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DC skipped their first day. AIBU about DP’s reaction

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BlondeSpider · 03/09/2025 22:03

I do not even know where to start because my head is all over the place. Today was supposed to be such a big day for us. DS is 14 and was due to start at a 14 plus college after being out of school for more than a year. He stopped going back just after Christmas in year 8. His mental health had been declining for a while before that and then I found out he had been self harming. His anxiety was through the roof and it got to the point where he just could not manage. CAMHS were no help at all. I felt like I was banging my head against a brick wall every time I tried to get support. Eventually I deregistered him from school and homeschooled. It has been very up and down but he is bright and when he is calm he is lovely. I paid privately in the end for an autism assessment because waiting for the NHS was going to take years. He now has a diagnosis which in some ways was a relief but also quite overwhelming.

This summer has been really hard. DS has been difficult to live with. He is angry a lot of the time and everything is an argument. His anxiety is still there and when he is stressed it turns into lashing out verbally and sometimes physically. We have had things thrown, doors slammed, endless shouting matches. It has been exhausting, I think it's mostly due to puberty as he's had a growth spurt recently and his voice has dropped

DD is his twin. She has generally managed better with school and life in general but she has been struggling too, especially with his behaviour. She loves him and worries about him and is quite protective over him. She was supposed to be starting year 10 today which is a big year with GCSEs coming up.

This morning they both set out together for the bus stop. DS was nervous but I felt cautiously hopeful. It felt like maybe this was a turning point. But they never went. They did not get on the bus and they were gone most of the day. They ignored my calls and texts and would not say where they were. When they finally came home later on it all kicked off.

DP was furious. He immediately took their phones off them which caused a huge row. DS completely lost it and hit DP on the arm. DP reacted by shoving him back. It was not hard enough to hurt but it was physical and I just feel really uncomfortable about that. Then DP turned on DD and shouted at her for not making sure DS went in and for covering for him. He told her she had let everyone down. She just stood there crying.

I honestly do not know what to think. I understand why DP was so angry because I was too. We have been through hell trying to get DS back into education and today felt like such an important chance. But at the same time I feel like DP handled it badly. DD should not have had all that responsibility put on her and I do not think shouting at her was fair at all. And even though DS hit him first I still do not like that he shoved him back. The atmosphere in the house is awful now and I feel like we are right back at square one.

AIBU to think DP was too heavy handed and made things worse. Or am I just being soft?

OP posts:
justasking111 · 04/09/2025 14:25

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:19

Well there is obviously an ongoing problem with her DP or she wouldn’t be preparing to leave him.

And he'll probably be relieved. Again he's not the father, not his sperm. Where is the birth father. Did he cut and run?

justasking111 · 04/09/2025 14:22

I've read plenty of threads on here where mumsnetters are at their wits end with 18 year olds who've finished school, are being violent, trashing the home, terrorising younger siblings. The advice is pretty much throw them out. Call the police.

Yet on this thread the stepfather is the villain.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:21

CanadianHobbit · 04/09/2025 13:50

I think you are being soft and sounds like your partner is the only one willing to parent the kids. Too bad if your son wants his phone to listen to music - put the radio on, put music on the tv. Enough is enough - step up and parent your kids. Removing their phones is a minor punishment for the way they have behaved.

Glossing very nicely over the autism and mental health problems, about which you clearly know nothing.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:19

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 14:16

He’s been dealing with verbally and aggressive behaviour for weeks on end plus being the sole earner for the last couple of years. If that wasn’t stressful enough there was finally an end in sight and it instead turned into a stressful day with missing kids.

The softly softly approach hasn’t worked, and while I don’t think his behaviour was right I can see the reason behind it (not an excuse for it). OPs son is not a little boy, and he’s only going to continue to get bigger. In a couple of years he’s going to be an adult. Nothing has changed in the last few years so how is carrying on the same way going to make things change in the next couple of years? Then there will be a consistently aggressive adult in the house.

The obvious solution was OP getting the bus or driving DS to school but she’s refusing that as an option. OP has only mentioned previous aggression from her son, presumably they have been trying to deal with that calmly all summer (or there’s going to be a drip feed that her partner has also been physically and verbally abusive all summer, not just her son) and it clearly hasnt worked.

Well there is obviously an ongoing problem with her DP or she wouldn’t be preparing to leave him.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:17

Nostylequeen · 04/09/2025 14:13

@XiCiand how did all these poor children cope before phones were around. What made up nonsense you are talking about.

OP has already said her son uses music through his phone as a self soothing and self regulating routine. What autistic children did before phones is irrelevant - this is the boy’s coping mechanism and the fact that DP has taken it away is pretty much proof that he doesn’t understand autism and doesn’t want to.

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 14:16

XiCi · 04/09/2025 13:57

Of course he's being held to a higher standard. He's an adult! He's screaming in the face of and physically shoving a small 14 year old boy who has autism and mental health problems. Think of how differently it could have turned out had the kids been spoken to calmly but firmly. Finding out what happened and why, how they can stop it happening again, what needs to be in place to help, explaining why it cant happen again etc etc. This is how most people would deal with this, not screaming in both their faces in a rage as soon as they walk in, physically shoving them and taking the one thing from an autistic child that calms them down when they are already in a state of heightened anxiety. I don't know how you can defend that from a grown man

He’s been dealing with verbally and aggressive behaviour for weeks on end plus being the sole earner for the last couple of years. If that wasn’t stressful enough there was finally an end in sight and it instead turned into a stressful day with missing kids.

The softly softly approach hasn’t worked, and while I don’t think his behaviour was right I can see the reason behind it (not an excuse for it). OPs son is not a little boy, and he’s only going to continue to get bigger. In a couple of years he’s going to be an adult. Nothing has changed in the last few years so how is carrying on the same way going to make things change in the next couple of years? Then there will be a consistently aggressive adult in the house.

The obvious solution was OP getting the bus or driving DS to school but she’s refusing that as an option. OP has only mentioned previous aggression from her son, presumably they have been trying to deal with that calmly all summer (or there’s going to be a drip feed that her partner has also been physically and verbally abusive all summer, not just her son) and it clearly hasnt worked.

Nostylequeen · 04/09/2025 14:13

@XiCiand how did all these poor children cope before phones were around. What made up nonsense you are talking about.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:12

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 13:55

If you dont like how your partner is parenting yoir children (which sounds normal to me), do it yourself.

I cant believe you've got a 14 year old boy who thinks its okay to.hit someone and not.go to school.

Just take a look at all these threads in Relationships from women who are with men who dont work and think its okay to physically hurt them.
Those men dont just magically appear in the world.
They start as boys.

You missed that her son has autism and significant mental health problems then ?

justasking111 · 04/09/2025 14:05

CarrotVan · 04/09/2025 13:30

I’ve read everything and both my kids are autistic

Autistic people are capable of learning, adapting and changing their patterns of behaviour and routines. It may take longer, it may be harder, it may need support but that rigidity is not absolute. You are undermining his development by not stretching him at all.

You driving your son to College, and supporting his transition gradually doesn’t mean he won’t ever get the bus - that is your own rigid thinking talking.

Talk to the SEN team and ask for advice but it is wholly possible that he can transition to College successfully with the right support.

Absolutely 💯 my friend has worked with and taught SEN children for 40 years at a special school. She's done the D of E with them up at the lakes and in the mountains. Run a weekly club for them, on top of teaching at school. Her main complaint is that the parents infantalise them. At 18 they leave the special school, parents screaming because they can't cope, who will care for them now.

XiCi · 04/09/2025 14:00

CanadianHobbit · 04/09/2025 13:57

Here’s a suggestion:
No school = no phone or internet.

I bet he changes his tune a bit quicker.

And yes, you need to drive him. You essentially set him up for failure.

Here's a suggestion

You haven't got the foggiest clue about raising neurodivergent children

XiCi · 04/09/2025 13:57

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 13:46

Or just at his wits end with OP and passed the point of being rational. All four of them are struggling to cope and be rational and that’s understandable.

OP left DS to get the bus with his sister, she must have known that was never going to work.
DD disappeared with her brother for the day and did not contact or respond to her mum or step dad
And of course DS is massively massively struggling.

DP is also being unreasonable but he seems to be being held to a much higher expected standard.

Of course he's being held to a higher standard. He's an adult! He's screaming in the face of and physically shoving a small 14 year old boy who has autism and mental health problems. Think of how differently it could have turned out had the kids been spoken to calmly but firmly. Finding out what happened and why, how they can stop it happening again, what needs to be in place to help, explaining why it cant happen again etc etc. This is how most people would deal with this, not screaming in both their faces in a rage as soon as they walk in, physically shoving them and taking the one thing from an autistic child that calms them down when they are already in a state of heightened anxiety. I don't know how you can defend that from a grown man

Toomanyminifigs · 04/09/2025 13:57

OP - you've clearly got a lot going on in your life and there's a lot to unpick in your posts.
But on a practical note, have you applied to your LA for transport for your DS? He has an EHCP and I'm assuming his new placement is named in Section I. If so, especially as he's under 16, the LA has a statutory duty to provide what's in Section F of his EHCP - and as you've not chosen to home educate him, that's in his place of learning.

As he has SEN, the usual 3 mile rule doesn't apply if they try and fob you off. Speak to the Senco at his setting - they may be prepared to help you apply - especially as his placement looks like it could break down.
Transport could be a bus with other students or even a taxi. You have evidence that expecting him to travel independently on public transport isn't working. Of course they have offered him a bus pass - that's the cheapest option for them.

Ipsea has some good advice on this:
https://www.ipsea.org.uk/pages/category/transport-to-school-or-college

Also Sentas:
https://sentas.co.uk/

Ipsea runs a free helpline for parents of kids with SEN - it can be really hard to book a slot but you need to keep trying everyday. Also SOS!SEN are good: https://sossen.org.uk/

Also - I would recommend that you try and keep him on roll - even if he's not able to actually attend. If you take him off roll, there's less pressure on the LA to deliver what's in his EHCP. As he's Yr10 now, putting it bluntly, some LAs know they only need to fob parents off for a couple more years before DC cease to be of statutory school age.

The other option you have is asking for an emergency Annual Review.

CanadianHobbit · 04/09/2025 13:57

Here’s a suggestion:
No school = no phone or internet.

I bet he changes his tune a bit quicker.

And yes, you need to drive him. You essentially set him up for failure.

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 13:55

If you dont like how your partner is parenting yoir children (which sounds normal to me), do it yourself.

I cant believe you've got a 14 year old boy who thinks its okay to.hit someone and not.go to school.

Just take a look at all these threads in Relationships from women who are with men who dont work and think its okay to physically hurt them.
Those men dont just magically appear in the world.
They start as boys.

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 13:50

OP needs to make a proper plan to leave her DP. She can’t go to a women’s refuge with both her children, and certain other temporary accommodations won’t be appropriate either.

If they rent then DP might be open to leaving and finding alternative accommodation himself, and universal credit would hopefully help with rent given DS’ needs limiting OPs ability to work. I think OPs first port of call should be entitled to or CAB to find out her benefit entitlement if she were to be a single mother. But at the moment with nowhere else to go simply getting up and leaving and hoping for emergency accommodation is unlikely to make things any better.

CanadianHobbit · 04/09/2025 13:50

I think you are being soft and sounds like your partner is the only one willing to parent the kids. Too bad if your son wants his phone to listen to music - put the radio on, put music on the tv. Enough is enough - step up and parent your kids. Removing their phones is a minor punishment for the way they have behaved.

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 04/09/2025 13:46

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 04/09/2025 12:49

Just read "Music helps him to soothe" and that has been taken away from him by your "D"P.. as "punishment" .

Your DS has had his "punishment" already.. The massive angry shout out from your "D" P as soon as he got through the door, when you would have sat DS down and talked to him to find out why.

Partner has actually taken both their phones away from them and brought them into work. Get them back. Plus it is not helpful for DP to be involved in this process whilst you sort things out. Getting your son to school is the priority, not DP's views on discipline.

If music soothes your DS, he needs his phone. In reality, he's unlikely to go in without it. It is clearly one of his support mechanisms. It must have been a really big deal for him to have gone through the testing and having to deal with a diagnosis and all the family discussion that went on.

I know there's a big phone debate, but I always found it reassuring that they could contact home and several times its made a big difference. A 45 min - 1 hour bus journey times 2..I'd find that as boring as hell without a podcast. Also helps if he's shy. The school can take it if its not allowed whilst he's in the building.

I'm sure the school and his 1.2.1 will have some good suggestions and have dealt with this before. 1.2.1 may even be able to meet him on "neutral" territory just so he can ask questions and find out more.

Im sure you will get there OP. it does sound difficult, but break it down into small wins and solutions, anything that takes you forward bit by bit.

Edited

Yes! All of this. Your son needs the phone to regulate. Your partner has no right to take it away. It’s abuse. And he is controlling you, not allowing you to bring your kids up the way you would like. You need him out of the picture. Call Women’s Aid asap and find out your rights. Get him out. And support your son who sounds like he was doing so well until your DP messed it up. It can all be resolved. Without DP.

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 13:46

XiCi · 04/09/2025 13:41

Absolutely. And him taking the kids phones to work is yet another example of how much of a cunt he is

Or just at his wits end with OP and passed the point of being rational. All four of them are struggling to cope and be rational and that’s understandable.

OP left DS to get the bus with his sister, she must have known that was never going to work.
DD disappeared with her brother for the day and did not contact or respond to her mum or step dad
And of course DS is massively massively struggling.

DP is also being unreasonable but he seems to be being held to a much higher expected standard.

Nostylequeen · 04/09/2025 13:44

@XiCioh yes he’s the bad one. Op should just walk away then and she can fund herself and her kids.

XiCi · 04/09/2025 13:41

Thursdayschild2025 · 04/09/2025 11:39

Nope. The 6 foot + man went after a 5 foot 5 CHILD OF FOURTEEN who had walked away. The 6 foot+ man shoved him in bullying temper. The CHILD OF FOURTEEN had only hit him on the arm after the bullying abusive 6 foot + man stole his phone from him and had screamed abuse at the CHILDREN.

The bullying and abusive 6 foot+ man is a vicious cunt.

Men don't shove children around and scream in their faces. Men don't steal other people's property and hide it for days on end.

You're cheering on an abusive bully.

Absolutely. And him taking the kids phones to work is yet another example of how much of a cunt he is

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 13:35

A part of me wonders if you set him up to fail OP because in some ways it’s easier ti have him at home and know how he is and what he’s doing. It’s become routine for him but also for you.

You and DP need to have a serious and honest discussion about what all the issues are and what kind of help you can get. You act like in the family you and your son are the only ones with issues, ignoring the problems and pressures faced by your partner and daughter, and that sounds like it’s leading to increased frustration from your partner and increased anxiety from your daughter.

You can’t expect DP to support you and your two children financially but not to be able to discipline them or accept 6 weeks plus of verbal and physical aggression, plus the stress and anxiety of two children going missing for a day and not bat an eyelid.

It seems like you and DS have a very codependent relationship, which isn’t necessarily surprising or a deliberate choice you’ve made. But it is a bubble you need to break out of for both of your sakes.

Nostylequeen · 04/09/2025 13:31

Ablondiebutagoody · 03/09/2025 22:33

I think that a shove was a very mild reaction. You can't let violence from a teenage boy slide.

Exactly. I would leave if I were your dp. Your children sound so problematic and difficult and now violence on top.

CarrotVan · 04/09/2025 13:30

I’ve read everything and both my kids are autistic

Autistic people are capable of learning, adapting and changing their patterns of behaviour and routines. It may take longer, it may be harder, it may need support but that rigidity is not absolute. You are undermining his development by not stretching him at all.

You driving your son to College, and supporting his transition gradually doesn’t mean he won’t ever get the bus - that is your own rigid thinking talking.

Talk to the SEN team and ask for advice but it is wholly possible that he can transition to College successfully with the right support.

justasking111 · 04/09/2025 13:20

Tiswa · 04/09/2025 12:57

Given he is very clear about his money, expects that to last on food for a week presumably including him and that is the only money she gets, and he sees his friends regularly and she never does - I imagine not.

Look having a child with these kind of issues is hard and it can break relationships where both are the parents it isn’t a surprise they are having issues.

But the fact he is taking the lead when he isn’t the parent, clearly has resentment about the fact this is where it has ended up (which is kind of understandable) is an issue for the OP and her children

He isn't the parent, but he's doing his best. Where is the father in all this?

Tiswa · 04/09/2025 12:57

Espressosummer · 04/09/2025 12:38

How is the relationship abusive with money? The OP has said her only income is carers allowance and DLA which she says she spends on her son. That leaves the partner to pay for rent, council tax, gas&electricity, car running costs (1 or 2 vehicles), clothes, her child's autism assesment etc. Have you considered he gives her £50 a week because that's all he's got left?

Given he is very clear about his money, expects that to last on food for a week presumably including him and that is the only money she gets, and he sees his friends regularly and she never does - I imagine not.

Look having a child with these kind of issues is hard and it can break relationships where both are the parents it isn’t a surprise they are having issues.

But the fact he is taking the lead when he isn’t the parent, clearly has resentment about the fact this is where it has ended up (which is kind of understandable) is an issue for the OP and her children