Angela Raynor - a thread for sane centre left/lefties

There’s no guarantee that anybody better would be elected

Ah but I think this is it - the £40k surplus is a huge amount of money for her.

You are misguided about who ‘the rich’ are.

The total tax on the new property would be more than her entire annual salary after tax.

Yes.

I'm not a Rayner fan but think this has been blown way out of proportion. Any normal person would think the house belonged to her son, I know I would! I don't blame her for not thinking to raise it when buying a house for herself. I don't think she needed to go for this mistake but the furore made it inevitable.

Agree that dickhead and co need to wind their necks in and hold themselves/be held accountable to the same standards.

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Thinking the press might go after Farage with the same vigour? Yeah you're right

I’m gutted. I “e-met” her on a small Zoom call once and she was amazing. Warm, very articulate and very competent.

But then you can't get on your high horse and preach about morals when it comes to someone else.

If you are a Trump/Johnson/Farage supporter then you have no place in this conversation criticising Rayner. No place at all.

As evidenced by voting for the Tories led by the serial adulterer and industrial scale liar, Boris Johnson.

Whilst agreeing that resignation was the correct thing to do, there has been double standards when compared with the Tories. Several of whom should have faced criminal charges- for example Nadhim Zahawi had avoided/evaded an amount of tax of a similar scale similar to that which Lester Pigott did, who went to prison.

Reform of course!

Go Nige! He’s the man we all need to save Britain!

It really hasn't. Especially if you look at social improvement.

Genuinely sad that AR has resigned
However this was an entirely predictable event. She (stupidly) participated in a tax evasion. I mean it was foreseeable that if a prominent politician saves £thousands it will inevitably be scrutinised. I appreciate she is not wealthy and at the time wasn’t in govt, but nonetheless it was an entirely predictable event

Let’s see if tax dodger farage gets the same focus

Angela is my MP. I thought she was brilliant and would champion the working class given where she’s come from but have been bitterly disappointed (this scandal being just the tip of the iceberg). I can’t say I care too much who comes next. It will no doubt be more of the same. Someone who will go along with this Tory (not so) lite version of politics this so called Labour government is dishing out.

But he’s not taken her down, assuming you mean Angela r, she did that to herself.

I have a lot of respect and admiration for what she's achieved and has overcome. But WHY are they all so stupid to do stuff like this and think they'll get away with it??! They never seem to learn from those who went before and came a cropper. Idiots.

This exactly.

The thing is people forgive trump / farage as they don't really care about their morals. The don't vote for them because they are good. They vote for them because they promise more money,

Yep this. The Tory party since time immemorial has been the standard bearer of sleaze (defined in the dictionary as sordid, immoral or corrupt behaviour), so pretty much covers all bases. To say nothing of their inhuman and self serving policies. Angela Rayner called them scum, I agree. How fucking dare they point any fingers.

I wish that everyone and all the papers would shut up about MP's houses and scandals forever. I don't care. I actually don't give a shit that Raynor tried to be sneaky about tax. They're all dodging tax in one way or be another because they're all rich and that's what rich people do. And I really don't understand how this is front page biblical news when Mr Toad was over in the US being a literal traitor and shoving himself even more firmly up President Fart's arsehole.

Clever you.

I assume under Labour rules that the deputy will now have to be a woman. First and foremost for me will be whether she knows what a woman is. That might exclude Cooper for me as she has an activist son. I will be looking for a steer from Labour that they are steering away from the trans gravy train.

TBH I think her departure is a good thing for Labour in general.

She is widely disliked outside of Labour, and I think represents a side of Labour a lot of middle ground voters don’t like.

I think she has achieved a lot though and faced a lot of misogynist and classist abuse over the years, so sad to see her go over something like this (acknowledging she’s in the wrong…!)

I wonder if now facing the insane taxes the well-paid classes are, she’s had any change of thought about the fairness of them. She’s always been so pro ‘the rich’ being rinsed, but she’s one of them now and is… trying to avoid paying punitively high tax.

This has shocked me - but only because I would have thought that after going for the Tories and their sleazy antics over tax etc etc she would have made sure that she was whiter than white.

She should have made absolutely sure that what she was doing was correct. Am I naive in thinking that she thought she was doing the right thing when all along….she knowingly wasn’t?

Is she that stupid?

Great pity. She showed great determination to overcome a difficult background and achieve high office. It’s a particular blow to housing as she was driving that agenda against Treasury and had the strength to stand up for the policy. There will be an election for Deputy Leader now. Lisa Nandy’s name is being mentioned already.