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Shady Shae somewhat undermines antifas anti-Tommy Robinson message

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 08:03

Does anyone else know Shady Shae on social media? He seems to be a London-based, Nigerian-born youtuber. He seems to believe that immigrants should integrate with and celebrate the countries that they come to.

Anyway, the point. Around 22nd August give or take he posted a video on youtube called "Black Man Took the St George’s Cross to a Protest… What Happened SHOCKED Me!" He has posted plenty of similar videos before.

AIBU to ask those people who regard antifa-types as heroes fighting the fascism and racism of Tommy Robinson and the "hard left" to watch the video above and tell me what evidence of racism and fascism was on show? AIBU to say that there it is hard to see a crowd as racist when it is showing massive levels of love to a black Nigerian?

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JHound · 04/09/2025 15:48

QuickMember · 04/09/2025 15:38

Exactly. I’ve heard Indian people also use this term about Pakistanis. Sometimes in a derogatory way (considering their history) and sometimes just because they’ve heard other people shorten the term “Pakistani.” There’s also a word people used for the Chinese, regardless of the demographic they were from. I don’t advocate for being lazy with language but racism doesn’t always exist all the time.

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It’s always racist. At best people don’t care they’re being racist.

JHound · 04/09/2025 15:47

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/09/2025 15:20

I cannot see it

There's a joke in there somewhere.

And to the earlier point about the word P4ki. It has been offensive for as long as Tommy has been alive. It can't be news to anyone.

The additional joke for those who insist it’s not racist it’s just how “working class” people refer to Pakistani owned shops….the shop is almost never Pakistani owned.
It’s invariably a Sikh owner but I guess they all look like.

VioletandDill · 04/09/2025 15:46

OP you lost me at: I would also note that it is perfectly possible to say a racist thing and not be a racist.

Wow.

Tom Cruise What GIF
QuickMember · 04/09/2025 15:38

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:46

In fairness, the term P%&i is nothing more than a shortened version of Pakistani. Which is no different from calling someone Indian. It's seen as racist now and rightly so because of how it has been used and the negative connotations it holds.

Exactly. I’ve heard Indian people also use this term about Pakistanis. Sometimes in a derogatory way (considering their history) and sometimes just because they’ve heard other people shorten the term “Pakistani.” There’s also a word people used for the Chinese, regardless of the demographic they were from. I don’t advocate for being lazy with language but racism doesn’t always exist all the time.

QuickMember · 04/09/2025 15:33

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:36

It's not just white people who can be racist. I think that's a fact most people overlook. Dianne Abbot for one. That disgusting Narinda Kaur to name but two. And other cultures/races who are dead against their families marrying another other than their own race.

Narinder is the worst.

QuickMember · 04/09/2025 15:28

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 13:53

(1) I do not believe that being a member of the BNP 21 years ago now proves he agreed with everything the BNP said or stood for. And what he blieved 21 years ago does not make him a racist now. I believe that he explicitly opposes to ethno-nationalism, and I believe that his words and who he hangs out with back that up.

(2) The public are lied to by the MSM. What the public believes on TR is more about what they have been told, not the truth as you prove.

(3) There are pictures of TR stood next to Islamists. Are you saying he is a nazi and Islamist as he stands next to both?

(4) I do not hold TR accountable for what other people tweeted.

(5) I gave up at the cultural racism bit.

I am here, awaiting the evidence of his racism. Show me the video where he says racist things or pushes racist ideas? I don't think he's perfect, and he has probably said things he regrets and things I disagree with, but I simply do not believe that he is some big racist. I believe he is a proud Brit who is happy with whoever is here so long as they share what he sees as british values.

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With regard to the BNP membership, he says he signed up online but didn’t renew membership as it was a white people only party. I think he said this on Triggernometry. That interview and their thoughts after (they did a separate video) are worth checking out.

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/09/2025 15:27

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 14:36

He’s not “Far Right” and he’s not “Racist”.

What he is, is “Working Class” to the absolute core, with several mistakes made, in his youth, as he found his political feet, so to speak. He did a lot of stupid shit, as many working class people do, without the strong guard rails and increased opportunities & social/cultural capital provided by being born into the middle classes.

Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised. Is he perfect? No. He’s overly aggressive at times, but then he’s probably also living in a state of constant hyper vigilance which prompts reactive behaviours. He should probably get some therapy.

But make no mistake, TR’s or SYL’s, if you prefer, main crime is being born working class and being unapologetic about it.

😆😆😆

Hes a racist grifter with a coke habit funded by his racist following. hyper vigilant? No, off his tit's. Tommy Robinson is not typical of the working class.🙄

Most of us are grafters, not grifters. Few of us can afford a coke habit or to move to massive villa in Spain following Brexit. Most of us live in the UK.

Most of us are not racist.

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/09/2025 15:20

I cannot see it

There's a joke in there somewhere.

And to the earlier point about the word P4ki. It has been offensive for as long as Tommy has been alive. It can't be news to anyone.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 15:09

Beychella4 · 04/09/2025 15:08

The video is linked in the article.

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Where in the article, I cannot see it?

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Beychella4 · 04/09/2025 15:08

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 15:03

Have you got the video so I can see for myself?

When was the video filmed?

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The video is linked in the article.

FirstNationsEnglish · 04/09/2025 15:06

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:40

That is my view.

"Anyone who bothers to listen to him long form can see that his heart is in the right place and he has been utterly demonised."

100%.

Is he perfect? Do I agree with him on everything? No, no. Of course not.

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Ages ago, he must have hit the headlines for something and just out of curiosity I watched him address the Oxford Union. It was really interesting and I came to understanding a little of why he is so outspoken. He spoke very well, especially if you listen without prejudice.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 15:03

Beychella4 · 04/09/2025 14:52

https://theweek.com/99588/tommy-robinson-uses-racial-slurs-and-boasts-about-drug-use-in-bizarre-video

He’s racist.

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Have you got the video so I can see for myself?

When was the video filmed?

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JHound · 04/09/2025 15:02

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 15:01

What an obnoxious response to a polite post complete with pre-apology. I’ll ignore you from now on.

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Cool. 👍

JHound · 04/09/2025 15:01

Yes this country IS built on migration: migrants like the Windrush generation - hundreds of thousands of people of colour who came to Britain in the 50s and 60s, worked hard and adopted British values and customs and made this country their home.
There will always be idiot racists - and there certainly was at the time. But the vast, VAST majority of people in 2025 would - and indeed do - welcome THIS kind of migration in a heartbeat.

The rewriting of history surrounding how the Windrush generation were treated and spoken about (and in many regards, still are) is really quite astonishing.

I wonder if 50/60 years from now we will see the same historical revisionism regarding current attitudes to immigrants and asylum seekers.

WolfingtonBear · 04/09/2025 15:01

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:48

What part of “I have no interest in….” are people struggling with.

Have I heard his voice? Yes. Several times. And I have no interest in him.

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What an obnoxious response to a polite post complete with pre-apology. I’ll ignore you from now on.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:59

Jumpingthruhoops · 04/09/2025 14:51

I believe he is a proud Brit who is happy with whoever is here so long as they share what he sees as british values.

I suspect this has long been the issue OP. Fact is, this whole debate has very little to do with race and everything to do with culture.

Those who keep bleating on about 'this country is built on migration' when referring to people's objections to the uncontrolled, undocumented individuals currently coming to this country, are completely missing the point.

Yes this country IS built on migration: migrants like the Windrush generation - hundreds of thousands of people of colour who came to Britain in the 50s and 60s, worked hard and adopted British values and customs and made this country their home.
There will always be idiot racists - and there certainly was at the time. But the vast, VAST majority of people in 2025 would - and indeed do - welcome THIS kind of migration in a heartbeat.

However, modern UK immigration doesn't look like this. Once we switch the conversation from immigration to INTEGRATION we might actually get somewhere.

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100%.

And your point of view is 100% backed up by the video(s) of Shady Shae (a black Nigerian who lives in the UK) being shown massive amounts of love by Tommy Robinson, and all sorts of TR supporters, young and old, black and white, male and female.

It's almost like when TR says things like "I don't care about someone's skin colour, I care about British values like free speech, democracy and hatred of paedophilia" [that is not his words, it is the sort of thing I believe he would agree with] he means what he says, and it's not code for "I hate everyone who isn't white british"

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Beychella4 · 04/09/2025 14:52

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:31

I do not use that word because it has racist connotations.

I would need to see who said it, to whom, and in exactly what context before commenting further.

I think that the working classes in the UK are massively massively deminized by middle class liberals with university educations (I am one, but I try not to be a snob or classist), and I would not wish to criticize (for example) a white working class woman who spent her childhood growing up with kids of all races, all of whom, including pakistani kids, referred to the pakistani run corner shop as the p* shop.

I would also note that it is perfectly possible to say a racist thing and not be a racist.

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https://theweek.com/99588/tommy-robinson-uses-racial-slurs-and-boasts-about-drug-use-in-bizarre-video

He’s racist.

Tommy Robinson uses racial slurs and boasts about drug use in bizarre video

Former EDL leader claims comments were ‘banter’ after proclaiming himself ‘King of the whole Islam race’ in leaked footage

https://theweek.com/99588/tommy-robinson-uses-racial-slurs-and-boasts-about-drug-use-in-bizarre-video

Jumpingthruhoops · 04/09/2025 14:51

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 13:53

(1) I do not believe that being a member of the BNP 21 years ago now proves he agreed with everything the BNP said or stood for. And what he blieved 21 years ago does not make him a racist now. I believe that he explicitly opposes to ethno-nationalism, and I believe that his words and who he hangs out with back that up.

(2) The public are lied to by the MSM. What the public believes on TR is more about what they have been told, not the truth as you prove.

(3) There are pictures of TR stood next to Islamists. Are you saying he is a nazi and Islamist as he stands next to both?

(4) I do not hold TR accountable for what other people tweeted.

(5) I gave up at the cultural racism bit.

I am here, awaiting the evidence of his racism. Show me the video where he says racist things or pushes racist ideas? I don't think he's perfect, and he has probably said things he regrets and things I disagree with, but I simply do not believe that he is some big racist. I believe he is a proud Brit who is happy with whoever is here so long as they share what he sees as british values.

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I believe he is a proud Brit who is happy with whoever is here so long as they share what he sees as british values.

I suspect this has long been the issue OP. Fact is, this whole debate has very little to do with race and everything to do with culture.

Those who keep bleating on about 'this country is built on migration' when referring to people's objections to the uncontrolled, undocumented individuals currently coming to this country, are completely missing the point.

Yes this country IS built on migration: migrants like the Windrush generation - hundreds of thousands of people of colour who came to Britain in the 50s and 60s, worked hard and adopted British values and customs and made this country their home.
There will always be idiot racists - and there certainly was at the time. But the vast, VAST majority of people in 2025 would - and indeed do - welcome THIS kind of migration in a heartbeat.

However, modern UK immigration doesn't look like this. Once we switch the conversation from immigration to INTEGRATION we might actually get somewhere.

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:50

JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:49

Why are you on a thread about him? Or are you lying whan you say you're not interested?

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The thread is not about Konstantin Kisin.

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:49

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:48

🙄.

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I think you watch too many cartoons.

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JamieCannister · 04/09/2025 14:49

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:48

What part of “I have no interest in….” are people struggling with.

Have I heard his voice? Yes. Several times. And I have no interest in him.

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Why are you on a thread about him? Or are you lying whan you say you're not interested?

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JHound · 04/09/2025 14:49

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:48

The left do prefer an echo chamber

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“The Left”

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:48

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:48

What part of “I have no interest in….” are people struggling with.

Have I heard his voice? Yes. Several times. And I have no interest in him.

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The left do prefer an echo chamber

JHound · 04/09/2025 14:48

scorpiogirly · 04/09/2025 14:46

In fairness, the term P%&i is nothing more than a shortened version of Pakistani. Which is no different from calling someone Indian. It's seen as racist now and rightly so because of how it has been used and the negative connotations it holds.

🙄.

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