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DC skipped their first day. AIBU about DP’s reaction

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BlondeSpider · 03/09/2025 22:03

I do not even know where to start because my head is all over the place. Today was supposed to be such a big day for us. DS is 14 and was due to start at a 14 plus college after being out of school for more than a year. He stopped going back just after Christmas in year 8. His mental health had been declining for a while before that and then I found out he had been self harming. His anxiety was through the roof and it got to the point where he just could not manage. CAMHS were no help at all. I felt like I was banging my head against a brick wall every time I tried to get support. Eventually I deregistered him from school and homeschooled. It has been very up and down but he is bright and when he is calm he is lovely. I paid privately in the end for an autism assessment because waiting for the NHS was going to take years. He now has a diagnosis which in some ways was a relief but also quite overwhelming.

This summer has been really hard. DS has been difficult to live with. He is angry a lot of the time and everything is an argument. His anxiety is still there and when he is stressed it turns into lashing out verbally and sometimes physically. We have had things thrown, doors slammed, endless shouting matches. It has been exhausting, I think it's mostly due to puberty as he's had a growth spurt recently and his voice has dropped

DD is his twin. She has generally managed better with school and life in general but she has been struggling too, especially with his behaviour. She loves him and worries about him and is quite protective over him. She was supposed to be starting year 10 today which is a big year with GCSEs coming up.

This morning they both set out together for the bus stop. DS was nervous but I felt cautiously hopeful. It felt like maybe this was a turning point. But they never went. They did not get on the bus and they were gone most of the day. They ignored my calls and texts and would not say where they were. When they finally came home later on it all kicked off.

DP was furious. He immediately took their phones off them which caused a huge row. DS completely lost it and hit DP on the arm. DP reacted by shoving him back. It was not hard enough to hurt but it was physical and I just feel really uncomfortable about that. Then DP turned on DD and shouted at her for not making sure DS went in and for covering for him. He told her she had let everyone down. She just stood there crying.

I honestly do not know what to think. I understand why DP was so angry because I was too. We have been through hell trying to get DS back into education and today felt like such an important chance. But at the same time I feel like DP handled it badly. DD should not have had all that responsibility put on her and I do not think shouting at her was fair at all. And even though DS hit him first I still do not like that he shoved him back. The atmosphere in the house is awful now and I feel like we are right back at square one.

AIBU to think DP was too heavy handed and made things worse. Or am I just being soft?

OP posts:
Falseknock · 04/09/2025 16:02

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 15:41

Did you call the police or go out looking for them yesterday?

I know priorities are all over the place. I have to ask is this AI interacting with us?

runningonberocca · 04/09/2025 16:00

Still no response as to where the children went all day. How did they spend their time? Were they safe?
This may also give some indication of what he is able to tolerate - eg did he catch another bus into town, go to McDonald’s or did they just wander for hours?
It sounds as though home educating wasn’t ideal either and if anything his behaviour has got worse with increasing violence and aggression over the summer. What support have you received OP? Has there been any CAMHS or social care support? Any occupational therapy intervention? Why did you have to seek a one off private assessment ? Had he had any assessments by CAMHS and what was fheir opinion? Autism assessments usually take place over a series of assessments as opposed to a one off meeting - did you have a full extended assessment or just a 1 hr meeting? What interventions were offered to manage his self harm , his anxiety and aggression? Was family therapy offered? Any intervention for his sister who must find living with her brothers violence frightening ?
What are his plans do this future, interests, hobbies? Is his behaviour now very different to when in primary school as it doesn’t seem that the possibility of autism was flagged in primary school?
He, you and the family as a whole need the correct input and while you may be in receipt of this it’s not clear from your posts.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 04/09/2025 15:55

CanadianHobbit · 04/09/2025 13:50

I think you are being soft and sounds like your partner is the only one willing to parent the kids. Too bad if your son wants his phone to listen to music - put the radio on, put music on the tv. Enough is enough - step up and parent your kids. Removing their phones is a minor punishment for the way they have behaved.

They have already been punished by DP's aggressive and abusive shouting at them as soon as they walked in the door.
This stopped OP being able to sit down and talk to them calmly and find out what actually happened.
His treatment of the DD was disgraceful.
He took their phones to work too - he's actually punishing OP and preventing her from sorting this out.
Even teenagers phones are essential equipment for emergencies if nothing else.

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 15:41

Did you call the police or go out looking for them yesterday?

Falseknock · 04/09/2025 15:38

They shouldn't have wondered off he was right to tell them off. You say he went in "all guns blazing" is minimising what they did. You don't sound that concerned or believe they should have any consequences which is why you are in the situation you are in. Why didn't his dad pay for his assessment why your partner?

You say you can't go out do you have younger children under the age of 12? I don't understand why you can't go out. You could go to work on the evenings and weekends if you want to. Plenty of care work out there. You could contribute to the finances and have freedom for yourself. Your partner has taken on you and your children and he takes on most of the responsibility. He's even doing the parenting for you because you don't like disciplining your children.

BlondeSpider · 04/09/2025 15:23

It's not all he can afford, he regularly goes out drinking and to watch the football every Saturday. their dads family buys DD’s uniform (they offer, I don't ask!), DS doesn't have a uniform for college.

He's not out of control I'm not sure where posters have got that from, yes he does lash out when stressed and his behaviour has changed over summer I presume due to puberty and hormones. He's never hit me, no. The most I've had is a cuddly toy thrown at me. dd has never been hit either by him, he did once hit her while they were playing swingball but it wasn't on purpose or him being aggressive and he was very upset and apologetic after toward her so I don't think he'd purposely hit her. He's not been rotting in bed for 2 years either, he's been homeschooled.

He's not been offered any LA transport apart from a bus pass, that's a good idea about the 1:1 coming out to see him. He has met 3 of them I think they'll be working with him on a rotation basis so that if one is off sick for example he'll be used to working with them all. We had a tour of the college too before the summer. I did tell DP to give him his phone back and even mentioned this morning about DD’s phone and school but he said they'll get them back when he says and has taken them to work with him.

I don't know where they were either. We didn't have chance to chat as DP went in all guns blazing. DS mentioned something about a park but that was about it, DD said it didn't matter.

OP posts:
JFDIYOLO · 04/09/2025 15:15

Autism is genetic, runs in families. Is there a wider picture?

Could there be more complexities here?

Is his father autistic? (Where is he in all this, while your partner is supporting you and his children?)

Are you autistic?

Is his twin sister autistic?

Autistic women and girls have largely gone unnoticed, unseen, unsupported through generally being better at masking.

Especially where more noticeable issues are being exhibited by a boy, which can pull attention one way.

Is she getting any support, or just inappropriate responsibility, punishment and blame?

katepilar · 04/09/2025 15:05

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 14:55

No there's nothing more going on here: you have a mum who doesn't work or financially contribute to the house but also dont use her free time to eg drive her kid to school when she knows he has issues with school attendance.

Then you have a 14 year old boy who physically assaults people.

Those are the facts.

Where did you get that from? That OP doesnt contribute to the house?

justasking111 · 04/09/2025 14:56

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:42

No-one is denying that. Not even OP as she says that’s why she needs to work. My point is that there is clearly a lot more going on here than meets the the eye, and it’s clear from what OP has posted that Dp doesn’t understand autism and has no intention of learning.

I think OP needs educating too. Unfortunately from what she says CAMHS has let her down, she had one private assessment. All this late in the day so her son is out of control now.

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 14:55

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:42

No-one is denying that. Not even OP as she says that’s why she needs to work. My point is that there is clearly a lot more going on here than meets the the eye, and it’s clear from what OP has posted that Dp doesn’t understand autism and has no intention of learning.

No there's nothing more going on here: you have a mum who doesn't work or financially contribute to the house but also dont use her free time to eg drive her kid to school when she knows he has issues with school attendance.

Then you have a 14 year old boy who physically assaults people.

Those are the facts.

katepilar · 04/09/2025 14:53

Millytante · 04/09/2025 14:39

Yes, that was my first thought

It has been explained a while ago that she didnt want to leave her twin brother at the bus stop.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:46

katepilar · 04/09/2025 14:42

Yes, people would have other comfort objects or rituals.
This child now has his phone to play music as a tool to calm down.
Its not your place to tell them to use a different tool that doesnt do the job.

This. The ignorance of what autism actually is, is breathtaking.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:45

Nostylequeen · 04/09/2025 14:30

@Rosscameasdoodyand he can only access music from a phone? No where else?

That isn’t the point. It’s the routine that matters. It’s a coping mechanism and DP should not be blocking access to it. It will only make things worse.

katepilar · 04/09/2025 14:42

Nostylequeen · 04/09/2025 14:13

@XiCiand how did all these poor children cope before phones were around. What made up nonsense you are talking about.

Yes, people would have other comfort objects or rituals.
This child now has his phone to play music as a tool to calm down.
Its not your place to tell them to use a different tool that doesnt do the job.

IAmQuiteNiceActually · 04/09/2025 14:42

Oh OP this sounds like such a stressful situation. I had a similar situation but without the suicide threats and the abusive partner - and that was awful enough.

I don't have any answers but I don't think your current plan is going to work and it's going to put you under too much pressure. I don't see how you're going to be able to work long enough to save enough money to leave without things falling apart at home. Have you been to the CAB and checked what other benefits you're entitled to? Would Women's Aid be appropriate? Your DP does seem quite abusive and is causing damage to your DC. Maybe at least they could advise you.

I really think you'd be better home schooling for now so that you can remove the pressure of school. Obviously I don't have a crystal ball and your son might 'improve' but my DS dropped out of college and now does nothing and will possibly need me to support him for the foreseeable future. There's no point me stressing about it because I can't control him...all I can do is be understanding and kind and hope that he finds his way. On a positive note, he used to be very angry and argumentative and he hardly ever is now at 22. Stress plus testosterone isn't a good combination.

Please try not to listen to the people on here going on about you not working....that always happens on here. Of course you haven't been able to work given the situation at home. Plus who cares? Not working is not a moral failure and you don't have to justify your actions to the harsh, insensitive of mumsnet. It reminds me of that meme "If you want advice with your autistic children, ask someone with neurotypical children - they have all the answers".

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:42

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 14:35

At which point she will have to get off her bum and pay her own bills and parent the kids alone

No-one is denying that. Not even OP as she says that’s why she needs to work. My point is that there is clearly a lot more going on here than meets the the eye, and it’s clear from what OP has posted that Dp doesn’t understand autism and has no intention of learning.

justasking111 · 04/09/2025 14:39

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 14:34

Sorry does that make it okay to physically assault people then?

No it isn't okay and an insult to parents with an autistic child who has learnt actions have consequences.

Millytante · 04/09/2025 14:39

craigth162 · 03/09/2025 22:10

Why did DD not go to school?

Yes, that was my first thought

justasking111 · 04/09/2025 14:36

This summer has been really hard. DS has been difficult to live with. He is angry a lot of the time and everything is an argument. His anxiety is still there and when he is stressed it turns into lashing out verbally and sometimes physically. We have had things thrown, doors slammed, endless shouting matches. It has been exhausting, I think it's mostly due to puberty as he's had a growth spurt recently and his voice has dropped

He's 14 years old, 5' 5" lashing out verbally and physically. Fast forward four years, he'll be a lot taller, stronger. His anger which is bad now will be worse. It's not just puberty this is it going forward. No consequences, just indulgence.

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 14:35

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:19

Well there is obviously an ongoing problem with her DP or she wouldn’t be preparing to leave him.

At which point she will have to get off her bum and pay her own bills and parent the kids alone

katepilar · 04/09/2025 14:34

beAsensible1 · 04/09/2025 11:15

Exactly physical violence even during a meltdown requires consequences. Pushing someone off who is punching you is a very normal reaction.

especially if you haven’t had training in any safe restraint techniques for sen children.

I agree its a normal reaction if it happens straight away. OP said that her husband came back after a moment and pushed him.

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 14:34

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:12

You missed that her son has autism and significant mental health problems then ?

Sorry does that make it okay to physically assault people then?

Nostylequeen · 04/09/2025 14:30

@Rosscameasdoodyand he can only access music from a phone? No where else?

OfTheNight · 04/09/2025 14:29

OP - how well do you understand your son’s diagnosis? What strategies have you been given to help him? Have you reached out to any charities? What support could the college SEND team offer?

I feel there’s a degree of limiting belief here - he must have his phone or he can’t regulate
he must not be driven to college as he will expect that forever
he is angry and therefore lashes out.

i know first hand how incredibly challenging raising an ND child is, but there are some excellent ways you can support DS to be more accepting of change and manage his emotions appropriately.

I won’t comment on your DP other than to say that only you really know what’s going on in your relationship and what his reaction to the kids missing school means in a wider context.

PinkFrogss · 04/09/2025 14:27

Rosscameasdoody · 04/09/2025 14:19

Well there is obviously an ongoing problem with her DP or she wouldn’t be preparing to leave him.

I agree it’s best for them all if the relationship ended. OP has only mentioned financial issues and this occasion of aggression though and hasn’t suggested he has any history of physical and verbal aggression like her son does.

As I mentioned in a previous post OP needs to make a plan to leave him that doesn’t rely on her going to a women’s domestic abuse shelter or what may be inappropriate temporary accommodation. I also don’t think she should wait until she’s working and has a secure income as that sounds a way off.

edit: pressed post before I meant to. I imagine her partner would also say there are ongoing problems. Hence why OP needs to take control of the situation and figure out her options before she’s left scrambling because he’s left. Acting sooner rather than later is in everyone’s best interests here

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