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LittleMi55Nobody · 05/09/2025 16:40

ladies..just wondering..are you fed up of men posting on mumsnet..why don't they start their own "dadsnet/mansnet" group..im getting fed up of obvious "male" comments undermining our woman issues....quite honestly id like them to fuck off cos im not interested in their opinons on womanship

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Digdongdoo · 10/09/2025 12:29

40YearOldDad · 10/09/2025 11:47

Again, I could be anyone. Would you believe me more or less if i said i was a 26 year old woman from France now living in the UK as a Man, or is my username enough to condem me?

Never once did i say or imply i was a victim, A victim of what I'm not sure.

I'm saying, sometimes it's not how good the advice is, if it slightly differs from what they want ot hear or their views, it must be a man giving the advice. I see loads of posts on here stating just that, and then posters have to come back and say, Yep, I'm not a man, all because they have slightly differnt views and some posteres have a hard time accepting or just acknoewledging that, shock horror, that people of the same sex may have different views to them.

Unless I'm mistaken this is a public forum, i follow the same rules as everyone else, however i dont ever remember one of my posts being taken down by MN due to breaching MN rules, of which there are many on this very thread.

I'm happy for anyone to call me out or have discussion with me on anything i post. I dont edit my posts, if something is pointed out to me and my view, opinion or an apologiy is required I'd post it direct on the thread.

You've posted as a dad and a man numerous times. You are a man.

Women are allowed to disagree with you because you are man. Men and women do not ever have the same life experiences - I am entitled to dismiss your views on certain topics because you are a man if I want to.
Only men think that maleness is irrelevant.

newire · 10/09/2025 12:24

DoinFineIThink · 10/09/2025 12:22

I'm the opposite as in I like to get a wide range of opinions from everyone.

I seem to be bombarded with men's opinions in every other area of life and so I like that mumsnet is the mostly a female perspective.

DoinFineIThink · 10/09/2025 12:22

newire · 10/09/2025 12:05

It's an open site but to be honest I come here to hear what women have to say and am not that interested in male opinions in this forum. As if we didn't have to listen to men enough in life!

I'm the opposite as in I like to get a wide range of opinions from everyone.

40YearOldDad · 10/09/2025 12:20

5128gap · 10/09/2025 12:04

Whether the advice you or anyone else gives is 'good' is (unless it's on a matter of fact, not opinion) subjective. Generally when advising on a subjective topic you will get mixed reactions, with some people thinking its good advice and some not. You are making an assumption that people don't like your advice BECAUSE they think you're a man from your user name; when it's just as likely they dislike your advice AND think you're a man from your user name. It's quite arrogant of you to think your advice is so good the only reason women may disagree is because you're a man.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. I don't care if people agree or not, but when they disagree and cite the very reason is because I'm a man ( or other posts as seen all over MN), that's a different story. At that point, it's not an assumption; they have directly stated their reasons.

Don't agree with me or my viewpoint, absolutely fine, I don't agree with theirs, but I'd not say I don't agree with them because of their sex - just because I have a different opinion on something, doesn't mean I'm correct and doesn't mean they are wrong.

Opinions are like arseholes, we all have one, but some people should really keep theirs hidden.

newire · 10/09/2025 12:05

It's an open site but to be honest I come here to hear what women have to say and am not that interested in male opinions in this forum. As if we didn't have to listen to men enough in life!

5128gap · 10/09/2025 12:04

40YearOldDad · 10/09/2025 11:47

Again, I could be anyone. Would you believe me more or less if i said i was a 26 year old woman from France now living in the UK as a Man, or is my username enough to condem me?

Never once did i say or imply i was a victim, A victim of what I'm not sure.

I'm saying, sometimes it's not how good the advice is, if it slightly differs from what they want ot hear or their views, it must be a man giving the advice. I see loads of posts on here stating just that, and then posters have to come back and say, Yep, I'm not a man, all because they have slightly differnt views and some posteres have a hard time accepting or just acknoewledging that, shock horror, that people of the same sex may have different views to them.

Unless I'm mistaken this is a public forum, i follow the same rules as everyone else, however i dont ever remember one of my posts being taken down by MN due to breaching MN rules, of which there are many on this very thread.

I'm happy for anyone to call me out or have discussion with me on anything i post. I dont edit my posts, if something is pointed out to me and my view, opinion or an apologiy is required I'd post it direct on the thread.

Whether the advice you or anyone else gives is 'good' is (unless it's on a matter of fact, not opinion) subjective. Generally when advising on a subjective topic you will get mixed reactions, with some people thinking its good advice and some not. You are making an assumption that people don't like your advice BECAUSE they think you're a man from your user name; when it's just as likely they dislike your advice AND think you're a man from your user name. It's quite arrogant of you to think your advice is so good the only reason women may disagree is because you're a man.

5128gap · 10/09/2025 11:50

DoinFineIThink · 10/09/2025 09:55

You don't know who is male or female on here though.
Half the time people get called a man just because someone thinks they don't post or think like a woman should (whatever that means 😁) and so they must be a man. Gets pretty tiring and boring pathetic after a while.

MRAs do tend to be men. Though I accept there may be the occasional woman who for some reason believes the rights and safety of men are under threat from women and/or the rights of men should be front and centre.
If any of the MRA posters are in fact women, I'd really be interested in what motivates them as women to be MRAs. Unfortunately they never give that perspective and tend to just say the same things as the men.

40YearOldDad · 10/09/2025 11:47

Digdongdoo · 10/09/2025 11:04

You are a man and you do have male privilege and male views. That you sometimes try to hide makes you manipulative, not a victim.

Again, I could be anyone. Would you believe me more or less if i said i was a 26 year old woman from France now living in the UK as a Man, or is my username enough to condem me?

Never once did i say or imply i was a victim, A victim of what I'm not sure.

I'm saying, sometimes it's not how good the advice is, if it slightly differs from what they want ot hear or their views, it must be a man giving the advice. I see loads of posts on here stating just that, and then posters have to come back and say, Yep, I'm not a man, all because they have slightly differnt views and some posteres have a hard time accepting or just acknoewledging that, shock horror, that people of the same sex may have different views to them.

Unless I'm mistaken this is a public forum, i follow the same rules as everyone else, however i dont ever remember one of my posts being taken down by MN due to breaching MN rules, of which there are many on this very thread.

I'm happy for anyone to call me out or have discussion with me on anything i post. I dont edit my posts, if something is pointed out to me and my view, opinion or an apologiy is required I'd post it direct on the thread.

Digdongdoo · 10/09/2025 11:04

40YearOldDad · 10/09/2025 10:39

It's an interesting thing, I happen to post under a male username, people seem to think that this then gives them the right to say male privilege and my views are one sided. Yet, under a different username, with the same views, I'm applauded.

It's not necessarily the advice or opinion that is given, but the person (or who they believe) that the advice comes from, that people seem to have a problem with. For all you know. I'm a 26-year-old single woman with a quirky male user name, much like someone with the username Unicorn5648948 is not a unicorn.

You are a man and you do have male privilege and male views. That you sometimes try to hide makes you manipulative, not a victim.

40YearOldDad · 10/09/2025 10:39

It's an interesting thing, I happen to post under a male username, people seem to think that this then gives them the right to say male privilege and my views are one sided. Yet, under a different username, with the same views, I'm applauded.

It's not necessarily the advice or opinion that is given, but the person (or who they believe) that the advice comes from, that people seem to have a problem with. For all you know. I'm a 26-year-old single woman with a quirky male user name, much like someone with the username Unicorn5648948 is not a unicorn.

ThatBlackCat · 10/09/2025 10:25

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 09/09/2025 12:23

Uh-huh. Come back to me when you can actually be specific in your criticisms rather than vague accusations.

Here are only two examples; you as a male calling women 'bitter'.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 03/09/2025 09:02
I cant believe that on this site of all sites, people think in this way. It is hilarious and sad.
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There's a lot of bitter women on here.

and

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 03/09/2025 09:48
"informal response" clearly being shorthand for "an offensive stereotype that's demonstrably untrue but is nevertheless common here because MN is full of bitter women".

DoinFineIThink · 10/09/2025 09:55

5128gap · 09/09/2025 13:47

This is true, I think. The threads where some form of controversy is created by MRA types popping up with some ridiculous notion tend to attract a lot of interest, as multiple women challenge them, and so encourage more participation than those where posters are largely in agreement.
They also make for an interesting read as we watch the MRA arguements annihilated by women. Though my preference on here is to hear the views of other women, those type of male posters do, stooge like, provide a springboard for some very useful contributions from women.

You don't know who is male or female on here though.
Half the time people get called a man just because someone thinks they don't post or think like a woman should (whatever that means 😁) and so they must be a man. Gets pretty tiring and boring pathetic after a while.

5128gap · 09/09/2025 13:47

GreenFlag · 09/09/2025 13:05

The bottom line is MN profit from more users so they are not going to exclude men. And any drama caused by them only increases the sites profile anyway.

It’s a win win for MN.

This is true, I think. The threads where some form of controversy is created by MRA types popping up with some ridiculous notion tend to attract a lot of interest, as multiple women challenge them, and so encourage more participation than those where posters are largely in agreement.
They also make for an interesting read as we watch the MRA arguements annihilated by women. Though my preference on here is to hear the views of other women, those type of male posters do, stooge like, provide a springboard for some very useful contributions from women.

AlertLimeZebra · 09/09/2025 13:30

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GreenFlag · 09/09/2025 13:05

The bottom line is MN profit from more users so they are not going to exclude men. And any drama caused by them only increases the sites profile anyway.

It’s a win win for MN.

LimbOnTheBranchBranchOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheBog · 09/09/2025 12:46

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 09/09/2025 12:23

Uh-huh. Come back to me when you can actually be specific in your criticisms rather than vague accusations.

I know you're on here because you expect women to do your emotional labour for you, but I would have thought you could search your own name, bless your cotton socks.

If you click the bit that says search on the bar underneath, then click on advance search, add your name, and then under the key words type in anything that could bring up misogynistic or derogetory behaviour on your part.

HTH.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 09/09/2025 12:23

LimbOnTheBranchBranchOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheBog · 07/09/2025 19:36

So you're going with "didn't mean it like that", solid, but predictable, choice.

Advance search your own name. The way you speak to women is very telling.

Uh-huh. Come back to me when you can actually be specific in your criticisms rather than vague accusations.

5128gap · 08/09/2025 09:43

florizel13 · 08/09/2025 08:29

That's probably because there isn't much discussion on Dadsnet, and sometimes men want a woman's opinion on something. I personally like to hear a man's point of view on some things, particularly on why a man may be behaving the way he is.

The only person who can tell you why a man is behaving the way he is is the man himself, surely? How can some random man on MN give you a reliable insight into the thoughts of another man who may be different from him in every way, age, social background, life experience?
What this tends to look like in reality is a man coming on to defend other men. To explain how difficult things are for men, and that the problems another man is causing a woman are actually the fault of the woman herself. The 'male perspective' is almost always this.

florizel13 · 08/09/2025 08:29

vinegarforeverything · 05/09/2025 16:43

Men always feel the need to intrude in to our spaces don't they. Decent men don't do it.

There is a Dadsnet but the interlopers prefer to make their voices heard here.

That's probably because there isn't much discussion on Dadsnet, and sometimes men want a woman's opinion on something. I personally like to hear a man's point of view on some things, particularly on why a man may be behaving the way he is.

ruethewhirl · 08/09/2025 04:36

NoThanksNeeded · 07/09/2025 14:00

I mean that was literally my point ... calling out the PP who had implied they didn't

Ah - apologies, I misread your post.

LimbOnTheBranchBranchOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheBog · 07/09/2025 19:36

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/09/2025 19:29

"Thought crimes" as in whatever it is you think is so telling about my alleged views of women but that you remain strangely unable to back up with evidence, let alone context.

Unless maybe you're trying to insinuate that me occasionally disagreeing with a given woman is evidence that I have a problem with women as a class, rather than just because I happen to disagree with one individual.

So you're going with "didn't mean it like that", solid, but predictable, choice.

Advance search your own name. The way you speak to women is very telling.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/09/2025 19:29

LimbOnTheBranchBranchOnTheTreeTheTreeInTheBog · 06/09/2025 21:54

I don't know what your "thought" crimes are, that's between you and whatever deity you believe in, but, as I say, your posting history is very telling.

Just search your name and key words, such as woman, and it's all laid out how you try and minimise and belittle women (such as your little "thought crime" dig, when, in fact it its all laid out in black and white).

I'm sure you're a nice guy, and you were provoked/didn't mean it like that/women can't take a joke though.

"Thought crimes" as in whatever it is you think is so telling about my alleged views of women but that you remain strangely unable to back up with evidence, let alone context.

Unless maybe you're trying to insinuate that me occasionally disagreeing with a given woman is evidence that I have a problem with women as a class, rather than just because I happen to disagree with one individual.

NoThanksNeeded · 07/09/2025 14:00

ruethewhirl · 07/09/2025 12:52

Do you honestly think men never get bullied in the workplace? Blimey.

I mean that was literally my point ... calling out the PP who had implied they didn't

ruethewhirl · 07/09/2025 12:52

NoThanksNeeded · 06/09/2025 15:48

how to deal with bullying in the workplace
Men don't get bullied in the workplace?

Women liked having a safe space to chat and discuss their issues
Online is not a safe space. Online anyone could be anyone. Even if this site was 100% just for Mums then childless women or men could lie/fake details and access it. Cyber attacks could release anyone's details. Heck even governments could demand details.

Do you honestly think men never get bullied in the workplace? Blimey.

NoThanksNeeded · 07/09/2025 01:46

AromanticSpices · 06/09/2025 23:58

When I go into forums that are predominantly men, I take a bit of care not to state that I'm a woman. I have found that this is fairly common in women, particularly after you've been 'online' for a while - nichey ones for music, comedy, cars, etc can often be pretty sexist. It's just not worth the shit you have to deal with.

I'm not 'posing as a man' but I'm not saying either way, and with men being the default human in most of our society (and women as these curious 'others') it's often assumed.

In most areas of the Internet I do try and adopt a persona with no direct reference to what my sex might be. It's easier