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Shady Shae somewhat undermines antifas anti-Tommy Robinson message

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 08:03

Does anyone else know Shady Shae on social media? He seems to be a London-based, Nigerian-born youtuber. He seems to believe that immigrants should integrate with and celebrate the countries that they come to.

Anyway, the point. Around 22nd August give or take he posted a video on youtube called "Black Man Took the St George’s Cross to a Protest… What Happened SHOCKED Me!" He has posted plenty of similar videos before.

AIBU to ask those people who regard antifa-types as heroes fighting the fascism and racism of Tommy Robinson and the "hard left" to watch the video above and tell me what evidence of racism and fascism was on show? AIBU to say that there it is hard to see a crowd as racist when it is showing massive levels of love to a black Nigerian?

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JHound · 04/09/2025 14:48

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:42

Have you ever listened to him speak? Apologies if you already answered this question.

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What part of “I have no interest in….” are people struggling with.

Have I heard his voice? Yes. Several times. And I have no interest in him.

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:46

In fairness, the term P%&i is nothing more than a shortened version of Pakistani. Which is no different from calling someone Indian. It's seen as racist now and rightly so because of how it has been used and the negative connotations it holds.

hamstersarse · 04/09/2025 14:46

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 04/09/2025 13:25

Does this help you to get a sense of why so many people think this violent criminal might be racist?

https://resistinghate.org/yes-tommy-robinson-you-are-a-racist/

lol

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:45

Holy Classism Batman

Nothing classist about what I posted anyway. I am as working class as they come.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 04/09/2025 14:45

I'm surprised that it took a whole six hours before we got to the "...but what exactly does racism even mean?" stage. You're slipping lads. Usually you're there in three hours or less. Tommeh Ten-Names will be disappointed in you. No coke for you today!

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:44

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:39

Holy Classism Batman.

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Denying class is classist, just like denying what a woman is is sexist.

You cannot protect the rights of the WC, or women, unless you define them and understand them. HTH

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:42

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WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:42

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:41

Lovely.

You do you and I will continue to shun things I have no interest in.

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Have you ever listened to him speak? Apologies if you already answered this question.

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:41

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:36

You have absolutely every right not to be interested in him.

On the other hand - as someone who hates racism and hates the thought of even more national disunity - I believe that I need to listen to people like Farage and TR because they have massive support, and their popularity has only risen whilst they have been ignored and or demonized by the mainstream media. I believe that listening to the concerns of ordinary people, especially if they are majority views, is essential, otherwise we risk the genuine hard right or corrupt grifters like Farage gaining power.

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Lovely.

You do you and I will continue to shun things I have no interest in.

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/09/2025 14:40

JHound · 04/09/2025 13:50

  1. I have no interest in giving him views.
  2. A video can be edited however you want it to be.
  3. I would not be surprised if he had no issue because the Right loves Shields (it’s why they love people like Candace Owens and Nana Akua).
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This. The real test is if he moved in next door to them, or married their daughter. Carrying a flag like a useful idiot isn’t a sign of anything.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:40

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:36

He’s not “Far Right” and he’s not “Racist”.

What he is, is “Working Class” to the absolute core, with several mistakes made, in his youth, as he found his political feet, so to speak. He did a lot of stupid shit, as many working class people do, without the strong guard rails and increased opportunities & social/cultural capital provided by being born into the middle classes.

Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised. Is he perfect? No. He’s overly aggressive at times, but then he’s probably also living in a state of constant hyper vigilance which prompts reactive behaviours. He should probably get some therapy.

But make no mistake, TR’s or SYL’s, if you prefer, main crime is being born working class and being unapologetic about it.

That is my view.

"Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised."

100%.

Is he perfect? Do I agree with him on everything? No, no. Of course not.

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JHound · 04/09/2025 14:39

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:36

He’s not “Far Right” and he’s not “Racist”.

What he is, is “Working Class” to the absolute core, with several mistakes made, in his youth, as he found his political feet, so to speak. He did a lot of stupid shit, as many working class people do, without the strong guard rails and increased opportunities & social/cultural capital provided by being born into the middle classes.

Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised. Is he perfect? No. He’s overly aggressive at times, but then he’s probably also living in a state of constant hyper vigilance which prompts reactive behaviours. He should probably get some therapy.

But make no mistake, TR’s or SYL’s, if you prefer, main crime is being born working class and being unapologetic about it.

Holy Classism Batman.

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:39

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:31

I do not use that word because it has racist connotations.

I would need to see who said it, to whom, and in exactly what context before commenting further.

I think that the working classes in the UK are massively massively deminized by middle class liberals with university educations (I am one, but I try not to be a snob or classist), and I would not wish to criticize (for example) a white working class woman who spent her childhood growing up with kids of all races, all of whom, including pakistani kids, referred to the pakistani run corner shop as the p* shop.

I would also note that it is perfectly possible to say a racist thing and not be a racist.

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LOL!

Yes the “context” that makes referring to somebody as “P*ki” ok.

😆😆😆

And what is with this weird classism that constantly posits that casual racism is simply part and parcel of being working class while only
the middle classes can be expected to know better.

It’s a curious aspect of the British class system
where pretend to be working class defenders while condescending and patronising them.

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:37

Can I just check another thing? If being racist is racist, and hanging out with peopel with other skin colours is what racists do so as not to appear racist, how can I be sure that every single person on the planet isn't racist?

This.

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:36

He’s not “Far Right” and he’s not “Racist”.

What he is, is “Working Class” to the absolute core, with several mistakes made, in his youth, as he found his political feet, so to speak. He did a lot of stupid shit, as many working class people do, without the strong guard rails and increased opportunities & social/cultural capital provided by being born into the middle classes.

Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised. Is he perfect? No. He’s overly aggressive at times, but then he’s probably also living in a state of constant hyper vigilance which prompts reactive behaviours. He should probably get some therapy.

But make no mistake, TR’s or SYL’s, if you prefer, main crime is being born working class and being unapologetic about it.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:36

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:32

I have no interest in him.

I am not required to be interested in him. I feel no need to be interested in him.

The same you feel no need to be interested in articles that refer to “cultural racism.”

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You have absolutely every right not to be interested in him.

On the other hand - as someone who hates racism and hates the thought of even more national disunity - I believe that I need to listen to people like Farage and TR because they have massive support, and their popularity has only risen whilst they have been ignored and or demonized by the mainstream media. I believe that listening to the concerns of ordinary people, especially if they are majority views, is essential, otherwise we risk the genuine hard right or corrupt grifters like Farage gaining power.

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scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:36

It's not just white people who can be racist. I think that's a fact most people overlook. Dianne Abbot for one. That disgusting Narinda Kaur to name but two. And other cultures/races who are dead against their families marrying another other than their own race.

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:32

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:17

So you have no idea whether he is racist but as part of your attempt to understand the world he's another person who you will not listen to. Well done.

I stopped reading at "cultral racism" because the article was bollocks, and that was before it drifted off the subject (racism) and onto cultural racism

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I have no interest in him.

I am not required to be interested in him. I feel no need to be interested in him.

The same you feel no need to be interested in articles that refer to “cultural racism.”

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:31

Beychella4 · 04/09/2025 14:24

Would you consider referring to a random taxi driver as the “Little p*ki” to be racist OP?

I do not use that word because it has racist connotations.

I would need to see who said it, to whom, and in exactly what context before commenting further.

I think that the working classes in the UK are massively massively deminized by middle class liberals with university educations (I am one, but I try not to be a snob or classist), and I would not wish to criticize (for example) a white working class woman who spent her childhood growing up with kids of all races, all of whom, including pakistani kids, referred to the pakistani run corner shop as the p* shop.

I would also note that it is perfectly possible to say a racist thing and not be a racist.

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Beychella4 · 04/09/2025 14:24

Would you consider referring to a random taxi driver as the “Little p*ki” to be racist OP?

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:20

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 08:03

Does anyone else know Shady Shae on social media? He seems to be a London-based, Nigerian-born youtuber. He seems to believe that immigrants should integrate with and celebrate the countries that they come to.

Anyway, the point. Around 22nd August give or take he posted a video on youtube called "Black Man Took the St George’s Cross to a Protest… What Happened SHOCKED Me!" He has posted plenty of similar videos before.

AIBU to ask those people who regard antifa-types as heroes fighting the fascism and racism of Tommy Robinson and the "hard left" to watch the video above and tell me what evidence of racism and fascism was on show? AIBU to say that there it is hard to see a crowd as racist when it is showing massive levels of love to a black Nigerian?

I watched that video. I think he's great. It's the left that won't have it if you don't agree with them.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:17

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:16

I have zero interest in Konstantin Kisin.

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So you have no idea whether he is racist but as part of your attempt to understand the world he's another person who you will not listen to. Well done.

I stopped reading at "cultral racism" because the article was bollocks, and that was before it drifted off the subject (racism) and onto cultural racism

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JHound · 04/09/2025 14:16

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:16

When Reform get in power, and it will be shit, I will be blaming people like you, not the likes of TR (TR hates Farage by the way).

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Ok. 👍

I will hold accountable the people who choose to vote for them but you do you.

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:16

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:15

Do you think KK is racist as well?

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I have zero interest in Konstantin Kisin.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:16

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:09

I said what I said (which is not your invention of what I said.)

(I equally have no interest in giving Konstantin “Brown Hindus cannot be English” Kisin views either. )

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When Reform get in power, and it will be shit, I will be blaming people like you, not the likes of TR (TR hates Farage by the way).

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