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I don't know if I'm overreacting, older sibling left younger sibling

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ThePuffinMan · 04/09/2025 17:44

I have a tendency to overreact and catastrophize with my oldest, which I am working on but just wanted to get a sense check on this situation.

My DS has just started senior school, it's a bus ride away on the other side of the city. Bus stop next to the school and close to our house so not a difficult journey but DS isn't particularly travel savvy (ADHD and Dyslexia). His older sibling is in Y9 at the same school and I'd asked her to get the bus home with him for the first two weeks of term. Not sit with him or pay him on the bus, just make sure he gets on the bus and off at the right stop. I'd emphasized to both that this was temporary while DS gets his bearings, 1-2 weeks maximum. DD is single minded in that she tries to get the bus straight after school, so no chatting to friends, makes sure she has everything from her locker before last lesson and zooms out of last lesson quick as she can. I'd warned DS not to take too much time getting out of school but has also said to DD that obviously he might not be as quick, given he's so new.

Today is day 2, DD arrived home alone and said she had forgotten her phone this morning and didn't see DS at the stop so she didn't know what to do and just came straight home. I can tell by the time she got home she clearly got the bus which leaves a few minutes after school finishes so hadn't waited more than 5mins before abandoning DS. I panicked when I realised what had happened, DS wasn't picking up his phone and I didn't know if he would but waiting around school or the bus stop for DD or whether he would know to get on the bus without her. Long story short one of DDs friends saw him and realised what happened so she got the bus with him. All fine in the end.

I sent DD upstairs and haven't spoken to her yet, I am so disappointed she left him there. I think the fact she didn't even wait 5mins is awful. The buses come every 15/20mins so if you miss one it's not the end of the world.

I'm just curious to see how annoyed other people would be. It's only the second day and I had made it clear it wasn't going to be for long. She's not getting this early bus with friends as most don't get out in time. AIBU in being angry with her?

OP posts:
LandladyofTheValley · 06/09/2025 08:46

I feel very sorry for your DD. You sound like my mother who I went no contact with years ago. You sound like your only concern is your DS, not her. Her feelings aren't considered, just his.
Poor DD!
You may not mean to play favourites but it's how it comes across.

Threepeaks2025 · 06/09/2025 05:31

Do you work from home OP?

ItsNotMeEither · 06/09/2025 05:23

Honestly, I'd go gently with your older son. They're not a lot older and also thrown off by not having their phone. No punishment, but a chat to them about younger son only being 11 and being worried about them.

As a teacher, I totally understand why your older DS rushes to the bus. Where I am, bus behaviour is like a very bad zoo. I know bus travel is the only way for so many, but I'd honestly hate it myself. As you've noted, not many kids make it out in time for that first bus. That alone will mean that the first bus is a lot calmer than the one after it.

Some teens seem to revel in the 'lively' bus journey, while others would hate it. Pretty easy to guess which group your older son is in. I'd even suspect that he may be bullied or find himself a target of some 'jokes' on the later bus. This rush for the early bus may be less of a quirk and more about survival (at least metaphorically).

Reiterate the idea of the younger one getting home safely during the first few weeks, but don't go with any harsh punishments.

Also, remind younger son of the back up plan if they can't find their sibling or they're chatting to new friends and not fast enough, catch the next bus and text you.

pollymere · 06/09/2025 01:11

People with ASD are usually people pleasers. She may have externally told you it was okay whilst internally freaking out at having to catch the later more crowded bus. You need to consider her in this too, I'm afraid.

PaxAeterna · 06/09/2025 01:06

I think your expectation was fine. In a family we all watch out for each other. I think it’s ok to expect the older ones to show a bit of support to the younger ones. She also agreed to it.

However as you mentioned she is autistic, I wonder is she wedded to this routine of hers? I wouldn’t be cross but I’d sit down with her and try and figure out a plan that works better for her, like meeting elsewhere. Or is this later bus too busy for her? Or is she annoyed to be providing support that she didn’t get herself? I’d basically find out what the problem is, see if you can come to some solution.

PollyBell · 06/09/2025 00:38

It is up to you to organise this not a sibling

LIttleMissTickles · 06/09/2025 00:36

Wow MN is weird and cruel today to OP’s! Your expectation was perfectly reasonable OP and of course your YR9 can look out for her little brother for a few days. It’s not too much to ask and she agreed. I would also be annoyed but you will have to just have a chat with her and then let it go. But the reaction from people on here is cruel!

T1Dmama · 06/09/2025 00:36

Download Life360 on yours and his phone, just the free version works great!… it allows you to see where he is and alleviates worry.
if you and your children are all in the same family group on there they will also be able to see where you are and each other… so your DS can see whether his sis has already got in the bus or not and vice versa. The free version also alerts you when they leave it arrive home. I set it up when my DD did her Duke of edinburgh, and it was such a reassurance, especially as she has a medical condition, if I’d needed to it would take me to the exact spot where she was - a godsend!
Also great when we leave our phones home as the other can say ‘yep it’s at home don’t worry!’ …

As for your DD …. Chat to hee calmly over the weekend and ask if she could please wait for her DB… maybe suggest she just does it for a couple of days… but actually does she dash out and catch the earlier one because she can’t cope with all the other students being on the bus with her? Because maybe she really can’t cope with the later bus? Maybe one of your daughters friends can keep an eye out for a few days and thank her and give her something for being so helpful.

Sadworld23 · 05/09/2025 22:30

OneFootAfterTheOther · 04/09/2025 17:55

I gave DS1 an earful at the same age as he had found a lost Y7 (missed bus stop) with a dead phone. He had phoned the child’s mother but hadn’t waited with them until they were pick up (10 mins). I told him he could file that under could do better.

But at least he did do something, perhaps not to judge too harshly?

Kevintheelf80 · 05/09/2025 21:52

Of course she should have waited for him, I don't think that's too much to ask. She is his sister for goodness sake! I would expect even a friend to wait longer than 2 minutes then just sack off the arrangement. I'd be furious

Indicateyourintentions · 05/09/2025 21:46

It’s perfectly fine for siblings to look out for each other. Something to be nurtured I would hazard. Doesn’t mean a lifetime of servitude of one to the other.
You sound like a great mum.

Vanishedwillow · 05/09/2025 21:34

ILoveWhales · 05/09/2025 20:02

Well, she shouldn't have lied in her first post then should she.

Does it make a difference, then? Hmm…

Lovehascomeandgone · 05/09/2025 21:25

It’s not really her job is it, it’s yours!

ladyrushford · 05/09/2025 20:14

My own daughter has ADHD and Autism. I knew she wouldn’t cope with dealing with public transport at the start of year 7 so I applied for transport through the LA and got it. I think, OP, if you are really worried about your ND son coping with public transport then this is something you must look into as well. You might be able to secure something after Christmas as funding is allocated each term. This is assuming that your son has an EHCP in place to support his learning needs at school.

I also think you’re putting a lot of responsibility on your daughter’s shoulders to escort your son home. You’ve essentially parentified your daughter, and your reaction has communicated about how much pressure you’re placing her under. I’d reconsider the arrangement - or offer her an incentive? Not sure what that could be but I don’t think you should punish her over it. I also think you need to address with your son some responsibility here too - he needs to meet his sister by a set time otherwise she leaves. I’m not sure why she should be waiting for him?

ILoveWhales · 05/09/2025 20:02

Vanishedwillow · 05/09/2025 19:42

😂😂😂 are you serious?!! And FYI, OP has confirmed that both DC are boys.

Well, she shouldn't have lied in her first post then should she.

Vanishedwillow · 05/09/2025 19:42

GiveDogBone · 05/09/2025 18:59

Completely unacceptable behaviour. Your number one priority as a family is to look after each other.

Ignore the absolutely terrible parents who are replying that “she gets a choice”. She doesn’t. She does what her parents tell her to do.

Ground her for a week.

😂😂😂 are you serious?!! And FYI, OP has confirmed that both DC are boys.

AnaisVB · 05/09/2025 19:33

I don’t think I would be angry but just surprised if a little disappointed that they themselves didn’t feel the need to wait and check on their younger brother themselves. But maybe if they are on the spectrum that doesn’t necessarily factor for them.
I do think an older sibling should have a certain level of responsibility personally. I’m a middle child and would always look out for my younger siblings and my older brother and sister did for me, it’s natural. Would I be angry though no.

Discodance1988 · 05/09/2025 19:17

Id be more annoyed if she had disappeared on a primary aged sibling not one in secondary school. Sorry but you're being unreasonable. If your autistic DD can manage then so can your ADHD DS, unless his needs means he cannot use public transport alone then its on you not her to get him to and from school.

ILoveWhales · 05/09/2025 19:00

GiveDogBone · 05/09/2025 18:59

Completely unacceptable behaviour. Your number one priority as a family is to look after each other.

Ignore the absolutely terrible parents who are replying that “she gets a choice”. She doesn’t. She does what her parents tell her to do.

Ground her for a week.

Thankfully you're not her mother. Did you read the part where she's autistic too?

Who was looking after her when she first went to school?Nobody I bet.

SweatyAugust · 05/09/2025 18:59

As an aside I would put “find my phone” or 360 on his phone so you can see if he is on his way home.

GiveDogBone · 05/09/2025 18:59

Completely unacceptable behaviour. Your number one priority as a family is to look after each other.

Ignore the absolutely terrible parents who are replying that “she gets a choice”. She doesn’t. She does what her parents tell her to do.

Ground her for a week.

SirBasil · 05/09/2025 18:54

ThePuffinMan · 04/09/2025 17:59

She is ND (autistic), diagnosed before DS.

Yes, I did practice with DS over the summer. I was more worried he would wait for his sister as that was the plan, maybe he thought she hadn't come out yet and he would just wait, rather than him being unable to get home IYSWIM. Their school is not in a familiar area. I have spoken to him about the phone issue. He didn't call or check his phone as he knows it's only for emergencies on the school route. Because DDs friend saw him and said he should just get he bus with her he didn't really think it was an issue, he wouldn't have connected the dots DD would arrive before him and I would be worried, as far as he was concerned he was just getting the bus home.

I know it's not her responsibility hence letting them know it was for a week or two. She also was fine with the plan, generally no problems letting me know when she doesn't want to do something! If she had said she wouldn't wait I would have made sure DS knew to just make his own way home. It's more there was a plan and she has deviated because she didn't want to wait for 15mins.

so she's ND. How were her first 2 weeks of school? who made sure she got the bus?

but as with pp - it is unreasonable to make her his keeper. Find a better solution (you were home when she got in, why can't you go and meet him?)

catlover123456789 · 05/09/2025 18:54

Your older child is old enough to know if he agrees to something, he should do it. You asked for 2 weeks only, it wasn't a big ask. On day 2 he didn't even bother. Being ND is not an excuse and I am concerned that so many people think it is. If you let small asks go now, how will he cope in the real world? He needs some sort of consequence.

It's a good thing your younger child didn't wait for his sibling and just got the next bus, so it sounds like he is ok to do this alone, and he can call you if he gets intro trouble, so no need to rely on older child it seems!

ILoveWhales · 05/09/2025 18:54

BotterMon · 04/09/2025 18:00

Jeez it's 2 weeks. Why can't she put herself out for him? She knew damn well if he wasn't on that first bus that she took then he'd be behind her phone or no phone.
Yes I'd be pissed off with her.

You'd be p*** off with an autistic thirteen year old girl who's being given quite a responsibility to get another neurodiverse child home from school?

ND children often thrive on their routine and don't like to deviate from it.It helps them feel safe. Hell even nd adults like routine.

You're asking an autistic thirteen year old girl to not zoom immediately out of school and get straight home which suits her and wait around for a dawdling, eleven year old who doesn't know what he's doing.

I don't think you realize what a responsibility you're putting on her.

Vanishedwillow · 05/09/2025 18:50

ThePuffinMan · 04/09/2025 18:17

Yes, you're right. DS is capable of getting the bus and can do so on his own it's just our plan had been for them to be on the same bus for the start of term. I'm just more annoyed she made the plan and was fine with it and then did her own thing practically 1st chance. She has to pelt out to get the early bus (in fact she only manages to get it once or twice a week) so it's unlikely anyone on day 2 will manage that. If she'd said she would wait if the bus came before DS that would have been fine because I'd have just told DS to make his own way home.

As I say I was more upset DS might have been wandering looking for her because she said she would wait and didn't.

She’s still a child. A ND child at that - cut her some slack. Your DS is perfectly able to catch a bus on his own, and if he isn’t, YOU should be the one to facilitate his return.