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To feel sad watching all these kids going to school

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Artvanderrlay · 05/09/2025 10:15

and wondering what sort of world they are going to enter when they turn 18 or 22.

I am sure many will excel but I fear a large number will end up financially insecure for most of their life.

When I graduated all those moons ago, I joined a graduate scheme, nothing fancy like investment bank, law or consultancy, it was with a well known high street retailer and I was earning around £23k, but many of my fellow grads were homeowners in their mid 20s, and their financial security is almost exclusively down to purchasing a property when they were so young.

A friend, who joined my scheme 3 years before me, purchased a flat in W12 for £240k in the early 00s. Her father was a postie and her mother worked part time in a supermarket, so the purchase was driven solely by her. She sold the flat this year for £800k, having rented it out for almost 15 years.

She is going to use the money to get her children onto the property ladder as soon as possible.

I was able to purchase my first flat 2.5 years after finishing university. A similar flat recently sold for £500k. There is no way I would have been able to do that now, and it terrifies what is going to happen to all these kids when they try to make their way into the world.

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Butchyrestingface · 05/09/2025 11:31

She sold the flat this year for £800k, having rented it out for almost 15 years.

Pity your friend didn’t share your concerns for the next generation.

KimberleyClark · 05/09/2025 11:25

Jc2001 · 05/09/2025 11:14

I remember them saying the same thing about computers in the 80s. Everyone was going to be replaced by a computer. It didn't happen. Instead it created a whole industry and transformed and created jobs instead of destroying them.

They also said that computers would give us more leisure time. That didn’t happen, Computers enabled employers to employ fewer people and work them harder.

CoffeeCantata · 05/09/2025 11:25

sundayfundayclub · 05/09/2025 10:39

It's refreshing that you can recognise how difficult things are for the young.

I try not to think about my dcs future!

I think you're right. Of course we need to be aware of developments and not bury our heads, but really, we can only live in the present and do our best in the moment to keep our options as open as possible.Just because the world is changing in frightening ways isn't a reason to stress our youngsters out. They need a healthy youth if they're going to be well-prepared for the adult world.

I remember years ago, when dinosoaurs roamed the earth and I was at school and we were told that in the future we'd all have much more leisure because of automation. That's not really happened for most people - those in work seem to work really long hours and then many people have no work.

People need to work and pay taxes to keep our welfare state, health service and infrastructure going. If we're all going to be laid off and our jobs taken over by AI, how exactly is that going to happen? Too scary to think about.

Let's enjoy the September sunshine...seriously.

TouchOfSilverShampoo · 05/09/2025 11:23

I wish my MIL could see this. She bought a house when she was 20 (50 years ago) for about £15k and still lives there. Apparently it’s now worth £500k.

Despite the fact I’m just about to (finally) push the button on a new house after YEARS of slog and saving and working my tits off for a forever home “I didn’t work hard enough” because I had a holiday once five years ago.

SomeLikeitSnot · 05/09/2025 11:19

I try not to be negative as I find it so unhelpful. Children are resiliant and adaptive. Life will be very different but it could be amazing. AI to help with the boring stuff, we could have come out of a recession/bust and be in a boom as they graduate. Theres no point dwelling on the past and being negative we need to be positive. DH and I are v prepared to move into a flat to release equity when we are older for deposits if needed. We will help them consider job sustainability etc when choosing degrees/career choices. We will teach them to see the wider world but also appreicate how lucky we are in the UK in many many ways.

Jc2001 · 05/09/2025 11:14

surreygirly · 05/09/2025 10:21

I agree.
AI will destroy jobs that kids who do not have specialist skills do now - ie admin clerical etc
There is not one career that will not be affected even lawyers surgeons pilots etc

I remember them saying the same thing about computers in the 80s. Everyone was going to be replaced by a computer. It didn't happen. Instead it created a whole industry and transformed and created jobs instead of destroying them.

notanothernamechangemother · 05/09/2025 11:11

Yanbu I feel sad for young people today, including my dc. I don't know what the future holds for them. With the rise of AI and job loss on the horizon I don't whether it's a good idea for my dd to apply to university, despite being bright and motivated. I fear there may be no job and a lot of debt for her. It's makes me sad 😢

Lyocell · 05/09/2025 11:08

I really commend you for recognising this. So many people of the generation who profited from property will not acknowledge that. Most like to think their good fortune is because of working harder than others rather than just the economy at the time.

ImAPreMadonna · 05/09/2025 11:07

If you don’t see the connection between your friend renting out a flat for 15 years (and making around £600k profit), the housing crisis and the possibly future of today’s kids who may not have the Bank of M&D to assist, then words fail me.

sundayfundayclub · 05/09/2025 11:05

well that's what i'm encouraging my dc to do (they have Euro passports) but not great for the ones left behind.

Finteq · 05/09/2025 11:03

They need the skills to leave this country.

There will always be jobs for people who are motivated and think outside the box.

But they are not limited to a life in the UK.

Artvanderrlay · 05/09/2025 10:45

Pissenlit · 05/09/2025 10:41

Maybe you need to reconfigure the centrality of home ownership to what constitutes a decent life.

If 60% of your salary is going to a commercial landlord, who has converted an office block into 200 tiny flats, and you don't have enough money to move out, then your going to be pretty miserable.

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Pissenlit · 05/09/2025 10:41

Maybe you need to reconfigure the centrality of home ownership to what constitutes a decent life.

sundayfundayclub · 05/09/2025 10:39

It's refreshing that you can recognise how difficult things are for the young.

I try not to think about my dcs future!

surreygirly · 05/09/2025 10:21

I agree.
AI will destroy jobs that kids who do not have specialist skills do now - ie admin clerical etc
There is not one career that will not be affected even lawyers surgeons pilots etc