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AIBU to seek a consensus on who is a socially acceptable recipitent of Mounjaro?

266 replies

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 19:05

So it seems that much of mumsnet and society judge users of WLI extremely harshly seeing them as fat and lazy people who should just eat less, move more and use more willpower. But apparently not all of us, some of us after divulging enough medical history as 'okay'..."not you just the other fatties!!"

So, are people with diagnosed endocrine and metabolic conditions, acceptable?

What about people with undiagnosed endocrine and metabolic disorders, it's taken me over a decade to get to the point i am now, which is under endcrinology with a confirmed 'problem' and a working diagnosis but nothing more, my story is sadly far from unusual. You don't know who they are, they don't know who they are (although they may have astrong inkling), quite the conundrum!!

What about people with diagnosed Type 2 diabetes, who once were also just fat people without type 2 diabetes (mostly)?

What about people who are just fat now but statistically likely to develop type 2 diabetes in the future, like the current Type 2 diabetes patients were 10 years ago?

What about the people with severely disordered eating? As a society and a health service we deem it justifible and, hopefully preferrable to treat Anorexia Nervosa, including as inpatients at great expense (£500+ per day in the NHS), compared to treating an obese eating disordered patient with Mounjaro at a cost of approx £9 per day to the NHS for the highest dose. Presuambly in a civilised society we think that both groups of patients deserve a chance at a better quality life and improved life expextancy, and we dont think that Anorexics should just eat more and move less?!

So my AIBU is?
Are all of the above groups socially acceptable recipitents of Mounjaro?

YABU - no there are not all acceptable the gluttunous, lazy, weak willed cheats.

YANBU - of course they are all socially acceptable recipitents given that they meet the prescribing criteria for Mounjaro which has been accessed for Risk vs Benefit via peer reviewed research.

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 03/09/2025 19:29

Anyone who meets the nhs criteria should have it on the nhs.

It's better to prescribe something that will help people become healthier than to just leave people to struggle.

TheKeatingFive · 03/09/2025 19:25

I couldn't care less who takes it. If it's to be funded by the nhs, then medical need should definitely be a criteria though.

SunnySideDeepDown · 03/09/2025 19:24

Your post is very black and white. Believe one thing or the polar opposite, but life isn’t like that.

I do firmly believe people need to make better choices. Weekly takeaways, chocolate on the sofa, cans of pop everyday - very common and people need to accept the consequences of consuming that. Being accountable for their actions and choices.

But once someone is largely obese there’s probably no hope of them losing enough weight to be healthy on their own. So WLI have a place.

The problem though, is the next generation are still eating shittily so the situation isn’t improving. We need to be making fundamental changes as a society to how we view food. Every other shop is now a coffee shop for crying out loud.

BarnOwlFlying · 03/09/2025 19:23

Given the financial restraints the NHS is under, I feel the socially acceptable group are those that fit the NHS criteria.

HeinzTomato · 03/09/2025 19:21

I think most people don't care either way. There's a very limited pool of people who get it on the NHS and I'm sure a careful cost-benefit analysis has been done. If people want to pay for themselves then it's good that they can.

I suspect a very few people see gaining weight as a moral failing which ought to be atoned for through the mortification of the flesh, and the idea that someone might lose weight relatively easily probably irritates them. Not really worth worrying about those people though. If you'd rather not hear their views, don't share your medical situation.

smallpinecone · 03/09/2025 19:19

Who cares. If people can afford it, it’s no business of anyone else’s.

bigwhitedog · 03/09/2025 19:19

I personally think anyone who is overweight and wants to not be overweight should receive it. The NHS is pretty shit at cost / benefit analysis and it would surely save a fortune down the line in weight related conditions.

Elsvieta · 03/09/2025 19:19

Your body, your business - you don't need anyone else to "accept" it. (You don't need to tell them, either, if you'd rather not). I pay for my own MJ and it's nobody else's concern.

Complet · 03/09/2025 19:19

What vitriol have you experienced? I think if you have been prescribed it, then your friends and family should be supportive (they should be supportive anyway). You don’t need that negativity when you’re obviously going through a lot. I’d stop telling them things and think about getting new friends. If it’s just random people on the internet spewing rubbish, then just ignore it, those sort of people will argue with their own reflection. Just concentrate on you and being healthy.

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 03/09/2025 19:18

I don't give a flying fuck what people think about those of us who use WLI! I'm not ashamed in the slightest, nor do I feel the need to tell people my medical history. I'm also honest about being it when people comment on my weight loss. I don't care what anyone thinks, I'm nearly 3 stone down and only have 2 to go! I've been battling with my weight since my first pregnancy 22 years ago. This is the slimmest and healthiest I've been since I was 23!

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 19:16

Complet · 03/09/2025 19:11

Surely the prescribing doctors already have guidance on this, or do you think that they’re just handing (or not handing) it out willy nilly?

They do and the vast majority of people taking it will be accessing it legally and honestly by meeting the criteria of BMI >30 or >27 with a weight related condition or certain higher risk ethnicity

But this doesn't stop the vitriol.

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northernballer · 03/09/2025 19:14

NoSoupForU · 03/09/2025 19:08

I, like most people, don't care. I'm pretty bored of people moaning about not getting it on the NHS though.

Agreed.

And for me it's not really about what I want the NHS to stop funding but more about what they should start. There are things ahead of WLI on my wishlist.

PeonyPatch · 03/09/2025 19:14

I think they DO need to prescribe it on the NHS and lower the thresholds. BMI over 40 seems ridiculous. It’s not lazy and some of us have genuine, serious endocrine, hormone or insulin disorders. A population that is obese puts far greater strain on the healthcare and benefits system imo.

Complet · 03/09/2025 19:11

Surely the prescribing doctors already have guidance on this, or do you think that they’re just handing (or not handing) it out willy nilly?

Periperi2025 · 03/09/2025 19:10

NoSoupForU · 03/09/2025 19:08

I, like most people, don't care. I'm pretty bored of people moaning about not getting it on the NHS though.

Why?
What other drugs would you remove from the NHS funding list?

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NoSoupForU · 03/09/2025 19:08

I, like most people, don't care. I'm pretty bored of people moaning about not getting it on the NHS though.

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