Angela Raynor - a thread for sane centre left/lefties

She would be subjected to enhanced due diligence/risk assessment but I doubt she would get a different level of advise herself as taxation rules remain the same, whether PEP or not.

If your first line means more debt then check out France and the speech by Bayrou today.

I think we'll have to. Unless you invest as @Worriedrelative said we will just go more and more into decline. We need to invest in so many fields that just aren't getting investment like science, pharmaceuticals, green industries, nuclear that will lead to jobs not to mention in public services like adult skills, as well as things like people to check tax and benefit fraud, visa fraud etc. Part of the reason we are in such a mess is because nothing was done by government for so long, while the Tories were mired first in Brexit then endless leadership elections that everything else was just left to drift. Without investment we will never get out of the doldrums. We have an ageing population who are only going to get less productive and more dependant on social care yet at the other end we throw our brightest young people on the scrapheap of no jobs, little chance of getting getting onto the housing ladder and little chance of ever paying back their student loans.

What do you want to do re debt? Increase it?

We're in a mess due to years of austerity and under investment in public services. Not because of the spending/borrowing of the last year.

You have fallen for that Thatcherite economics, which so many in this country take as absolute gospel.

We are in a mess but further cuts won't dig us out.

We should look more towards Keynesian economics and how the USA climbed out of the great depression.

Franklin D Roosevelt didn't cut public services or benefits. He implemented the New Deal which focused on job creation, social security, financial reforms, agricultural support and expanded workers rights.

I never really liked her but warmed to her when I saw the right wing media start to scalp hunt her because she was in a position of power after a very working class upbringing. I think they’ve hounded her out for much less than their preferred darling Tories/reform politicians have done. It was straight out bullying. I think/hope she’ll be back after a suitable quiet period

Yes I think many genuinely are ignorant of the public finances. We really do need increased taxation and a massive cut to benefits, neither of which will be popular. The NHS needs a complete overhaul and trimmed of nonsense policies, layers of management and 'nice to have' services rather than core medical and rehab treatment.

Allowing people to exist on benefits for decades is an absolute disgrace. In some families 3 generations.

I have to agree. Terrifyingly many people are ignorant of the financial situation the country is in, we are on the brink of a Greece style collapse

and people on here moaning they benefits are better than work so they’ll give up work!

You are deluded. If every other party was so great, why is our country in a worse mess now and we are not in flipping covid. Labour are borrowing more and more, setting our country up for another financial disaster.

Is that a man who wanted the vaccine so he could have unprotected sex?
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Labour and Angela Raynor in particular were so critical of the tories, to the pettiness of curtains in no 10, to the detriment of more important political issues.
She avoided tax at a time when her party want to tax people who are already struggling and in way well off. £500k property does not constitute well off in the south east, most houses are that money which means crippling mortgages and crippling travel costs if you have to work in London. So pretty ill judged and horrendous for labour from a PR perspective

Nah, I am not a Labour voter but EVERY other party knew what should be being done, the Tories just tuned everyone else (including professionals) out. Tories don't get a pass on the deaths and chaos they caused by not tracking COVID and pushing it into care homes. Sorry.

But we don’t actually know how Labour would have dealt with the Covid crisis. Let’s be honest, if Raynor was capable of spending a huge amount of her sons compensation money as a deposit for a second property, I dread to think what they might have done.

Yes, I bet there's a link to this vaccine no one said we needed.

Yes I am not sure on him either. The biggest investment seems to be in male health - still no new midwives, nurses not being funded to train, female health getting worse and waiting lists longer. No new innovations other than giving vaccines against gonorrhea, which, while nice for people who have a lot of unprotected sex, does rather limit how useful it is and arguably not something many will "benefit" from if it means they continue having unprotected sex potentially passing that and worse on to others. I'd rather he helped women's issues like maternal health where women and babies are dying far too regularly.

Didn’t she get legal advice? Did she really lie?

Praying F doesn’t get in. People have forgotten Brexit. I think we all use the NHS and F wants to get rid of it.

My only concern about Streeting is his links with private health care and how he has been funded by them - what are they expecting in return?How private health has invested in Wes Streeting | Good Law Project

This is particularly interesting when you see stories like this Health Secretary signals support for more private investment to fix the NHS | The Independent

Even as an experienced legal professional who has an interest in a property that is on trust the rules are obscure.

I will advise people to consider a trust and signpost them to specialist trust and tax advice but that's it. I know the circumstances they are worth considering but would be negligent if I did more than suggest someone seek further advice.

For my own situation I went to a specialist estate planning solicitor qualified to advise on trusts and tax because I know it is complex.

"Everything was done proper" quote from AR in an interview a few days ago. Couldn't even use the correct grammar.
I would have like to see Brigit Philipson as her replacement. Brigit is from a working class background, think she was on free school meals in her youth, she is so dignified and eloquent compared to AR. KS did not want to see AR leave, and yet he was ruthless with Rebecca Long Bailey, MP for Salford who now stands as an Independant, Corbyn and Abbott. Wonder why that is?
Quite like Jess Phillips too, she has a quick wit, she seems to have fallen out of favour lately though.

No, I can’t bear Lammy. Just wrote a long post about why and decided it was too rude to upload 😂 But basically, I’m glad DPM is a bullshit job with absolutely no power attached.

No one failed to give her correct advice within their remit. She didn’t follow the advice to go to the appropriate people. It’s all on her.