Dropping her T’s

Interesting.
What about people who migrate for life to a different English-speaking country? Such as to/from the USA, Australia, Nigeria, or South Africa.

There are those that have soaked up and adopted the local accent in a matter of a few years, and those who still have the exact same accent as their home country many decades later, their speech doesn't change at all.
Do you find the first group of people repugnant?

@AnPiscin , giro was girl. In some accents it sounds like giro.

In a similar situation a teacher offered me this explanation. They alter speech to fit in with their peers, the parents wince, later and with more maturity they can have two voices, one for the playground and one at home. Drawing attention can be counterproductive, keep modelling clear speech and encourage audiobooks etc with clear speech. Apart from that let it be.

I'm from NI where we have rhotic accents versus much of England which is non-rhotic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhoticity_in_English

Do you say far-mer or fa-ma?

Which is the correct way of pronouncing words like farmer?

This is likely a phase and will pass, probably quite quickly. My older two did this when they started P1 then stopped after a bit. No need to mention it to the teacher who will likely be pronouncing her ts correctly and frankly have bigger concerns. Just keep modelling it properly at home.

No, it would be an Irish accent, not sloppy speech.

Ha ha so true!

All the "oh ma dayyyyys" coming out of my 13yr old DD at the moment......

She'll stop eventually! 😂

That is true - it's not quite 'sh' - I don't think the sound exists in English English.

You do really sound pompous in your use of language. It makes you sound silly.

Stop with the insults too. It's unkind and uncalled for.

@Thursdayschild2025 , friend has a non-rhotic accent and slips into esjery out of laziness. Barf and bath have different meanings.

OP, speaking as a (former) teacher who taught in London with a pronounced Yorkshire accent - would you have expected me to reinforce a particular dialect at the behest of a parent?

It's a phase , it will pass. Honestly there is so much stress in life anyway, this is not worth worrying about. When my son was 6 he went through a phase of saying me instead of I because someone in his class spoke that way. It wasn't permanent!

Some accents omit/add letters... how do you pronounce castle? Doesn't have an 'R' in it, I don't pronounce it with an 'R', I know plenty of people who do, the difference is our accents.

So when Irish people say teme instead of theme, that's wrong?

Neither situation is worse, both are as bad as each other.

I have been guilty of "correcting" an ex BF who used to say "Smiffy" instead of "Smithy" as one of his friend's names. I remember finding it annoying how he didn't say "th" but then I realised it was how he spoke and pronounced sounds, so who was I to correct him? I thought about how I might feel if someone told me not to speak in such a well spoken way and how i might not like being "corrected".

I adopted a really stupid, ugly accent at school. But I did so to fit in and avoid bullying. Now I'm in my 40s I speak with a clear RP accent. Don't worry. It's a survival mechanism – like big teeth or camouflage. She'll ditch it once she has left/survived school.

It always surprises me when people object to those who change the way they speak. I love the refined RP accent. I love listening to Joanna Lumley and Stephen Fry speak. I had a bit of a West Country/Bristol accent, but I have tried to get rid of it. I don't care if people call me a snob. I can't bear the Bristol accent and was ashamed of it when I went to university. Why would I would to sound hideous when I speak?

(I don't dislike all regional accents btw. I like the Liverpool and geordie accents, for example, I just can't bear the Bristol one.)

Also, there’s a difference between having an accent and missing letters out of words.

giro - that is how unemployment benefit used to be paid many decades ago, i.e. short for giro cheque.😀
Not sure what word you mean.

likl is little.

I don't know the script that linguists use, so I can't explain it, but there is to my ear a huge difference between the Irish 'soft t' and the 'sh' sound at the end of a word like 'wish'. The tongue is in a very different place for each.

Oh dear, I am sorry you require Chat GPT to write comments. That's truly embarrassing for you :(

I told you I can't write it phonetically. Suffice it to say that Irish people generally pronounce a hard 't' in the middle of a word very differently to English people. My original question is whether that falls under poor enunciation or not.

The other noticeable difference is that Irish people tend not to pronounce a 'th' at the start of a word - hence the tendency to ask Irish people to say 'thirty three and a third.' An English friend of mine (who incidentally had a huge chip on his shoulder about not being posh enough for the uni he was at) had a second name that started with 'th.' I said it one day and he said, very disdainfully, 'could I have my th back please?' That really turned me off him as a person.

She's divorcing him, thank god.

Exactly the point. It's a dialect. I'm from Yorkshire but as an adult lived and worked in London for 15 years. It affected my dialect pronunciation but I reverted over time when I returned to the north; however, when talking to friends from London, I unconsciously become "glottal" again! I never larsted, farsted, etc though - my original dialect withstood that.