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AIBU to think this disciplinary is unfair?

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GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 04/09/2025 09:45

Hi all,

I'll try to keep this brief and stick to facts while keeping anonymous.
I have been at a company for 12 years. Never had a single bad word against me up until a week ago I was told I would be in an 'informal catch up' the next day due to lateness.
the informal catch up the next day was anything but that. I was told that I was possibly facing a disciplinary. I had no time to prepare, no examples of the lateness until the disciplinary. I got told days and times in the disciplinary but due to not being able to prepare I had no explanation. I did say there would be no unexplained lateness as I've never done that so I knew there's be a reason but as I had no examples of times I wanted to stick to facts.
I have been having IT issues which have been reported and tickets logged but nothing has been done.

I went away, videoed the IT problems which transpire that is causing the log in time to be later than I actually am logging in. I received the minutes back from the meeting and refused to sign them as they missed out crucial parts. For example, me telling them (that they know of) the IT issues that they are already aware of.
since then, I went away and was able to marry up log in times with IT issues on certain days (which they were also aware of) and have video evidence of this as well as internal call listener to, to IT.

I have offered and said I'd like to show my evidence now in the second meeting we had the other day. Not once have they viewed my evidence but are still 'discussing the chance of disciplinary.'
at no point did I receive a warning of this happening. Not once was I offered a witness. Should you be offered a disciplinary in the meetings leading up to the disciplinary?

the whole thing stinks quite frankly. I am looking to leave anyway. There have been many people who have disciplinaries in the last few months.

do I stand anywhere with this? I'm worried sick. I'm a single parent and actively seeking and interviewing for other jobs.

HR and my manager was in the meeting.

I have made them aware of every IT issue every single time. This seems desperately unfair. AIBU?

OP posts:
shiningstar2 · 04/09/2025 10:18

Are you in a union? If you are request union representation at your next meeting. If you are not in a union, in your position I would join one

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GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 04/09/2025 10:12

Radiatorvalves · 04/09/2025 10:09

Slightly off topic but I watched Mr Bates and the Post Office last night. There was never any acknowledgment by the PO that the computer system had issues…. And that led to 100s of unjustified prosecutions and worse. My point is that they need to be very sure that their system is working correctly. Is anyone else impacted? Can you prove you were on line or on a call when they say you weren’t?

Edited

Yes I have evidence and videos of the issues on my phone (which I sent to the tech team) but they don't want to view my evidence

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GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 04/09/2025 10:11

itsdisgusting · 04/09/2025 10:05

It's not right and sounds like they are trying to force you out.
It sounds like they have not made it a formal disciplinary yet? Has HR given you any response to the evidence you have provided? If not, email them and ask for one. Also ask IT for details of how they plan to resolve the issues. Do not let them think that you are being passive in this.

I'm sorry this is happening to you, being harassed like this is really unpleasant. It is also a long are arduous journey if you were to go to an employment tribunal, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

If you're already looking for a new position stay focussed on that and try not to get too down about this situation Flowers

I sent an email documenting that none of my evidence had been looked at and they just said 'we'll have another meeting.'

to which we did. And my evidence still wasn't looked at. They just said they need to go away and discuss disciplinary and I'll find out whether I have one next week.

should I have been offered a witness too?

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Radiatorvalves · 04/09/2025 10:09

Slightly off topic but I watched Mr Bates and the Post Office last night. There was never any acknowledgment by the PO that the computer system had issues…. And that led to 100s of unjustified prosecutions and worse. My point is that they need to be very sure that their system is working correctly. Is anyone else impacted? Can you prove you were on line or on a call when they say you weren’t?

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GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 04/09/2025 10:09

Thedoorisalwaysopen · 04/09/2025 10:06

This is a massive time wasting exercise.Talk about taking a sledgehammer to a nut and causing unnecessary stress.
Easier way to handle it:

Manager: OP, I see you have been logging in late the past X weeks
OP: I haven't boss, my computer system is clocking me as 15 mins after I am actually starting
Manager: oh dear, let's get the IT guys to look at that for you and we can update the system
OP: thanks boss

Sorted

That's literally what I've been doing for the past month.

I don't understand 😔

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Thedoorisalwaysopen · 04/09/2025 10:06

This is a massive time wasting exercise.Talk about taking a sledgehammer to a nut and causing unnecessary stress.
Easier way to handle it:

Manager: OP, I see you have been logging in late the past X weeks
OP: I haven't boss, my computer system is clocking me as 15 mins after I am actually starting
Manager: oh dear, let's get the IT guys to look at that for you and we can update the system
OP: thanks boss

Sorted

itsdisgusting · 04/09/2025 10:05

It's not right and sounds like they are trying to force you out.
It sounds like they have not made it a formal disciplinary yet? Has HR given you any response to the evidence you have provided? If not, email them and ask for one. Also ask IT for details of how they plan to resolve the issues. Do not let them think that you are being passive in this.

I'm sorry this is happening to you, being harassed like this is really unpleasant. It is also a long are arduous journey if you were to go to an employment tribunal, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

If you're already looking for a new position stay focussed on that and try not to get too down about this situation Flowers

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GucciTennisShoesRunninFromYourIssues · 04/09/2025 09:57

Bluevelvetsofa · 04/09/2025 09:49

From what you e said, it does seem harsh and I’d be documenting and reporting every minute IT issue from now on, as evidence.

You might have to accept it this time though and redouble your efforts to find another job.

Thanks.
it's just a hard pill to swallow for 12 years and not a single bad word against my name. It seems so unfair. They haven't even looked at any of my evidence.

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Bluevelvetsofa · 04/09/2025 09:49

From what you e said, it does seem harsh and I’d be documenting and reporting every minute IT issue from now on, as evidence.

You might have to accept it this time though and redouble your efforts to find another job.

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