5008, which has isofix in the middle back seat although I think the view to the front is not good, and I tend to feel sick if I sit in the back of it for too long. Peugeot and Citroen are both PSA Motors so have some manufacturing similarities.

DS2 will be able to go into the Joie Every Stage you already have, used rear facing. So don't worry too much about this. That at least can be postponed for a couple of years, and you can cross that bridge when he gets close to 18kg! There is usually an ERF seat around the £200 mark, so it wouldn't hurt to try and put £10 aside a month as a sort of car seat replacement fund and if you end up not needing it then you can spend it on something else.

Thank you! I think my 5 month old will probably be closer to 18kg around 12 to 18 months if he stays on track! Thankfully he can just have his brothers seat while I save to buy the ERF, that's a good idea!

I might just get the Irvana max to be honest. It seems the better of the options. I'll sit and compare all the prices tonight though. The shops around here definitely don't stock chairs like that so thank you we'll pop to smyths at the weekend and try the joie spin.
I've managed to get him an appointment on Wednesday I'm hoping we can get something sorted so I can put him back in the back soon x

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dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 13:27

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/09/2025 12:20

What is your little boy's weight?

17.5kg, over 100cm height, can't remember last measurment 🤦🏻‍♀️ x

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BertieBotts · 08/09/2025 12:32

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 10:29

@BertieBotts which would you recommend out of those 2?
I'm going to check our front seat for isofix fittings tonight.
It's shocking how company's selling something as important as car seats can pretty much wing the description!
I'm worried about my 5 month old. He's 12.8kg already and 80cm, last measured. I will need the extended RF for him won't I? Thankfully he doesn't seem to be affected by travel sickness yet 🤞 it was obvious at this age already with my 2YO.

It's tricky because he is on higher centiles. That's the trouble I think.

Out of Bold R or i-Irvana Max, I would probably opt for the i-Irvana Max unless the price difference is significant. (it has to be the Max, the older i-Irvana doesn't have the 125cm/25kg extended harness limit.) Simply because of the newer regulation. I know many many posters have been happy over the years with Joie Bold, though so it would also be a good choice if you are using the TT/iso.

If you want to persevere with the front seat and don't have isofix there, then you'll need a belt fitted seat, so one of the three I mentioned before (Joie Elevate R129, Graco Eldura R129, Maxi Cosi Beryl). None are ideal because the weight limit on the first two is 21.5kg, which it looks like he might get to around 3.5 years if he stays on the same line (which he might not, but still), and the Beryl has a lower-ish top harness height, so any of these three won't last you as long as the Bold or Irvana Max. The Beryl is also expensive, though IMO it's one of the better extended harness seats as long as shoulder height is not an issue. I can't remember the exact height of it now, but from memory it was identical to the Joie i-Spin 360 so you could possibly do a sneaky try of one in a shop with him if you can't find a Beryl to view in person.

Our 2018 (I think) Peugeot 3008 had isofix and top tether in the front. I know the current latest model doesn't have it - I don't know whether the one in between did. I think ours was the first after they switched to the SUV style. We now have the 5008, which has isofix in the middle back seat although I think the view to the front is not good, and I tend to feel sick if I sit in the back of it for too long. Peugeot and Citroen are both PSA Motors so have some manufacturing similarities.

DS2 will be able to go into the Joie Every Stage you already have, used rear facing. So don't worry too much about this. That at least can be postponed for a couple of years, and you can cross that bridge when he gets close to 18kg! There is usually an ERF seat around the £200 mark, so it wouldn't hurt to try and put £10 aside a month as a sort of car seat replacement fund and if you end up not needing it then you can spend it on something else.

Mmr224 · 08/09/2025 12:24

I'm swithering at the moment, we need to replace a seat which was damaged (using the grandparents spare at the moment) and trying to decide whether another Bold R or the new Irvana one. We really like the bold but it needs isofix and seatbelt from 18 to 25kg the other seat doesn't. I'd like to see one in real life before I order it but can't find anywhere local stocking it in a shop. Good luck whatever you decide. If the front. seat worked, maybe try the piriton next and then back seat again with piriton?

LoveHearts69 · 08/09/2025 12:24

I’d give it a try! I had travel sickness really badly as a child and the only thing that really helped was to stare out of the front window, definitely not the sides or look at anything inside the car for too long so it may well work!

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/09/2025 12:20

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 12:07

I was hesitant because they're foe age 4+ and he's only 2. The GP couldn't advise either way so I felt unsure x

What is your little boy's weight?

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 12:07

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/09/2025 12:02

In your last thread you were advised to use Kwells.
Have you done so?

I was hesitant because they're foe age 4+ and he's only 2. The GP couldn't advise either way so I felt unsure x

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/09/2025 12:02

dontcomeatme · 07/09/2025 00:23

The GP recommended those but they have zero effect. Someone mentioned kids kwells to me or dramamine but I'm anxious to try. Going to order something now i think

In your last thread you were advised to use Kwells.
Have you done so?

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 11:59

intoFolklore · 08/09/2025 11:12

Sorry just saw this has already been addressed. Glad you're on the ball looking for a replacement seat

Thank you ☺️

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dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 11:58

intoFolklore · 08/09/2025 11:11

But he is close to the maximum weight limit for the harness of his current seat, and he is far too young to safely use a seatbelt instead of a harness. The FF seats with a higher harness limit require isofix and top tether. Does your front seat have isofix so you can continue to do this in future? Otherwise he will need to sit in the back seats in order to survive a crash. At 2 he will not be safe in a crash FF with a seatbelt.

@intoFolklore I know, I'm hoping if he isn't sick a few times his anxiety around it will dissipate slightly, plus a prescription medication, should mean he can try going in the middle in the back again with the bigger car seat properly fitted. For now he's still just under 18kg so I'm hoping this plans works

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intoFolklore · 08/09/2025 11:12

Sorry just saw this has already been addressed. Glad you're on the ball looking for a replacement seat

intoFolklore · 08/09/2025 11:11

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 07:25

Thanks everyone for the car seat recommendations. I'm definitely not RF again that was too traumatic for everyone involved.
We trialled DS in the front last night with his car seat and air bag switched off, we wanted to try it, 1 to see if it actually helped, and 2, if not I needed to swap all the car seats back round haha.
We did a 35 minute round trip with 1 break in the middle, he had the window fully open and we were looking for all the cars out the window, he wasn't sick and his colour looked great throughout the whole journey 🥹 I'm going to keep him up front for now, ring the GP and ask about medication and then hopefully he can go in the middle in the back 🤞 x

But he is close to the maximum weight limit for the harness of his current seat, and he is far too young to safely use a seatbelt instead of a harness. The FF seats with a higher harness limit require isofix and top tether. Does your front seat have isofix so you can continue to do this in future? Otherwise he will need to sit in the back seats in order to survive a crash. At 2 he will not be safe in a crash FF with a seatbelt.

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 10:29

@BertieBotts which would you recommend out of those 2?
I'm going to check our front seat for isofix fittings tonight.
It's shocking how company's selling something as important as car seats can pretty much wing the description!
I'm worried about my 5 month old. He's 12.8kg already and 80cm, last measured. I will need the extended RF for him won't I? Thankfully he doesn't seem to be affected by travel sickness yet 🤞 it was obvious at this age already with my 2YO.

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BertieBotts · 08/09/2025 08:55

Joie i-Irvana Max is also worth a look because it's got the newer safety certificate and is also up to 25kg though they have the wrong manual on the website. Someone on here bought one recently and confirmed it's deffo up to 25kg/125cm. Similar price to bold, I think.

BertieBotts · 08/09/2025 08:53

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 08:49

@bertiebotts
I've just been looking at the joie bold r on argos and it says the seat attachment is isofix and top tether, but also states if its in the front seat to have the airbag off. Can it be fitted with the normal seat belt? Because most cars don't have top tether or iso in the front seat?

Some cars do have Isofix in the front seat. But it can also be fitted using seatbelt only, in the high back booster mode. That's the thing I was talking about, sometimes this isn't clear and people assume it can be fitted either way.

For the 5 point harness 18-25kg, Joie Bold R needs Isofix, seatbelt AND top tether.

I would also say be careful about taking things like Argos listings as gospel - sometimes those are just copied and pasted from a form somewhere and have errors. I don't have the Bold manual to hand but it could be that's a standard line that's been copied from a seat which allows rear facing by accident.

dontcomeatme · 08/09/2025 08:49

@bertiebotts
I've just been looking at the joie bold r on argos and it says the seat attachment is isofix and top tether, but also states if its in the front seat to have the airbag off. Can it be fitted with the normal seat belt? Because most cars don't have top tether or iso in the front seat?

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