To think this is a really awful thing to say? Tw

If that’s what you meant, why didn’t you say that? Instead of your revolting diatribe about having SEND ‘rammed down your throat’?

You are misconstruing what I have said. I have said in following posts..
People may mis use terminology all the time, it doesn’t mean they are bad people. That was my point, which you didn’t seem to grasp.
people become too overly sensitive when they might misuse terminology, and as I said if it isn’t meant to be malicious then I don’t see a problem. Yes it may not be accurately described and could come across as uneducated (mostly for other terminologies though)
but in my experience I don’t think people mean harm.

Apparently that's hilarious 😐

Your first comment was very nasty @OnetwoThree123456.

The whole world doesn’t have to suffer because of their problems etc etc

Just because someone was talking about preferred terminology. It’s an overreaction and completely unsympathetic. Not ideal in someone working for the NHS.

Absolutely not… but thank you for your silly comment!! It made me laugh!! lol

Well that's the NHS for you don't worry, they will soon have more newer terminology to ram down your throat
When I worked in the NHS,we went through various terminology phases at one point everyone was cascading information and escalating incidences
And signing off Emails with kind regards.

Never said it furiates me at me…. Im just saying to people like OP….Get over it. People may mis use terminology all the time, it doesn’t mean they are bad people. That was my point, which you didn’t seem to grasp.

I think you're in the wrong job then.

Find another job then, if the sheer existence of some of your service users frustrates you so much.

I work in the NHS so it’s rammed down my throat.
I also have children in preschool and school…. So you could say every day!!!!

So many reasons:

• twins
• close age gap
• eldest child has lower support needs, but second child has very high support needs (see this a lot - I believe I read an article once on the medical reasons behind this)
• first child's difficulties don't become fully apparent until later (usually due to rigid expectations at school)
• parents themselves are neurodivergent and their children appear typical to them
• first child was premature so parents believe all the disabilities are down to that and then find out subsequent children are also neurodivergent
• because they want to and enjoy their children and thank God we don't prevent people with disabled children having more children because that would be eugenics
• contraceptive failures.

You are being judgemental @Osirus.

I had no idea DC had autism when he was little. It was obvious in hindsight, but I didn’t know anything about autism then. We had two more children before he was diagnosed four years later.

Unless you work with it, or live with it, how often does it actually get rammed down your throat? How often have you had to “suffer” because people with disabilities exist?

It depends really doesn't it I know various families with more thsn one disabled child,
The first family the oldest son is severely autistic, his there not much of an age gap between him and his middle sister and she waa born before his disabilities were apparent she's NT
They decided to have a third child who appeared to be developing normally but is also diagnosed with autism her needs are not aa profound as her brother it's such a vast spectrum .

I’m not being judgemental, we’re all different, but I just understand why you’d choose to make your life harder.

My BIL had a middle child with autism and seeing their struggles was the reason I stuck at one child.

Did you know your existing child/ren had autism before you went on to have more?

I’m sorry you had it so hard, but I don’t think I would have had more children when I already had some with disabilities.

I found the various forms very difficult to fill out from an emotional point of view too. Felt like a betrayal of DC somehow, listing all the things he can’t do. Praying he never sees them. This is not what we wanted for him.

Get a grip.. not everything revolves
around with child with SEND needs or disabilities. Of course, they need to have full access to many specialist services and rights etc but the whole world doesn’t have to suffer because of their problems. Don’t ram it down our throats. Of course we need to be fully aware of disabled people in society and I fully appreciate it’s a challenging life having kids with disabilities, I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone. However, sadly. we don’t need to be reminded about this all the time, it is a minority of the population. There are ‘normal’, ‘healthy’ (whatever you want to call ‘us’) non disabled people who just want to get on with their life. Just don’t be so sensitive. Terminology changes all the time and as long as it’s not meant to be malicious who cares.

What's the preferred terminology? I can't keep up.

I refer to my older two as NT, if it comes up and my youngest as having SEN (youngest has global development delay due to a genetic condition)

I see lots of people on her saying their DC is SEND / SEN (as opposed to their child has SEND / SEN) so I'm not sure I even use the right terminology!!

Yes indeed ,I'm on a DLA Facebook group and I see people everyday putting in claims for very tenuous reasons, they rarely gey anywhere with them but it doesn't stop them applying.

I think it depends on needs of the person. ,neither SEN or ASN really cuts it for my son as its to broad a term imo, and can range from mild to profound I use severely disabled/ complex needs/ disabilitie for my son.

It doesn't work like that
You can't just phone DLA up an say hi my child has a diagnosis of ADHD ,please give me DLA at the highest rates thank you
And they say no problem
My son has been getting DLA since he was three he's severely autistic with severe learning disabilities, non verbal, challenging behaviour goes yo a school for children with severe and profound learning disabilities he was awarded MRC and LRM ( at five)
He does now get the highest rates becsuse I took it to tribunal and the Dr ,lawyers etc that made up the tribunal could clearly see with the EVIDENCE i provided ( from actual.professionals ) that he was severely mentally impaired. It's laughable people think it's so easy to cheat thr system.

That's much better. I can use that for my son. He's adult now so SEN doesn't really apply.
ASN is perfect, thanks.

This. It’s a disgusting attitude.

Some reasons (other than to actually offer similar opportunities to non SEND kids) WHY separate trips might be happening.

Funding for the trip is from a different pot.

Different ratio needs. For certain trips we NEED 7 staff members (for 15 kids) . That’s if everyone goes , if not , we need extra staff to stay behind . Only certain staff can go when there are additional medical needs due to specific training.

Different transport needs.

Targeted sessions for SEND kids which have limited times ,numbers , etc.

There are more trips children with SENDs miss out on , than trips they get extra.