To think this is a really awful thing to say? Tw

Oh what a shame 🙄
You begrudge one trip, my son can't access most things due to his disabilities
And your upset your daughter can't go on one trip becsuse she doesn't have SEN have you heard yourself?

Actually no. That would presume that all kids with send are ND and that's far from the truth.

Typical on its own is fine in most cases.

The dictionary definition of atypical is
‘not representative of a type, group, or class’.

The dictionary definition of abnormal is ‘deviating from what is normal or usual, typically in a way that is undesirable or worrying’.

That’s quite a difference.

Well to me atypical sounds exactly the same as abnormal. I really can't see what makes one word unacceptable and the other not. It doesn't make a blind bit of difference if normal people are called normal or typical.

Neurotypical. It’s not that difficult, maybe google it

Normal may not be offensive, @Buxusmortus, but it puts you in mind of its opposite, abnormal, which certainly is.

TYPICAL is the word usually used. Atypical is a far more neutral term than abnormal.

(I’ve used capitals as typical has been mentioned numerous times on this thread already but some aren’t picking up on it.)

oh shush

If you can't use the word "normal" which word can you use to refer to people without special needs?
The meaning of normal is "pertaining to the majority" so that would be an accurate description of the majority of children. I can't see why it's offensive. If a child has additional needs then they clearly aren't normal. I have diabetes so my health is not normal, it's abnormal, what's the problem with stating the reality of the situation.
Normal is not an offensive word, it's not as if I'm going around calling people with extra needs any of the many extremely offensive words which exist.

😂

Do you not feel sorry for her best friend, that she may have a lifetime of difficulties due to her SEN?
It’s one bloody trip. If your daughter wants to go to her ‘favourite place’, then take her. Her life isn’t going to be affected by missing a trip.

No not at all, just for super young naive primary kids. I am very severe adhd myself, but great at masking it, so i understand the struggles it’s had on my life and if I had had help a lot sooner I do think my life would have been different as I would understand my life choices. I suppose I just felt sorry for her as her best friend went on the trip and she couldn’t as she wasn’t SEN.

They do not get 'special' treatment or extra opportunities, they are sometimes granted support (financial and/or otherwise) in order to try to put them in a similar position to that of a child without their additional needs. In terms of DLA, the highest level of mobility allownace plus care component is under £750 per 4 weeks, and a child may not necessarily qualify for both elements, or the highest level of both elements. You can rightly be pissed off that the Government doesn't value education and teaching enough to actually invest money in it, but I think your apparent anger at families who qualify for additional help is unfair and misplaced.

You don’t see it offensive that by referring to your dc as normal you are inferring dc with SEN or any neuro divergence are ABnormal?

it’s not about being normal or abnormal is it. Having dyslexia or adhd or ASD doesn’t make someone ABNORMAL.

do you think calling someone a retard is ok too? Is it pandering to the always offended crowd not to use that term?

I think you just have to accept that some people are a bit thick, not because they have any additional needs but because they’ve never needed to / tried to consider life outside of their own sphere unless they’re looking for someone to blame for their own dissatisfaction with life.

Do you feel the same when special activities are organised for young carers? Do you think they should organise a separate event for non young carers?

I don’t think it deserves a trigger warning and I don’t worry if people use it because they usually just don’t know that ‘typical’ or ‘typically developing’ are the terms usually used.

That said, the opposite of normal is abnormal and there’s more than a whiff of the pejorative about that. I understand why typical is the word usually used by professionals and families of children with additional needs.

Yes sure there will be for both SEN and non SEN. Just think making such a segregation when so young just isn’t good for either child.

There are loads of things that will be ‘unfair’ to the children with SEND over their life times.

I heard a (very obviously ND) teenager in a shop today saying 'I'm not diagnosed, I'm peer reviewed' 🤣

I don’t think I would use the term, but the term is accurate- typical, standard, usual or expected? I don’t think it means someone with SEN is lesser-than, just that they are ‘non-typical’ hence having special educational needs or disabilities?

I understand that, my daughter probably will have adhd also, it just felt unfair to the non sen children. As my daughter does make a really effort to get on with all children including Sen, she’s really caring and I have taught her to be understanding of SEN children and everyone is different, it just didn’t make sense as the children mainly get on well and help each other. Think it just segregates the children and highlights differences, but not in the right way.

Fundamental misunderstanding of discriminatory.

Disabled children miss out on so many trips and opportunities. I will probably never be able to take my disabled children abroad, if they went to mainstream school I wouldn't want no children to be able to go abroad.

I'm sure you can find a way to explain it to your child. Although, maybe you won't be able to explain it, If you think it is the same as having a 'non-SEND' only trip. An equivalent would be the difference between a social group set up for the handful of black or minority ethnicity children in a class versus a 'white children only' social group.

I mean, I’d swap all the extra trips in the world for my child not to have SEND.

hmm it was very discriminatory towards non SEN children. I am ADHD myself so I can explain it, just seemed an odd school trip, there is no ‘none SEN’ school trips, where they can just be without the SEN children.

It wouldn’t even slightly offend me to hear someone comment on normal children. Although nowadays a child without some kind of SEN seems to be in the minority. How did that happen?