Angela Raynor - a thread for sane centre left/lefties

I think she gets the negative publicity she does because she's a working class woman and obviously it's very bad news that's she's achieved what she has from that background as far as they (and weirdly, even many WC people) are concerned.

But, she's been very stupid about this, must have known it would come out and should have taken the very best advice before, not after.

She had to go, but hopefully she'll be back.

I'd guess there are very many Conservative MPs whose trust arrangements wouldn't stand up to such close scrutiny, and we know Farage's tax arrangements are dodgy. He knows we know and doesn't care.

We don't need a general election. We need major electoral reform with proper proportional representation (not that shite excuse for it offered by the coalition).

We urgently need to move away from this adversarial and polarising system and start having a more rounded and representative parliament.

We should be hearing more from the Lib Dems, the Greens and other minority parties. It shouldn't be the case that people feel their vote is being wasted by voting for anyone other than the two main parties.

If you own more than one property you're rich. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Full stop. And as I said I don't care. I don't care if she dodged some tax. I'm behind her getting sacked if thats what needed to happen. It was very naughty, tut tut. But it shouldn't be front page giant news in every paper.

Really good distraction this, while Farage (who is also a rich tax dodger) is plotting how best to sell the country to Putin's bestie. Why wasn't his stupid gurning face on the front covers with TRAITOR across it? He is ignoring his duties in order to bad mouth us and encourage sanctions!

I think there's something inherently worse about someone going on about how they came from nothing, had all the odds stacked against them, believed in making it better for 'people like me'...

...and then goes and does this and tries to dodge the system for tax.

She was advised to get proper tax advice but ignored this.

It's going to be a huge disappointment for those who thought she was the future of the party and would make genuine changes in a way that someone from a comfortable background couldn't replicate because it carries an extra sense of betrayal.

She's done so much damage to Labour it's difficult to quantify. It plays into the hands of Farage perfectly.

I actually do feel desperately sorry for anyone who put faith in her.

It pisses me off and I'm not anywhere near as too the left as her.

Yes. It’s the elephant in the room.

Unless you're au-fait with trust law and the published SDLT legislation, I don't think your knowledge would help much should you find yourself in a similar situation.

Raynor probably thought along much the same lines, which is why she finds herself in this situation.

They're all at it, but yes, I would love to know the latest on Michelle Mone's frozen assets and what happened to the rest of the Tory MPs and advisers who got contracts for their cronies.

Thanks for the thread - I can’t deal with another Faragy one either.

I’m sorry to see her go but she was an idiot to think she could get away with this and it’s a mess.

I’d like to see such diligence by the media into Farages financial affairs seeing as he’s got so much to say. I guess the line between tax avoidance and evasion is a thin one.

Whatever the tone of the other threads, if I knew the law on second homes, and I'm a single mum, no wealth, no political job, then I'm sure she did. I liked her but she's the housing minister for God's sake. So she had to go.
Sad. It's hard to fathom she did anything so foolish.

Yes I feel the same

I do not have high expectations of Farage, or Johnson a number of self serving MP's. Its the hypocrisy

And why Starmer is stating in his letter that she is a trusted colleague I don't know as she clearly is not

Problem is, when you’re in such a prominent position, you can’t afford not to get it right!

Let's hope she doesn't need to rent one of those houses. She will soon see what tenants these days are capable of...

But Labour have done nothing to tax these people with offshore accounts. They are literally int he driving seat ploughing through people listed with HMRC rather than the ones with all the backseat money and power. Of course he won't be caught, because Labour went for the easy fruit hanging from the middle classes tax tree rather than putting in work to get the big bucks from the big guys.

Are we actually surprised she’s confirmed as a bit dim, though. Very disappointing, not actually a surprise.

I agree but she was the person trying to introduce more taxes not fewer

Thank you. I think my head exploded all over the last one.

I wish they had actually planned how to tax the super rich before getting into power. If they had done that AT ALL we would have Farage on a spike and this likely wouldn't have been such a huge focus.
She's a bit dim for allowing this to happen though, really.

Everyone expects it from farage and the type of people who vote for him don't care. Rayner put herself on a pedestal of morality, taking down 'fat cats' etc so for her to behave that way feels worse to me. I feel let down, I have zero expectations of farage et al and wouldn't vote for them

It’s been little over a year. Screeching for a GE is so irresponsible. It costs a fortune for a start & means we start all over again. The government has made mistakes but the catastrophe of 14 years of the Tories was never going to be quick & easy.

I remember when he tried to fire her before and she refused to be fired iirc 😭😭

I don't remember this. Sounds like fun.

Agreed!

I'm not really bothered by whether she left or stayed.

I am REALLY annoyed by the level of misinformation in the press about how simple trust law and SDLT is (spoiler: it's not).

I was just as irritated when the Duke of Westminster died and all the red tops were banging on about how his son didn't pay any inheritance tax (because the trusts pay it you absolute bloody idiots) to whip up the masses.

And here's old Nige for you: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

no fucking way

So that Reform can get in? Have you read their manifesto? Its absolute pie in the sky.
What are your thoughts about Richard Tice’s comments about parents getting EHCP’s so their children can get free transport?

Im really disappointed with AR, she should have been absolutely watertight. But the way she has been hounded is pure misogyny and classism.

i despair for our country right now, I really do.

The irony of your username.