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Ablondiebutagoody · 2025-09-05T12:38:23+00:00

Angela Rayner, Labour Housing minister caught fiddling her stamp duty by £40K. Tulip Saddiq, Labour anti corruption minister suspended for corruption. Rushanara Ali, Labour Homelessness minster resigns after evicting tenants, upping the rent and re-letting the house. Andrew Gwynne, Labour Health minister gone after saying he hoped pensioner would die. Louise Haige resigned after fraud conviction. Likely super injunction regarding those three young men firebombing property linked to Kier Starmer. Keir next to go? Yes = not unreasonable (can't edit title typo)

Nevertrustacop · 05/09/2025 16:52

spoonbillstretford · 05/09/2025 15:04

I've always been a floating voter between Labour, Lib Dem, Green in general elections and I even voted for someone who is nominally a Conservative on the Parish Council as I liked her personally even if I didn't agree with all of her political views. I would never otherwise vote Conservative and clearly I'd never vote UKIP or Reform as they are an absolute bunch of arse.

I've never had a clear political home with any party but really don't get the hatred for Starmer other than that it feels completely manufactured. He seems a thoroughly decent man to me. This started on day one they got into office on Mumsnet before they had done anything.

People are just allowing themselves to be completely manipulated and that's what is really scary. The democratic process is being subverted by the far right and they are constantly trying to destablise the country.

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For what purpose? Why are people going along with it?

IGaveSoManySigns · 05/09/2025 16:50

hydriotaphia · 05/09/2025 16:48

I mean really, has anyone here ever instructed a tax KC when buying a house? Or even know anyone who has? Mad to think that this should have been on her mind.

Nope. I don’t think calculation of SDLT is even tax advice. It’s just part of the transaction.

tara66 · 05/09/2025 16:49

He's a lawyer not a leader.

hydriotaphia · 05/09/2025 16:48

I mean really, has anyone here ever instructed a tax KC when buying a house? Or even know anyone who has? Mad to think that this should have been on her mind.

IGaveSoManySigns · 05/09/2025 16:45

Let’s not forget the number of tories who have done far, far worse things and got celebrated for it.

Farage bought a house in his girlfriend’s name to get first time buyer status and avoid stamp duty entirely.

Rayner took tax advice and was misled.

hydriotaphia · 05/09/2025 16:44

I feel bad for Rayner. MANY laypeople just accept their conveyancer's calculation of stamp duty, even if there is some small print that they are not giving tax advice. I really doubt she was trying to con HMRC - for one thing she wouldn't throw away her career for £40k.

KioraKiora · 05/09/2025 16:40

We can only hope OP! Awful, spineless clueless excuse for a PM.

SeagullSam2027 · 05/09/2025 16:37

PeonyPanda · 05/09/2025 16:25

Completely agree. I think he’s great. There are plenty of idiots around him, and I hate the power the unions hold over him, as I think he’s a clever, well qualified PM and if we let him get on with it he’ll steer a steady, moderate path.

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He's been allowed to 'get on with it' for over a year and has failed dismally. He's weak and utterly lacking in any kind of leadership skills. Failing to deal with Rayner has highlighted just how incompetent and spineless he is.

PeonyPanda · 05/09/2025 16:25

spoonbillstretford · 05/09/2025 15:04

I've always been a floating voter between Labour, Lib Dem, Green in general elections and I even voted for someone who is nominally a Conservative on the Parish Council as I liked her personally even if I didn't agree with all of her political views. I would never otherwise vote Conservative and clearly I'd never vote UKIP or Reform as they are an absolute bunch of arse.

I've never had a clear political home with any party but really don't get the hatred for Starmer other than that it feels completely manufactured. He seems a thoroughly decent man to me. This started on day one they got into office on Mumsnet before they had done anything.

People are just allowing themselves to be completely manipulated and that's what is really scary. The democratic process is being subverted by the far right and they are constantly trying to destablise the country.

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Completely agree. I think he’s great. There are plenty of idiots around him, and I hate the power the unions hold over him, as I think he’s a clever, well qualified PM and if we let him get on with it he’ll steer a steady, moderate path.

rubicustellitall · 05/09/2025 16:25

It is the stuff dreams are made of OP. Oh to see the back of that man would be a great day.

SeagullSam2027 · 05/09/2025 16:18

Reeves should be the next to go. The pressure is already building.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 05/09/2025 16:14

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:48

It's just the soundbites isn't it? They have a couple of catchy lines but that's it. You try and engage further and you just get the same lines regurgitated back at you.

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Along with it's not far right..it's just right.
That one can piss right off as it's a mantra repeated by bozo's that don't have a clue.
I use the term extreme far right to distinguish the difference between legitimate right wing politics.

jeaux90 · 05/09/2025 16:14

I want Wes. He seems pretty normal and actually has some class analysis about him.

CagneyNYPD1 · 05/09/2025 15:22

How about the money that was siphoned off by the Tories and their cronies during Covid. The dodgy fast track lanes, dodgy PPE deals, billions wasted. That’s the money I want tracked down.

Yes, AR has been foolish. She should have sought proper tax advice. But her foolishness pales into comparison with previous Ministers/ Secretaries of State and their rinsing of the country.

HelpMeGetThrough · 05/09/2025 15:13

Ablondiebutagoody · 05/09/2025 14:39

Rachel Reeves

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🤣🤣

BurntBroccoli · 05/09/2025 15:06

ShesTheAlbatross · 05/09/2025 14:41

I actually don’t think he’ll resign anytime soon, nor do I think the Labour Party will get rid. But, if he were to go, I’d guess maybe Yvette Cooper, or Wes Streeting.
Streeting is very young to be PM though, he’s younger than Cameron was (although only by a year), and he was the youngest PM in about 200 years.

I’m not commenting on how good either of them would be. I just don’t see any other high profile Labour MPs who could possibly be elected leader. I don’t think they have a wide pool of realistic possibilities!

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Yvette Cooper as leader would be a massive mistake (and I’m a Labour supporter).

spoonbillstretford · 05/09/2025 15:04

I've always been a floating voter between Labour, Lib Dem, Green in general elections and I even voted for someone who is nominally a Conservative on the Parish Council as I liked her personally even if I didn't agree with all of her political views. I would never otherwise vote Conservative and clearly I'd never vote UKIP or Reform as they are an absolute bunch of arse.

I've never had a clear political home with any party but really don't get the hatred for Starmer other than that it feels completely manufactured. He seems a thoroughly decent man to me. This started on day one they got into office on Mumsnet before they had done anything.

People are just allowing themselves to be completely manipulated and that's what is really scary. The democratic process is being subverted by the far right and they are constantly trying to destablise the country.

BurntBroccoli · 05/09/2025 15:03

Mistyglade · 05/09/2025 14:35

@BurntBroccoli thanks for this info👍🏼

Yes it’s a nice reminder isn’t it! Surprising how you forget.

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:48

MoFadaCromulent · 05/09/2025 14:45

Are there people actually believe the two tier stuff or is it all just to build a momentum/picture in the public mind that can be repeated?

If there are on what basis?

It's just the soundbites isn't it? They have a couple of catchy lines but that's it. You try and engage further and you just get the same lines regurgitated back at you.

MoFadaCromulent · 05/09/2025 14:45

Are there people actually believe the two tier stuff or is it all just to build a momentum/picture in the public mind that can be repeated?

If there are on what basis?

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:42

He surely at least deserves the same amount of scrutiny and leeway as the last government.

So no, he's got a long way to go before he has to leave

ShesTheAlbatross · 05/09/2025 14:41

WitchesofPainswick · 05/09/2025 14:32

And replaced with....?

I actually don’t think he’ll resign anytime soon, nor do I think the Labour Party will get rid. But, if he were to go, I’d guess maybe Yvette Cooper, or Wes Streeting.
Streeting is very young to be PM though, he’s younger than Cameron was (although only by a year), and he was the youngest PM in about 200 years.

I’m not commenting on how good either of them would be. I just don’t see any other high profile Labour MPs who could possibly be elected leader. I don’t think they have a wide pool of realistic possibilities!

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Ablondiebutagoody · 05/09/2025 14:39

WitchesofPainswick · 05/09/2025 14:32

And replaced with....?

Rachel Reeves

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Mistyglade · 05/09/2025 14:35

@BurntBroccoli thanks for this info👍🏼