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I don't know if I'm overreacting, older sibling left younger sibling

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ThePuffinMan · 04/09/2025 17:44

I have a tendency to overreact and catastrophize with my oldest, which I am working on but just wanted to get a sense check on this situation.

My DS has just started senior school, it's a bus ride away on the other side of the city. Bus stop next to the school and close to our house so not a difficult journey but DS isn't particularly travel savvy (ADHD and Dyslexia). His older sibling is in Y9 at the same school and I'd asked her to get the bus home with him for the first two weeks of term. Not sit with him or pay him on the bus, just make sure he gets on the bus and off at the right stop. I'd emphasized to both that this was temporary while DS gets his bearings, 1-2 weeks maximum. DD is single minded in that she tries to get the bus straight after school, so no chatting to friends, makes sure she has everything from her locker before last lesson and zooms out of last lesson quick as she can. I'd warned DS not to take too much time getting out of school but has also said to DD that obviously he might not be as quick, given he's so new.

Today is day 2, DD arrived home alone and said she had forgotten her phone this morning and didn't see DS at the stop so she didn't know what to do and just came straight home. I can tell by the time she got home she clearly got the bus which leaves a few minutes after school finishes so hadn't waited more than 5mins before abandoning DS. I panicked when I realised what had happened, DS wasn't picking up his phone and I didn't know if he would but waiting around school or the bus stop for DD or whether he would know to get on the bus without her. Long story short one of DDs friends saw him and realised what happened so she got the bus with him. All fine in the end.

I sent DD upstairs and haven't spoken to her yet, I am so disappointed she left him there. I think the fact she didn't even wait 5mins is awful. The buses come every 15/20mins so if you miss one it's not the end of the world.

I'm just curious to see how annoyed other people would be. It's only the second day and I had made it clear it wasn't going to be for long. She's not getting this early bus with friends as most don't get out in time. AIBU in being angry with her?

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CopperWhite · 04/09/2025 18:15

It’s not her responsibility. There will be other children similar to your ds who don’t have a big sister, and they manage fine.

Ddakji · 04/09/2025 18:14

Hairshare · 04/09/2025 18:12

You weren't unreasonable to ask her to do this for a couple of weeks and she's old enough to know she should do what she's agreed to do. I'd tell her that she was unkind to abandon her brother and ask if she can please be sure to get the bus with him for the next few days. And tell DS, in her hearing, that he needs to respect DD's time and be punctual. Also make a plan in private for what to do if DD leaves without him again, so you won't be so worried.

Old enough? She’s 13. Maybe only just. And is ND herself. Start of term is full on. Presumably she has her own routine that was disrupted.

And can we stop telling girls they need to be kind?

MyHangryLilacWriter · 04/09/2025 18:13

Back in 1976 my mother made the same request if my sister who was in whwtvwr would now call year 11. My sister pointed out to my mum that there had been no one to see her on to the bus when she was 11 and she had coped just fine and she felt I'd cope just as well. That was when there were no mobile phones. I think you are being unfair to your daughter. Your son needs to learn to cope for himself.

Hairshare · 04/09/2025 18:12

You weren't unreasonable to ask her to do this for a couple of weeks and she's old enough to know she should do what she's agreed to do. I'd tell her that she was unkind to abandon her brother and ask if she can please be sure to get the bus with him for the next few days. And tell DS, in her hearing, that he needs to respect DD's time and be punctual. Also make a plan in private for what to do if DD leaves without him again, so you won't be so worried.

Mrsttcno1 · 04/09/2025 18:11

Sirzy · 04/09/2025 18:02

You know she is autistic and has a set after school routine. I think it’s one of those situations where in hindsight it should become obvious that your plan probably wasn’t going to work.

This to be honest. She has her routine, it was never going to work.

Ponderingwindow · 04/09/2025 18:11

I suspected you were going to say she was ASD. The not being sure what to do because he wasn’t there when the bus arrived is exactly something my dd would have done at that age.

If her routine is to get on the first bus, it is extremely difficult for her to break that routine. Add in not being able to reach him because she doesn’t have her phone, and getting on the bus will seem logical.

this is one of those moments where you are just going to have to appreciate that it happened and talk to her calmly about what she might do differently next time. She really didn’t do anything wrong. She just made different choices than the ones you would have preferred.

WhatNoRaisins · 04/09/2025 18:10

Agree that I can well imagine for an autistic girl at secondary school that sticking to a routine can help her cope better.

ThrivingIn2025ing · 04/09/2025 18:09

She said she didn’t have her phone and didn’t know what to do. No I wouldn’t punish her. What I would do is ask if she was happy to continue the arrangement and explain what I would expect her to do if this happens again e.g. agree with both that if the other isnt at the stop by 4pm (for example) that’s when they head home alone.

To be honest I do the same as @Shitpeas, incentivise bribe my children to do things. If she had known she wouldn’t get a fiver at the end of the week she may have waited longer.

ARichtGoodDram · 04/09/2025 18:09

She is ND (autistic), diagnosed before DS.

I think it sounds like expecting her to change her routine was setting her up to fail really.

BogRollBOGOF · 04/09/2025 18:08

ThePuffinMan · 04/09/2025 17:59

She is ND (autistic), diagnosed before DS.

Yes, I did practice with DS over the summer. I was more worried he would wait for his sister as that was the plan, maybe he thought she hadn't come out yet and he would just wait, rather than him being unable to get home IYSWIM. Their school is not in a familiar area. I have spoken to him about the phone issue. He didn't call or check his phone as he knows it's only for emergencies on the school route. Because DDs friend saw him and said he should just get he bus with her he didn't really think it was an issue, he wouldn't have connected the dots DD would arrive before him and I would be worried, as far as he was concerned he was just getting the bus home.

I know it's not her responsibility hence letting them know it was for a week or two. She also was fine with the plan, generally no problems letting me know when she doesn't want to do something! If she had said she wouldn't wait I would have made sure DS knew to just make his own way home. It's more there was a plan and she has deviated because she didn't want to wait for 15mins.

DS1 (autistic) struggled with DS2's transition more than I anticipated. They'd been to the same primary school, but 2 years apart meant that DS1 definitely considered DS2's arrival to be an unwelcome invasion.

With autism in the equation, it can throw up some unexpected emotions that are hard to anticipate at the planning stage and the older child doubles down in their own routines and struggles with the flexibility to accomodate their sibling.

GagaBinks · 04/09/2025 18:07

I would be angry but I wouldn't prolong it. I'd speak to her and then move on.

WhatNoRaisins · 04/09/2025 18:06

I think whatever the rights and wrongs you might have to consider what to do if the arrangement doesn't work. If there are regular busses then I'd focus on teaching your son how to manage by himself and to just go at his pace and get whatever bus. If he can't manage the he needs more reliable help.

tripleginandtonic · 04/09/2025 18:05

My dc got off the bus in that exact same situation. Even though they found their younger sibling annoying.
Yanbu

Snorlaxo · 04/09/2025 18:05

Did an older sibling take dd home when she just started? I suspect that she didn’t really think it through when she didn’t object or did you take her lack of objection as acceptance? Is it possible that
someone made a comment about her brother and that’s why she’s legging it home? I don’t mean something negative btw, I mean if her brother isn’t there then other people won’t be talking about him sort of thing?

StillTryingtoBuy · 04/09/2025 18:04

Don’t be angry with her. She made a mistake and it doesn’t seem like she was being malicious. I think what this shows you is that she can’t make good decisions about what to do if things don’t go exactly to plan, as in she didn’t see her brother right away and made a bad call on how to handle that. Her autism is surely a factor, given she was happy to take on the responsibility. You could try to coach them through it, or make a new plan. A meeting point away from the bus stop maybe?

saveforthat · 04/09/2025 18:03

Yes YABU and overreacting. HTH

caringcarer · 04/09/2025 18:03

I think I'd just have made the comment she could have been a kinder sister and that one day sheight need her brother's help.

Sirzy · 04/09/2025 18:02

You know she is autistic and has a set after school routine. I think it’s one of those situations where in hindsight it should become obvious that your plan probably wasn’t going to work.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 04/09/2025 18:02

You need to take on this responsibility until he's capable.
DD has her routine, my daughter would wait on her Dbro in this situation.

LegoPicnic · 04/09/2025 18:01

It's more there was a plan and she has deviated because she didn't want to wait for 15mins.

She is autistic and you expect her to adjust the routine she’s built up over a couple of years because you’re more concerned about her brother? You do realise that it’s a bit more complex than “she didn’t want to wait” - her brother needed to adapt to her routine.

Ddakji · 04/09/2025 18:01

ThePuffinMan · 04/09/2025 17:59

She is ND (autistic), diagnosed before DS.

Yes, I did practice with DS over the summer. I was more worried he would wait for his sister as that was the plan, maybe he thought she hadn't come out yet and he would just wait, rather than him being unable to get home IYSWIM. Their school is not in a familiar area. I have spoken to him about the phone issue. He didn't call or check his phone as he knows it's only for emergencies on the school route. Because DDs friend saw him and said he should just get he bus with her he didn't really think it was an issue, he wouldn't have connected the dots DD would arrive before him and I would be worried, as far as he was concerned he was just getting the bus home.

I know it's not her responsibility hence letting them know it was for a week or two. She also was fine with the plan, generally no problems letting me know when she doesn't want to do something! If she had said she wouldn't wait I would have made sure DS knew to just make his own way home. It's more there was a plan and she has deviated because she didn't want to wait for 15mins.

So what if she was fine with the plan - she’s much too young to know if she can handle this kind of responsibility. Please don’t put responsibility for this on her (also ND!! Why were you thinking?!) just because she agreed to it. She doesn’t know what she’s agreeing to.

BotterMon · 04/09/2025 18:00

Jeez it's 2 weeks. Why can't she put herself out for him? She knew damn well if he wasn't on that first bus that she took then he'd be behind her phone or no phone.
Yes I'd be pissed off with her.

Shitpeas · 04/09/2025 18:00

I would be cross too. I think it's unkind of her to leave him on his 2nd day.

It's not like she's doing this forever, it's a favour for her little brother for a couple of weeks.

From experience though, if the older one is reluctant, it helps if you incentivise them to help out. For instance I pay my elder child to look after the younger one sometimes.

Glitterandmud · 04/09/2025 17:59

Hmmm... if ds can't manage to get the bus himself then you need to make provision for that, either get him yourself or organise with someone prepared to (and pay them accordingly), it's not your dds job, it would be nice if she offered but ds is your responsibility not hers

ThePuffinMan · 04/09/2025 17:59

TomatoSandwiches · 04/09/2025 17:50

It's not your daughters responsibility, she clearly does not want to do this either so you need to take the expectation off her.

Her rigidity speaks of her own possible ND issues you haven't picked up on as well.

Did you not do some practice runs with your son yourself?
Why did your son not answer his phone? He needs to be responsible for himself which means remembering to turn his phone on after school and ringer on.

She is ND (autistic), diagnosed before DS.

Yes, I did practice with DS over the summer. I was more worried he would wait for his sister as that was the plan, maybe he thought she hadn't come out yet and he would just wait, rather than him being unable to get home IYSWIM. Their school is not in a familiar area. I have spoken to him about the phone issue. He didn't call or check his phone as he knows it's only for emergencies on the school route. Because DDs friend saw him and said he should just get he bus with her he didn't really think it was an issue, he wouldn't have connected the dots DD would arrive before him and I would be worried, as far as he was concerned he was just getting the bus home.

I know it's not her responsibility hence letting them know it was for a week or two. She also was fine with the plan, generally no problems letting me know when she doesn't want to do something! If she had said she wouldn't wait I would have made sure DS knew to just make his own way home. It's more there was a plan and she has deviated because she didn't want to wait for 15mins.

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