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Buying house - homeless outside

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Whatinthedoopla · 03/09/2025 21:21

Hi,

I'm buying a house, and opposite the garden is the community car park. Area is lovely, people are lovely. However, I've noticed thpere has been a van parked right outside the garden (obviously in a parking space), and has been there for weeks. I thought nothing of it, then saw they they open the door and it looks like people live in it! And they look homeless, I saw they legs popping out of the van.

The house has now been emptied, and I'm worried that the homeless people are going into the garden to get water from the tap outside.

My partner isn't worried, but I am, or AIBU?

What should I do?

OP posts:
Whatinthedoopla · 04/09/2025 19:11

NoisyMoose · 04/09/2025 18:07

Maybe they have made up a whole life in their heads for the strange person who keeps driving past and staring at them, plus they were there first

They were not there first, they have only been there for about a week

OP posts:
NoisyMoose · 04/09/2025 18:07

Maybe they have made up a whole life in their heads for the strange person who keeps driving past and staring at them, plus they were there first

GAJLY · 04/09/2025 16:53

Whatinthedoopla · 04/09/2025 15:30

The sign says no overnight vehicles can stay there

Take a photo and send it to them. See if you can move them on.

Northquit · 04/09/2025 16:04

Does Alan Bennett live nearby?

Catwalking · 04/09/2025 15:41

Whatinthedoopla · 04/09/2025 15:30

The sign says no overnight vehicles can stay there

Perfect. You’ll be able to contact the authority which posted the sign.
I’d be doing so asap… start how you mean to go on. 👍😊

Whatinthedoopla · 04/09/2025 15:30

Catwalking · 04/09/2025 11:55

is the vehicle road taxed- u can look up the registration no. online etc
also think there’s a specific period of time a vehicle can b parked in a particular spot? Could be worth getting your Surveyor to look into this?

The sign says no overnight vehicles can stay there

OP posts:
Cucy · 04/09/2025 15:12

butterflybreeches · 04/09/2025 14:41

@Cucy
"Do you often make up fake scenarios in your head?"

Do you have an inability to follow logic?

"OP says she goes there every day and has never come across anyone disposing of their waste inappropriately."

What, she watches them all day and all night? If I had that much time on my hands I'd take up birdwatching.🙄

They could be dumping it it somewhere else under cover of darkness..

Why make an issue out of something that’s not even happening.

We don't know what they do with it and neither do you.

Edited

This is a non issue.

OP goes there everyday and has not come across any human waste or any other issues.

So what they’re doing with it is irrelevant in this situation because it doesn’t affect OP.

LeticiaMorales · 04/09/2025 15:05

Whatinthedoopla · 04/09/2025 12:33

I'm there every day, there are people living in it

Right, because you had only seen legs on one occasion, as I understood it, so thanks for the update.

butterflybreeches · 04/09/2025 14:41

@Cucy
"Do you often make up fake scenarios in your head?"

Do you have an inability to follow logic?

"OP says she goes there every day and has never come across anyone disposing of their waste inappropriately."

What, she watches them all day and all night? If I had that much time on my hands I'd take up birdwatching.🙄

They could be dumping it it somewhere else under cover of darkness..

Why make an issue out of something that’s not even happening.

We don't know what they do with it and neither do you.

SisterTeatime · 04/09/2025 14:35

MollyMollyMandy33 · 04/09/2025 12:27

If you are worried that they might disturb ‘your’ street ‘in any way whatsoever’ I think you should definitely report them to the police now. And the council. I’m sure that they will be straight round to deal with it for you. Also stealing water, there are so few places that people can get water, this would be a real worry for me too. People living outside in a van, even if you just noticed that they are there because they have been so quiet, are such a risk. Especially in ‘nice’ areas.
Or perhaps, if you see them, you could be friendly and say hi. Perhaps you could even try smiling. It might just build up a little bit of a rapport for the time that they are there, since they are also human beings.

Thanks so much for this offensive virtue signalling valuable input

Cucy · 04/09/2025 14:32

butterflybreeches · 04/09/2025 13:48

If they are emptying it correctly in a registered campsite then there will be a charge.

It seems bonkers to me to drive all the way to a campsite just to empty the lavvy.
They will need to pay the charge and also the fuel to get there. It would probably be cheaper to camp there.

The OP can't monitor them day and night. Just because OP has seen no inappropriate behaviour apart from the van being parked up every day, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Do you often make up fake scenarios in your head?

OP says she goes there every day and has never come across anyone disposing of their waste inappropriately.

Why make an issue out of something that’s not even happening.

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 04/09/2025 13:57

Gosh, this thread has really grown legs Grin!

I'd add - I'm on various FB groups with van lifers because of my interest in a particular car/van. Many people who do it take it incredibly seriously - there are lots of discussions about where to park, wee and poo, do ones ablutions, receive mail etc. So the idea that it must be a feckless person who brings a load of social problems and is likely to steal, trespass etc - I don't see it.

butterflybreeches · 04/09/2025 13:48

Cucy · 04/09/2025 13:40

Who says they’re not emptying it correctly?

OP has seen no inappropriate behaviour apart from the van being parked up every day.

If they are emptying it correctly in a registered campsite then there will be a charge.

It seems bonkers to me to drive all the way to a campsite just to empty the lavvy.
They will need to pay the charge and also the fuel to get there. It would probably be cheaper to camp there.

The OP can't monitor them day and night. Just because OP has seen no inappropriate behaviour apart from the van being parked up every day, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Cucy · 04/09/2025 13:40

butterflybreeches · 04/09/2025 13:35

"Many vans are like campervans and have toilets in them."

Yes and they have to be emptied in special facilities at registered campsites because they have chemicals in them -- not down the nearest drain, or in someone's front garden

Who says they’re not emptying it correctly?

OP has seen no inappropriate behaviour apart from the van being parked up every day.

butterflybreeches · 04/09/2025 13:35

Cucy · 04/09/2025 12:02

Many vans are like campervans and have toilets in them.
Or they use public toilets.

Do you think they’re also shitting in your garden?

Do you actually want to move or are you using this as an excuse?

"Many vans are like campervans and have toilets in them."

Yes and they have to be emptied in special facilities at registered campsites because they have chemicals in them -- not down the nearest drain, or in someone's front garden

Dragonflydancer · 04/09/2025 13:32

Go andsay hi, get the lowdown first hand

HerewardtheSleepy · 04/09/2025 13:28

crackofdoom · 03/09/2025 21:24

What should you do?

Count yourself lucky that you are able to afford a secure roof over your head, unlike the hundreds of thousands of people in this country who can't.

That's what you should do.

Weather nice up on the moral high-ground today?

SeaAndStars · 04/09/2025 13:24

From this thread OP you can see that some people have a live and let live about this issue and some don't.

It seems to me that buying a house near a public facility like a car park is always going to cause you concern. Who's there? What are they doing? Are they in your space? Are they a threat?

As that's the case perhaps you need to rethink buying the house. There are plenty of houses away from stuff that might make you cautious.

SeaAndStars · 04/09/2025 13:20

Petitchat · 04/09/2025 11:16

And who can blame them?

Exactly. Who knows anyone else's circumstances.

LatteLady · 04/09/2025 12:52

Oh for pities' sake @Whatinthedoopla give your head a wobble... they will not be interested in your water or squatting, they are living their own lives quite happily. Your partner has already explained that they are not worried. Frankly, it seems from your posts that wheresoever you might live, you will be frightened by something. The van people are not in the least bit interested by you and I suggest that you reciprocate and just leave them alone until or if, they genuinely give you something to be concerned about.

GarlicPint · 04/09/2025 12:36

WiddlinDiddlin · 04/09/2025 10:55

Wellllll... it is likely that they are stolen legs.

😂😂

pokewoman · 04/09/2025 12:36

We live in a very popular coastal tourist destination and have van lifers around all year. They are mostly brilliant. The vast majority of van lovers just want to park somewhere safe and secure and are very conscious about how and where they dispose their waste and how they access water. They know that treat somewhere with respect, most people won't mind, and so do. More problems are caused by tourists spending a weekend in their motor home than full time van lifers.

I have a "car park' outside my house where we all park and I can see a van there now that's been there for about 3 days. No problem.

Whatinthedoopla · 04/09/2025 12:33

LeticiaMorales · 04/09/2025 09:23

Do you know for sure that people are living in it? Is there only leg evidence?

I'm there every day, there are people living in it

OP posts:
GarlicPint · 04/09/2025 12:32

Kubricklayer · 04/09/2025 09:27

So like I said you've clearly shown interest in the car park over the back of you, enough to research the van life website, and made yourself aware of the available facilities they would likely be using and what condition they're in (cleaned every night) etc. Based on what you've found it's clearly alleviated any concerns you were harbouring.

Edited

What a lovely bit of imaginative construction 🙂

What really happened: there was a long van life thread in here; it interested me. I checked out the websites mentioned, naturally zooming in on my town. As I said, I've never seen or heard any hassle in the ten years I've been here so had no reason to 'investigate'. There are usually a few lorries and vans there overnight, as I've noticed since learning about this: I can see the car park from my flat.

The other thing I learned is that there are enough van dwellers on Mumsnet to build a long discussion!

MollyMollyMandy33 · 04/09/2025 12:27

SisterTeatime · 04/09/2025 08:22

Sorry, I haven’t RTFT, but I have someone who seems to live in a campervan outside my house part of the time. They are so quiet I didn’t realise there was ever anyone in the van until my DH mentioned it. However, if I thought they were using my water or if they disturbed me in any way whatsoever I’d be on the phone to the council and possibly the police before you could say knife. So I totally get why you are concerned. I would speak to the council now and also speak to your solicitor and find out where you stand.

If you are worried that they might disturb ‘your’ street ‘in any way whatsoever’ I think you should definitely report them to the police now. And the council. I’m sure that they will be straight round to deal with it for you. Also stealing water, there are so few places that people can get water, this would be a real worry for me too. People living outside in a van, even if you just noticed that they are there because they have been so quiet, are such a risk. Especially in ‘nice’ areas.
Or perhaps, if you see them, you could be friendly and say hi. Perhaps you could even try smiling. It might just build up a little bit of a rapport for the time that they are there, since they are also human beings.