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To think the men women need protecting from aren’t asylum seekers but the ones shouting outside the hotels?

181 replies

ForSoberBrickOwl · 05/09/2025 19:36

I read in the Guardian this week that 40% of the men arrested during last year’s racist riots had already been reported to police for domestic abuse. That stat hasn’t left my mind.
It makes me think that the men standing outside asylum hotels claiming to “protect” women are often the very ones we need protecting from.

AIBU to think the real danger isn’t coming from migrants, it’s coming from the violent, radicalised men already here who use women’s safety as a smokescreen?

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StrawberryJangle · 05/09/2025 20:32

Give your stats to the teenage girl sexually assaulted and tell her to jog on with GCSEs why don't you?

This isn't about grown adult vs grown adult.
This isn't about a choice to leave or stay.

It's about a child.

YABVVU.

tinytemper66 · 05/09/2025 20:31

Can you imagine them ‘walking’ us women home as suggested by some
man? Smile love, ungrateful bitch etc…

InsectsMatter · 05/09/2025 20:31

OP clearly lives miles from a migrant hotel in some lovely non-diverse Grauniad-reading leafy suburb.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 05/09/2025 20:30

Zov · 05/09/2025 19:38

YABVVVVVU.

In the most recent riots 47 out of 151 people arrested had prior convictions for domestic abuse. In the riots in Northern Ireland recently, almost half the rioters, 48%, had prior convictions for domestic abuse. A quarter of all Reform members of parliament have convictions for domestic abuse.

The dangerous men are the protesters. Not the people in the hotels.

MushMonster · 05/09/2025 20:29

steff13 · 05/09/2025 19:58

This. Some of the protesters are bad men. That doesn't mean that some of the asylum seekers are not also bad men.

Exactly this!

Zov · 05/09/2025 20:29

OwlBeThere · 05/09/2025 20:28

But if the immigrants were that dangerous then there would be loads of examples of them assaulting women. But there are not. Women here are mostly at risk from the men they live with. Simple fact.

Really? Confused I don't even know where to start with that!

Sskka · 05/09/2025 20:29

OwlBeThere · 05/09/2025 20:28

But if the immigrants were that dangerous then there would be loads of examples of them assaulting women. But there are not. Women here are mostly at risk from the men they live with. Simple fact.

Seriously? The whole grooming gang thing just passed you by?

Zov · 05/09/2025 20:28

OwlBeThere · 05/09/2025 20:25

We don’t call them ‘third world’ countries anymore. As they are not. Developing nations some may be, but third world? No.

there are men with dubious ideas of how to treat women all over the world. But the fact of the matter is, the men most women are in danger from are the men they live with, or are closely related to. That’s an undeniable fact. so yes, those women are mostly at risk from the men protesting ‘on their behalf’ because those men hurt those women.

We'll see.

OwlBeThere · 05/09/2025 20:28

Absentmindedsmile · 05/09/2025 20:21

Do you live in the UK, by any chance? With its 85% white British born population. Just asking. Proportionality and all that. Get it?

But if the immigrants were that dangerous then there would be loads of examples of them assaulting women. But there are not. Women here are mostly at risk from the men they live with. Simple fact.

TomatoSandwiches · 05/09/2025 20:26

How ridiculous, the men women need protecting from are in the hotel as guests and staff, outside the hotel as protesters and ones walking past and in the police presence as well.

All men are a problem, all of them.

OwlBeThere · 05/09/2025 20:25

Zov · 05/09/2025 20:11

An excellent explanation as to why the OP is being VERY unreasonable, (and speaking a load of rot.) 👏

We don’t call them ‘third world’ countries anymore. As they are not. Developing nations some may be, but third world? No.

there are men with dubious ideas of how to treat women all over the world. But the fact of the matter is, the men most women are in danger from are the men they live with, or are closely related to. That’s an undeniable fact. so yes, those women are mostly at risk from the men protesting ‘on their behalf’ because those men hurt those women.

araiwa · 05/09/2025 20:24

Every accusation is a confession

Menopausalsourpuss · 05/09/2025 20:22

I think you are confused. That stat refers to men ARRESTED for rioting not merely protesting outside a hotel. They are two completely different things. I don't think there has been any analysis of the men outside hotels and for your info it's completely lawful to protest. And alot of the people protesting are women worried about their safety after several attacks by the illegal migrants.

Hoppinggreen · 05/09/2025 20:21

Zov · 05/09/2025 20:18

Yep, and whataboutery! The lefties do love that!

I have never voted for a Left wing party in my life.
Men who seek asylum here may be a danger to women but so are many who were born here, especially it seems the ones who like to hang around shouting outside where asylum seekers are housed - which I don't think should be in town centres by the way

Absentmindedsmile · 05/09/2025 20:21

Hoppinggreen · 05/09/2025 20:14

You may be right but I have never been sexually assaulted by a man who wasn't white and British born

Do you live in the UK, by any chance? With its 85% white British born population. Just asking. Proportionality and all that. Get it?

GagMeWithASpoon · 05/09/2025 20:21

Why not both? It’s not an either or situation.

If we think logically , women are at risk from MEN. Adding more men , statistically only increases the risk.

scorpiogirly · 05/09/2025 20:21

The Guardian 🤣

Absentmindedsmile · 05/09/2025 20:19

It’s not either or. Sadly. It’s both. Violence Against Women and Girls is horrifically high. It’s a scandal.

Zov · 05/09/2025 20:18

Hoppinggreen · 05/09/2025 20:14

You may be right but I have never been sexually assaulted by a man who wasn't white and British born

I have. So have many other women.

Zov · 05/09/2025 20:18

KhakiTiger · 05/09/2025 20:14

Oh look, more gaslighting from a leftie.

Yep, and whataboutery! The lefties do love that!

O0OO · 05/09/2025 20:16

Having lived near one (of the hotel housing) yabu.

KhakiTiger · 05/09/2025 20:14

Oh look, more gaslighting from a leftie.

Hoppinggreen · 05/09/2025 20:14

Zov · 05/09/2025 20:13

Exactly. They have zero respect for women, and their values do not align with us over in The UK.

You may be right but I have never been sexually assaulted by a man who wasn't white and British born

loulouljh · 05/09/2025 20:14

er no..