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Dropping her T’s

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Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 10:51

My daughter has just gone into Yr1 and is an articulate child, relatively smart with a love for reading.

We moved her to a new school in the new year and have noticed since then she has started dropping her t’s when saying many of her words, like water, better, bottle, little etc.

This gets corrected consistently at home as although we don’t speak the queens English (and are not snobbish by any stretch of the imagination) we would prefer her to speak properly and not get into bad habits speech wise.

Over the summer holidays she was fine, but I’ve noticed in the two days she’s been back her speech has reverted back.

So here’s the AIBU - would I be unreasonable to mention this to her teacher? Or would I sound like a massive snob 🙈

Sounds dramatic but it’s even making me want to move her school again as this was not a problem at her old school at all. Its been a direct result of moving school as it started the week we moved.

OP posts:
EuclidianGeometryFan · 04/09/2025 12:12

Somnambule · 04/09/2025 11:40

Just let her speak! We're allowed to have accents now, she's not going to be held back in life if she doesn't speak RP. You do sound very snobby I'm afraid.

she's not going to be held back in life if she doesn't speak RP

I'd like to see some serious research on this point. (Not suggesting you should go and find a link, but it is an interesting issue).
I guess whether she is held back depends on what career and marriage she aims for.

StarlightRobot · 04/09/2025 12:12

@Thursdayschild2025 All ok with you? I don’t think the OP has painted herself in any of the ways that you describe. Your interpretation is a bit alarming

Obeseandashamed · 04/09/2025 12:11

I’m torn with this - I changed my son’s nursery because of accent/grammar issues. He came home saying ‘int instead of isn’t and in the , dodie (which I learnt meant dummy), mi instead of my, ya instead of you, owt and nowt and lots of other regional accent phrases. It wouldn’t bother me so much if it was from the children but all the staff spoke like that too and it was getting to a point where we were going backwards with his speech and sentence construction. If it wasn’t so significant and was just a typical regional accent thing like dropping T’s, it wouldn’t bother me.

FWIW my mum used to correct me as a child as at school I was told I spoke like a posh b*tch. I learn t to adapt and still speak differently depending on who I’m around. It’s a useful tool! It’s also scary how differently I’m treated depending on how I’m speaking 🥴

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 04/09/2025 12:11

Annony331 · 04/09/2025 12:08

Actually the teacher and staff should be modelling correct pronunciation regardless of any accent.

We have a few local pronunciation of words and staff know to use the correct sounds in class even if they slip back in the staffroom.

I would mention it and ask how school ensures words are correctly pronounced.

So you’re saying a Scot or an Aussie can’t speak in their own accent? 🙄

Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 12:11

Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 12:07

This is your retort? Good grief, woman. Ask mumsnet to delete this thread. You have utterly humiliated yourself and are digging a deeper hole with every pig-ignorant comment.

Edited

You sound very very worked up @Thursdayschild2025 . Seems as if you can’t handle another persons opinions.

I suggest you give mumsnet a break for a bit before you get too upset 😘

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CrostaDiPizza · 04/09/2025 12:11

@Thursdayschild2025 , There's no such thing as speaking properly.
There is. Enunciating clearly means better communication.
If the teacher isn't enunciating clearly, that affects your child's education.
Look at the spelling and grammar errors on sites like this one. Errors like except/accept, affect/effect have/of, council/counsel ...

Accent and dialect don't mean 'not speaking properly', not enunciating clearly does.

AnPiscin · 04/09/2025 12:09

Annony331 · 04/09/2025 12:08

Actually the teacher and staff should be modelling correct pronunciation regardless of any accent.

We have a few local pronunciation of words and staff know to use the correct sounds in class even if they slip back in the staffroom.

I would mention it and ask how school ensures words are correctly pronounced.

So as an Irish person, would I be required to pronounce words in an English accent or would my 'wrong' pronunciation be allowed?

Annony331 · 04/09/2025 12:08

Actually the teacher and staff should be modelling correct pronunciation regardless of any accent.

We have a few local pronunciation of words and staff know to use the correct sounds in class even if they slip back in the staffroom.

I would mention it and ask how school ensures words are correctly pronounced.

Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 12:07

Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 12:06

Aw, hit a nerve have I? Bless you

This is your retort? Good grief, woman. Ask mumsnet to delete this thread. You have utterly humiliated yourself and are digging a deeper hole with every pig-ignorant comment.

mrssunshinexxx · 04/09/2025 12:07

Definitely mention to the teacher. My 5 year old did this exact thing a few months ago and I couldn’t stand it I was quite strict with her and corrected it every time and praised her when she began speaking properly again, she goes to a private school so it hadn’t come from there it was bizarre !

Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 12:06

AnPiscin · 04/09/2025 12:01

So if I, as an Irish person, pronounce a word differently to you, who is 'right' and 'wrong'?

She's a parochial, small minded, ill educated nitwit. I actually don't think she is capable of understanding why she is so completely, totally and utterly wrong.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 04/09/2025 12:06

Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 11:58

I’m sorry but you are wrong. There ARE right & wrong ways to pronounce words.

You imply I’m a ‘social climber’ but you are also completely off the mark with that comment.

Right.

So if an Australian or Scot pronounces a word differently to you, are they automatically wrong?

Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 12:06

Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 12:04

I'm not sorry at all that you are wrong. You have painted yourself as a foolish, provincial, ill educated desperate social climber who will become a total embarrassment to your child if you keep doubling down on this nonsensical, farcical tripe.

I'm cringing with second hand embarrassment. Please, for the love of God, shut up.

Aw, hit a nerve have I? Bless you

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seratoninmoonbeams · 04/09/2025 12:05

@HoLeeFuk 😆🤣

Praying4Peace · 04/09/2025 12:04

Chill OP, all will be OK

Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 12:04

Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 11:58

I’m sorry but you are wrong. There ARE right & wrong ways to pronounce words.

You imply I’m a ‘social climber’ but you are also completely off the mark with that comment.

I'm not sorry at all that you are wrong. You have painted yourself as a foolish, provincial, ill educated desperate social climber who will become a total embarrassment to your child if you keep doubling down on this nonsensical, farcical tripe.

I'm cringing with second hand embarrassment. Please, for the love of God, shut up.

RubySquid · 04/09/2025 12:03

ClearFruit · 04/09/2025 11:57

Good God, is there nothing that doesn't apparently fall under the umbrella of 'the teacher's responsibility'? I have heard it all now.

Well tbh we had speech and drama lessons at primary school and would've been told off if heard dropping t or f for th

Sugargliderwombat · 04/09/2025 12:01

Is she in private school? It's obviously other children in her class who are probably speaking as their parents so, what would the teacher actually do? Completely blow those children's self esteem by going on and on about it to them? She probably does gently correct pronunciation but she cant dictate the accents of other children.

AnPiscin · 04/09/2025 12:01

Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 11:58

I’m sorry but you are wrong. There ARE right & wrong ways to pronounce words.

You imply I’m a ‘social climber’ but you are also completely off the mark with that comment.

So if I, as an Irish person, pronounce a word differently to you, who is 'right' and 'wrong'?

HoLeeFuk · 04/09/2025 12:00

PistachioTiramisu · 04/09/2025 11:59

OP I sympathise! I hate to hear people speaking and omitting the 't' sound in the middle of a word. It really grates on me. But of course, one is termed 'snobbish' if you dare to suggest that perhaps a child should be encouraged to speak properly!

"One is termed 'snobbish'"

😂

PistachioTiramisu · 04/09/2025 11:59

OP I sympathise! I hate to hear people speaking and omitting the 't' sound in the middle of a word. It really grates on me. But of course, one is termed 'snobbish' if you dare to suggest that perhaps a child should be encouraged to speak properly!

HoLeeFuk · 04/09/2025 11:59

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 04/09/2025 11:56

My friend's pathetic, racist dick of a husband specifically complained about Amol dropping his T's.

I think Amol is fantastic on University Challenge, much better than Paxman.

I've never had any trouble understanding Amol. It's a weird coincidence that only racists seem to have that issue.

beadystar · 04/09/2025 11:59

I live in Ireland and have strong feelings about t sounds! I would correct. It’s not snobby, it’s quite simply incorrect.
Aside. I had to attend a work meeting where an English person pronounced the th sound as an f and an Irish person pronounced the same as either a hard t or a d depending on the word. Meeting filled with glottal stops. Even I found it difficult to follow, heaven help a non-native speaker!

Stick0rTwist · 04/09/2025 11:58

Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 11:53

There's no such thing as speaking properly. That would imply that anyone who talks differently to your preferred speech patterns is speaking improperly, which is a profoundly ignorant notion.

Perhaps your daughter is trying to carve out a different identity from you, out of embarrassment at your extremely provincial mentality and desperate social climbing.

I’m sorry but you are wrong. There ARE right & wrong ways to pronounce words.

You imply I’m a ‘social climber’ but you are also completely off the mark with that comment.

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Samamfia · 04/09/2025 11:58

I'm from a very working-class Essex family, but for whatever reason apparently sounded 'posh' to some of my classmates in primary school and changed my accent to fit theirs. Went to a college where nobody else spoke like me, didn't fit in again and changed my accent to a more standard English. Now in my 30s I code switch according to who I'm talking to (like many people with my background who now have more middle-class jobs) and don't know which accent is the 'real me', which doesn't make me feel good about myself.
All very silly and unnecessary as it turns out there are loads of people, including company directors, in my field that speak in an estuary accent.

Be careful what you do with your daughter's identity. If she's changing her accent to fit in at school, and you don't like it, she'll just end up speaking differently at home to how she speaks there.

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