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LittleMi55Nobody · 05/09/2025 16:40

ladies..just wondering..are you fed up of men posting on mumsnet..why don't they start their own "dadsnet/mansnet" group..im getting fed up of obvious "male" comments undermining our woman issues....quite honestly id like them to fuck off cos im not interested in their opinons on womanship

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BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 18:17

Yes, I do me.

Otherwise I would just start a female-forum, or at least not go on a forum opened to anyone and everyone where you can discuss plumbing issues, dog breed and the acceptable time to message a friend on whatsapp and completely random issues😂

It can't be renamed PEOPLENET because pretty sure that name is already taken.

NoThanksNeeded · 06/09/2025 18:13

"Male apologists" for being ok with men being where they have every right to be. Ok then.

And plenty on here isn't "women's problems". AIBU can sometimes be almost wholly politics which don't specifically target women for example.

Other topics are about benefits and housing and useful things like that.

Youdontseehow · 06/09/2025 18:09

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 18:07

but you see ,To me it is a women’s forum. Only women can be mums. Just like only men can be dads. The clue is in the forum name.

for many of us, it's NOT a women's forum at all, anymore than it is a "mum" forum.

I don't believe much in "women only" forum, because I fail to see why men are not involved?
Parenting: both, sometimes only the dad - and being a single dad is much harder because of the lack of support. Gay couples? Widower? Why wouldn't they belong on here?

Why can't the read about periods, first bra when their own daughter will be dealing with that, and they have no partner to take care of that?

Don't we want fathers, and men to know about periods in general, menopause, PND?

Pregnancy and birth? While only a woman can experience it, it would help if men could understand, and as I said, medical staff dealing and helping us are male too

Women seek out the opinions of other women because of these shared experiences and understandings.
but we don't have shared experience and understandings?
For women screaming they HATE men because in their experience men hate us, and they are abused and assaulted on a nearly daily basis, many of us have totally different experience.

And if something is that obvious to us, does it hurt for a partner to read and suddenly think: I didn't think of that!

Women liked having a safe space to chat
an anonymous forum is only ever going to be this, anonymous - and safe in that aspect, but it's naive to pretend it's a bubble.

I don't want "women's space" I want equality. Banning men is going backward in my opinion.

Maybe it was created for mothers, but most of the issues have nothing to do with motherhood, so if we accept non-mothers on here - and non-motherhood issues- I can't see why we have a problem with men.

You do you.

as I said - just my opinion.

LovelySunnyDayToday · 06/09/2025 18:07

Agree. Had to report a man twice this morning before 7am for offering to be a sperm donor. Twat! 🙄🙄🙄

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 18:07

Youdontseehow · 06/09/2025 15:22

To me it is a women’s forum. Only women can be mums. Just like only men can be dads. The clue is in the forum name.

Women’s and men’s experiences differ significantly biologically, culturally, socially and emotionally. Women are not one homogeneous group but our experiences are shaped and shared as a result of the way in which society is constructed and how we understand experience is a result of that. Women seek out the opinions of other women because of these shared experiences and understandings.

Men can never understand women’s experiences because they are not women and are not consciously and subconsciously subject to the societal forces which women are. So for example, I might ask my DH’s opinion on a range of subjects like where to go on holiday, what to have for dinner, which sofa to buy. But I would not seek his opinion on what coercive control looks like, how to deal with bullying in the workplace (although I’d want his emotional support) or the best way to deal with menopausal symptoms, as examples.

You might want to do that, other women might want to do that, but I don’t. I can’t stop men from posting and I would respond to a man if I felt like it - I do draw distinction between genuine men asking for advice (and like I said before, I get embarrassed if there’s an unjustified pile on) and those just generally pitching in with advice in response to women’s issues/concerns. That does give me the ick.

MN might now be “for parents”/anyone but it didn’t start out like that. If it was “Parentsnet” and aimed equally at women and men, I’d bet my last dollar that it wouldn’t have been as successful. Women liked having a safe space to chat and discuss their issues - given as many as 1:4 women have been victims of SA, many women are understandably cautious and downright afraid of men. The male voice almost always dominates when a space is shared because we live in a patriarchal society.

At the end of the day this is my opinion - that’s it - just my opinion. But sometimes I just want to scream “FFS just let us have something just for us - stop always having to encroach on women’s spaces!”

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but you see ,To me it is a women’s forum. Only women can be mums. Just like only men can be dads. The clue is in the forum name.

for many of us, it's NOT a women's forum at all, anymore than it is a "mum" forum.

I don't believe much in "women only" forum, because I fail to see why men are not involved?
Parenting: both, sometimes only the dad - and being a single dad is much harder because of the lack of support. Gay couples? Widower? Why wouldn't they belong on here?

Why can't the read about periods, first bra when their own daughter will be dealing with that, and they have no partner to take care of that?

Don't we want fathers, and men to know about periods in general, menopause, PND?

Pregnancy and birth? While only a woman can experience it, it would help if men could understand, and as I said, medical staff dealing and helping us are male too

Women seek out the opinions of other women because of these shared experiences and understandings.
but we don't have shared experience and understandings?
For women screaming they HATE men because in their experience men hate us, and they are abused and assaulted on a nearly daily basis, many of us have totally different experience.

And if something is that obvious to us, does it hurt for a partner to read and suddenly think: I didn't think of that!

Women liked having a safe space to chat
an anonymous forum is only ever going to be this, anonymous - and safe in that aspect, but it's naive to pretend it's a bubble.

I don't want "women's space" I want equality. Banning men is going backward in my opinion.

Maybe it was created for mothers, but most of the issues have nothing to do with motherhood, so if we accept non-mothers on here - and non-motherhood issues- I can't see why we have a problem with men.

TinyTempest · 06/09/2025 18:04

Youdontseehow · 06/09/2025 17:57

Nice passive aggressive try at making @thebabayaga2025 DH/DS sound like the problem (ie suggestion they somehow cannot cope with intelligent women) but I think we all know what @thebabayaga2025 means - well at least those of us who are not male apologists do.

As has been said up thread - there are plenty of resources for males/single dads etc - why can’t they just post there where they are more likely to chat with other single dads etc?

It’s fascinating that a website like Mumsnet can attract men to talk about all sorts of mainly female issues behind the anonymity of a screen yet if you started a conversation about such things in say, the pub or at work, they’d likely run a mile!

I'm asking @thebabayaga2025 a very simple question.

And as I take it you are not them, and you don't know her husband or son, you won't be able to answer why they would have no interest in this place at all.

So I'll wait for their answer thanks.

5128gap · 06/09/2025 18:04

TinyTempest · 06/09/2025 17:18

The decent men, like my husband and adult son, would have no interest in this place at all

Not even if they were single parents? That's a shame.

What is it about a website that's predominantly full of intelligent women that means they would have no interest in it at all?

Maybe because they would assume that the intelligent women may want to hear from other intelligent women? And that as men, their voices tend to dominate pretty much everywhere, so that it might be polite to back off a little, because the intelligent women just might have it covered without them?

Youdontseehow · 06/09/2025 17:57

TinyTempest · 06/09/2025 17:18

The decent men, like my husband and adult son, would have no interest in this place at all

Not even if they were single parents? That's a shame.

What is it about a website that's predominantly full of intelligent women that means they would have no interest in it at all?

Nice passive aggressive try at making @thebabayaga2025 DH/DS sound like the problem (ie suggestion they somehow cannot cope with intelligent women) but I think we all know what @thebabayaga2025 means - well at least those of us who are not male apologists do.

As has been said up thread - there are plenty of resources for males/single dads etc - why can’t they just post there where they are more likely to chat with other single dads etc?

It’s fascinating that a website like Mumsnet can attract men to talk about all sorts of mainly female issues behind the anonymity of a screen yet if you started a conversation about such things in say, the pub or at work, they’d likely run a mile!

TinyTempest · 06/09/2025 17:18

thebabayaga2025 · 06/09/2025 07:14

Yep, you're right. I do not welcome them at all. The world is full of pushy, loud mouthed men, if I want to hear them talk endlessly at me there's no problem at all finding as many as I like.

And yep, men (as a sex) are far more aggressive about sex, ignorant and pushy when it comes to women's sexual experiences and far, far, far more likely to post something really dodgy about children.

The decent men, like my husband and adult son, would have no interest in this place at all, so unfortunately that means it's mainly annoying ignoramuses who want to troll, lecture, be disgusting, minimise or otherwise throw their weight around who turn up on mumsnet.

As a happily married woman who has no problem at all with men in general, they do not belong on mumsnet and I wish they would just fuck off.

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The decent men, like my husband and adult son, would have no interest in this place at all

Not even if they were single parents? That's a shame.

What is it about a website that's predominantly full of intelligent women that means they would have no interest in it at all?

almostoveritnow · 06/09/2025 17:10

Youdontseehow · 06/09/2025 15:22

To me it is a women’s forum. Only women can be mums. Just like only men can be dads. The clue is in the forum name.

Women’s and men’s experiences differ significantly biologically, culturally, socially and emotionally. Women are not one homogeneous group but our experiences are shaped and shared as a result of the way in which society is constructed and how we understand experience is a result of that. Women seek out the opinions of other women because of these shared experiences and understandings.

Men can never understand women’s experiences because they are not women and are not consciously and subconsciously subject to the societal forces which women are. So for example, I might ask my DH’s opinion on a range of subjects like where to go on holiday, what to have for dinner, which sofa to buy. But I would not seek his opinion on what coercive control looks like, how to deal with bullying in the workplace (although I’d want his emotional support) or the best way to deal with menopausal symptoms, as examples.

You might want to do that, other women might want to do that, but I don’t. I can’t stop men from posting and I would respond to a man if I felt like it - I do draw distinction between genuine men asking for advice (and like I said before, I get embarrassed if there’s an unjustified pile on) and those just generally pitching in with advice in response to women’s issues/concerns. That does give me the ick.

MN might now be “for parents”/anyone but it didn’t start out like that. If it was “Parentsnet” and aimed equally at women and men, I’d bet my last dollar that it wouldn’t have been as successful. Women liked having a safe space to chat and discuss their issues - given as many as 1:4 women have been victims of SA, many women are understandably cautious and downright afraid of men. The male voice almost always dominates when a space is shared because we live in a patriarchal society.

At the end of the day this is my opinion - that’s it - just my opinion. But sometimes I just want to scream “FFS just let us have something just for us - stop always having to encroach on women’s spaces!”

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Yup, another one who agrees with you.

I have said it before, the tone of Mumsnet has changed over the years as more men and more have started posting. There’s a lot more misogyny about.

Rickyrainfrogcroaks · 06/09/2025 16:40

Youdontseehow · 06/09/2025 15:22

To me it is a women’s forum. Only women can be mums. Just like only men can be dads. The clue is in the forum name.

Women’s and men’s experiences differ significantly biologically, culturally, socially and emotionally. Women are not one homogeneous group but our experiences are shaped and shared as a result of the way in which society is constructed and how we understand experience is a result of that. Women seek out the opinions of other women because of these shared experiences and understandings.

Men can never understand women’s experiences because they are not women and are not consciously and subconsciously subject to the societal forces which women are. So for example, I might ask my DH’s opinion on a range of subjects like where to go on holiday, what to have for dinner, which sofa to buy. But I would not seek his opinion on what coercive control looks like, how to deal with bullying in the workplace (although I’d want his emotional support) or the best way to deal with menopausal symptoms, as examples.

You might want to do that, other women might want to do that, but I don’t. I can’t stop men from posting and I would respond to a man if I felt like it - I do draw distinction between genuine men asking for advice (and like I said before, I get embarrassed if there’s an unjustified pile on) and those just generally pitching in with advice in response to women’s issues/concerns. That does give me the ick.

MN might now be “for parents”/anyone but it didn’t start out like that. If it was “Parentsnet” and aimed equally at women and men, I’d bet my last dollar that it wouldn’t have been as successful. Women liked having a safe space to chat and discuss their issues - given as many as 1:4 women have been victims of SA, many women are understandably cautious and downright afraid of men. The male voice almost always dominates when a space is shared because we live in a patriarchal society.

At the end of the day this is my opinion - that’s it - just my opinion. But sometimes I just want to scream “FFS just let us have something just for us - stop always having to encroach on women’s spaces!”

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Exactly.excellently put

NoThanksNeeded · 06/09/2025 15:48

how to deal with bullying in the workplace
Men don't get bullied in the workplace?

Women liked having a safe space to chat and discuss their issues
Online is not a safe space. Online anyone could be anyone. Even if this site was 100% just for Mums then childless women or men could lie/fake details and access it. Cyber attacks could release anyone's details. Heck even governments could demand details.

Youdontseehow · 06/09/2025 15:22

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:05

If my DH was posting on a board named “mumsnet” it would be a major ick for me - him thinking women need his opinion on anything.

but it's not a female forum, so is it a ick for a man to post of a forum?

Why do you think anyone need your opinion then? (or anyone's opinion?) By definition a forum is a conversation, why can't people put their opinion on there?

And if he was asking a question, or trying to help, would that be a ick too?

Very bizarre attitude.

To me it is a women’s forum. Only women can be mums. Just like only men can be dads. The clue is in the forum name.

Women’s and men’s experiences differ significantly biologically, culturally, socially and emotionally. Women are not one homogeneous group but our experiences are shaped and shared as a result of the way in which society is constructed and how we understand experience is a result of that. Women seek out the opinions of other women because of these shared experiences and understandings.

Men can never understand women’s experiences because they are not women and are not consciously and subconsciously subject to the societal forces which women are. So for example, I might ask my DH’s opinion on a range of subjects like where to go on holiday, what to have for dinner, which sofa to buy. But I would not seek his opinion on what coercive control looks like, how to deal with bullying in the workplace (although I’d want his emotional support) or the best way to deal with menopausal symptoms, as examples.

You might want to do that, other women might want to do that, but I don’t. I can’t stop men from posting and I would respond to a man if I felt like it - I do draw distinction between genuine men asking for advice (and like I said before, I get embarrassed if there’s an unjustified pile on) and those just generally pitching in with advice in response to women’s issues/concerns. That does give me the ick.

MN might now be “for parents”/anyone but it didn’t start out like that. If it was “Parentsnet” and aimed equally at women and men, I’d bet my last dollar that it wouldn’t have been as successful. Women liked having a safe space to chat and discuss their issues - given as many as 1:4 women have been victims of SA, many women are understandably cautious and downright afraid of men. The male voice almost always dominates when a space is shared because we live in a patriarchal society.

At the end of the day this is my opinion - that’s it - just my opinion. But sometimes I just want to scream “FFS just let us have something just for us - stop always having to encroach on women’s spaces!”

Zov · 06/09/2025 11:49

EchoedSilence · 05/09/2025 20:37

One pervy PM is one too many. The men who think they can just send their disgusting PMs to women on here can fuck off.

I have mine locked out. No-one can send me any. Probably a good idea to do that (the people who are getting unwanted PMs.) A bit annoying as nice, decent posters can't get to you message you, but if someone said to me (on the forum) 'hey Zov I want to PM you about something,' I could PM them, and then they would be able to message back. (I think.) I not, If could release the block for a few minutes.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 06/09/2025 11:33

I have mixed feelings about men on mumsnet.

I do think that they've joined a space designed and set up by women because it's much easier than setting up their own space, but mumsnet themselves state that it is for all people, parent or not, male or female, and it's their site, their rules. Some of the men are here exactly for the purpose of supporting women, so this is the right place to be for them.

I think there are actually some really good male members of mumsnet, who contribute to discussions really well, educate themselves on topics, and really care.

What I don't care for is the "as a man" type comments/posts. Nor the endless posts about "my wife won't have sex with me, we have 5 kids, she's a stay at home mum, I'm the breadwinner so why shouldn't I be out playing golf all weekend and then not get my congratulatory blowjob" type posts. I just choose not to engage with them, but wish others would see it for what it is too, and also choose not to engage with them.

GingerPower · 06/09/2025 11:28

The strapline is 'by parents for parents'.

I'm seriously doubting that all of the posters in the feminism section have kids given by how sexist they are - no way a man is going anywhere near some of them! They love to talk about how men commit majority of sex crimes but never once will you hear them mention that women commit the majority of child abuse.

Digdongdoo · 06/09/2025 11:19

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:17

Missing the point much?

no-one said it was a MALE forum, who said you couldn't have what you think are female threads? And all the male working in the fashion industry might disagree on that one, but whatever.

If all these threads I screenshot scream FEMALE to you, care to tell us what areas are MALE only? I am curious.

I don't think I'm the one missing the point.

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:17

Digdongdoo · 06/09/2025 11:11

One of those is a thread about women's clothing sizing and another is about a man demanding sex from his female partner. Screams female to me. But whatever.

Missing the point much?

no-one said it was a MALE forum, who said you couldn't have what you think are female threads? And all the male working in the fashion industry might disagree on that one, but whatever.

If all these threads I screenshot scream FEMALE to you, care to tell us what areas are MALE only? I am curious.

Digdongdoo · 06/09/2025 11:11

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:08

Current active threads...

These don't scream FEMALE ONLY forum to me, or am I missing something? You'd think as a female I should have received the memo that all of these are protected female issues 😂

One of those is a thread about women's clothing sizing and another is about a man demanding sex from his female partner. Screams female to me. But whatever.

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:08

Current active threads...

These don't scream FEMALE ONLY forum to me, or am I missing something? You'd think as a female I should have received the memo that all of these are protected female issues 😂

men on mumsnet
BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:05

If my DH was posting on a board named “mumsnet” it would be a major ick for me - him thinking women need his opinion on anything.

but it's not a female forum, so is it a ick for a man to post of a forum?

Why do you think anyone need your opinion then? (or anyone's opinion?) By definition a forum is a conversation, why can't people put their opinion on there?

And if he was asking a question, or trying to help, would that be a ick too?

Very bizarre attitude.

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:03

thebabayaga2025 · 06/09/2025 07:12

Absolutely 100 percent agree. I would NEVER post on a site called Dadsnet, no interest at all. Decent men don't post here, so right away as soon as I see it's a man I assume he's a pushy wanker.

decent men don't post on .. where?

A forum talking about anything and everything, including parenting/ kids behaviour/ kids activities/ kids gifts...

So according to you decent men are not involved in parenting, must stay well out of the kitchen/laundry room./ and anything that has the word "mum" in it, and we stay in the kitchen while they go to work, is that it? 😂

Are you one of these women I've seen in real life, strongly objecting to men going to baby groups and baby clinics, how dads dare being involved with their own children?

NoThanksNeeded · 06/09/2025 10:30

I going to assume anyone who thinks "I know this poster is a man because of what they say" are the same people who "can always tell" and harassment non-conforming women in bathrooms

NoThanksNeeded · 06/09/2025 10:28

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You are the one that sound stupid

You cannot treat women as one giant thing which thinks and experiences everything the same

Just like you can't say that all black/Jewish/Asian/Muslim/Gay/etc people have the same issues and think the same

NoThanksNeeded · 06/09/2025 10:23

thebabayaga2025 · 06/09/2025 07:45

Nah. There are two sexes, and they have different concerns and ways of looking at things. Women of ALL races, cultures, ethnicities have the SAME concerns worldwide. Women of ALL races, cultures, ethnicities are welcome on sites built by women, for women.

Yes all women in the UK are worrying about FGM, not being allowed to go to school or work, being forced into marriages as a child, legally being raped, dying from childbirth because the medical facilities aren't adequate...

White, Christian, straight women all have to worry about racism, religious discrimination, homophobia...

Not withstanding the fact the site is openly FOR everyone