To be worried about emigration

I know exactly how you feel. Cameron was a complete buffoon.

As a Remainer since the very first minute that dreadful referendum was announced (will NEVER forgive Cameron for that irresponsible decision), I absolutely hate being right about all of it. You have no idea how much I wanted to be proved wrong by Leavers.

@Grammarnut yes, Ireland’s success is built on sand and Trump has the country’s tax incentives well in his sights.

Completely agree. The media makes out that there's rioting, mugging, and God knows what else on every street corner. I'm not saying the country is without problems, but I also this we love a bit of negativity!

But will be hit soon by the EU's tax policies. Dublin has allowed huge tax breaks to companies such as Amazon but is facing the removal of their right to do this. 135 companies sounds a lot, but is a minute number of such companies in the City. London remains one of the greatest financial hubs of the world and the UK regulatory system is considered one of the best and safest, which is why companies want to locate here.

Right! Liz truss anyone 🙄

The Tories have presided over many recessions - more than Labour since the war, as well as various other economic crises such as sterling devaluations and bond market crises.

Some of these (under both parties) were triggered by global factors outside of the UK’s control like the 1973 oil price crisis and the 2007 credit crunch.

But you conveniently forgot all that, didn’t you? Because of course it’s always Labour who crashes the economy.

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

We are heading towards US?

You wish.

A quarter of the world’s GDP, high growth economy and a country that is self sufficient on energy. We could only dream of being like the US.

We should be worried about emigration.

Unfortunately the people emigrating all high earner, high skilled people. And people coming in are net takers on average. So guess what, the country gets poorer.

How genius of successive governments to replace high earning, net contributors with low or non earning net takers.

I think it’s excellent that people are able to leave when they want to. It’s not always possible to leave, of course. We can’t just emigrate easily and expect it all to go well in a new country. Where would we go? We have to prove a fairly high income and ensure employment in advance, it’s a lot of hoops to jump through to prove our worth.

Where are your neighbours going @YourOpenNavyAntthat salaries are way better and housing cost much less than the UK. It sounds good.

I’ve noticed this trend too. I know people who have left the UK for other EU countries. We are considering it as well. Our neighbours (both doctors from South Asia descent) are looking to move back to an Asian country!

What a mess!

I wonder if they also know how to exploit a country such as the UK for some of these rights. To be honest it does make me a bit cross. Though I do not agree with holding people in inhumane conditions.

Lol all these people who know YOU are leaving the UK..........

I don't know anyone who has or is planning to go. Nor do any of my 6 siblings.

It's you.

The grass is always greener on the other side! I emigrated overseas and it is not like it appears to be!! Very much not!! Those move to Australia tv shows? Don’t mention the cost of medical treatment!! The fact the public health system is so appalling you will
Have no choice but to go private! That private health insurance is part of the tax system and compulsory, you pay full price for all medication and there’s no discount like there is in the uk!! £4000 a month for one type of medication that was essential!! £150 to go see a go, £350 for a basic blood test etc etc! Cost of living in oz is way way higher than anywhere else in the world! Yes the pay is better but by the time you’ve taken off the cost of housing - also 10,000 x uk prices! - medical and food and bills then you’re living on credit cards

The poster I was responding to wanted spending on the NHS and welfare cut right back even more. Universal healthcare still exists in the UK and it’s something precious, as watching Call The Midwife was all about.

As in America the biggest beneficiaries of tax cuts are overwhelmingly the wealthiest, because you need decent tax against which to offset the cuts. That’s why Billionaires support right wing movements, not because they care about working class people.

Exactly.

Ireland is attracting inward investment because corporation tax rates are the lowest in the Anglophone world. No other reason.

It’s almost as if dismantling public services and transferring wealth upwards hasn’t magically made things better for ordinary people...who'd have thunk it?

Still I'm sure it'll work the next time we do it.

What social contract? Working people are paying for the triple lock for the largest proportion of pensioners we've ever had. I will retire if I'm lucky in 17 years. I doubt I'll get the triple lock. I doubt my kids will be entitled to a state pension at all.

Company I work for have divisions in quite a few different countries. I’m keeping an eye on what’s coming up with a view to look at transferring if the job and place is right.

Both ours have EU passports already been useful

I think there's a lot of people who think the grass is greener.

Meanwhile france are also in political turmoil struggling with a debt mountain

I have family in the US and Australia and neither are a bed of roses. Cost of living is lower in US but working culture is horrendous, there's a huge opiate and mental health crisis. In Australia house & childcare prices have rocketed. My colleague moved to London from Australia last year for better job prospects and is happy here.

It's long been that way. Many of our friends went to the ME in the early 1980s and came back once they had earned enough to buy their first house. I went to the US and returned once I had done likewise.

I'm entitled to another European passport. I can then nominate my children for one. They both want to live somewhere else. I dont blame them.