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DSD picking newborn up and putting him back in Moses basket

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Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 07:19

My DSD (12) was visiting, our newborn is 4 weeks old and still has a delicate neck. I am happy with DSD holding her brother as long as one of us has put him in a position that keeps his neck supported. She will hold him from time to time if we are in another room.

However to my horror the other day I saw her taking him out of his Moses basket and putting him back.

Am I being unreasonable in that I feel that’s a step too far?

OP posts:
New2you · 02/09/2025 08:43

As a young child my mother and I went to see a neighbours baby. I was much younger than your step daughter, I fully understood that I was too young to support the babies neck reliably however my mother did show me how it was done. I feel that at twelve if shown and assuming the twelve year old has no developmental issues it would be okay to show how to pickup and put down, once shown and practiced the worry of this could be avoided.

NapoleonsToe · 02/09/2025 08:41

Show her how to pick the baby up and put him down safely. Then trust her to do it.

Honestly it's an absolute non issue. And as for him crying, babies do that. As you're no doubt finding out.

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/09/2025 08:41

Oh good grief, poor DSD. Show her how to pick up and hold the baby properly and love that she's trying.

Octavia64 · 02/09/2025 08:41

We got kittens when my kids were about 8.

one day we came in from the garden to find that they had made a kitten “rollercoaster” and were pushing the kittens down a very steep slide.

we did a whole talk about how kittens have to be held very nicely and if they don’t like what you are doing then they will scratch you and bite you.

children will pick up kittens or a baby unless told not to. Even if told not to they’ll probably still do it (children generally liking to try things themselves and mostly not obeying adult instructions).

you need to sit both kids down, explain about the neck, show them how to do it safely and then tell them to get an adult.

FlowersandElephants · 02/09/2025 08:41

Why was the baby screaming? Did she actually hurt him?
My eldest was 10 when her sister was born and after showing her once how to pick her the baby up she was fine. In the time it took you to write this post you could have had a quick chat, they’re no need to be embarrassed

Rosscameasdoody · 02/09/2025 08:39

rainingsnoring · 02/09/2025 08:35

What a horrible post and destructive attitude towards the young DSS.

All @Pinkpetal9999 and her partner need to do is have a chat to the DSS about how to pick the baby up carefully, while supporting his neck. She is 12, not 2.

This poster has form for this on other threads.

Sh291 · 02/09/2025 08:39

First time she held the baby you and her dad should have discussed how to pick up the baby safely and explained why it was important.

When you saw her put the baby down it was a perfect time to explain to her how to do it safely. COMMUNICATE for gods sake. Shes 12, not 2. If she doesn't like to be told what to do or is sensitive then it's tough really isn't it. You and her Dad show her how to do it safely, involve her in nappy changes etc, give her some responsibility whilst your in the same room.

Rosscameasdoody · 02/09/2025 08:38

Probably one of the worst threads l’ve seen on MN. Vicious from the beginning stemming from the OP using the phrase ‘visiting’ when clearly everyone here knew exactly what she meant but the urge to pick up on a minute detail and turn it into something it’s not was just too much wasn’t it ?

OP l would ask for the thread to be taken down. Your words have been deliberately misinterpreted and no amount of updating will change that because posters will jump on and not bother to read the updates before posting that you are indeed a wicked stepmother. I really do think MN is sometimes just a means for some to hide behind a keyboard to say things they wouldn’t dream of saying to someone’s face.

Spottywellingtons · 02/09/2025 08:38

Certainly your posts read as if your DSD needs some more love and attention from you and less suspicion. Gently show her how to manage the baby (personally I would ignore the MW re feeds- and I’m a GP- attachment to family is important!!). And reflect on your wording in your posts which as many have said does appear to betray a particular attitude to your parenting. Consider looking at therapeutic parenting resources to help navigate the relationship with your SD. Dan Hughes is a good place to start. Congratulations on the new addition.

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 02/09/2025 08:37

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 07:28

we have no issues here holding the baby.

its the safe removal and putting down of the child whilst he’s still so delicate.

No she did not which completely took me back, I didn’t want to embarrass her by explaining what she had done as she’s quite sensitive but neither of us have ever shown her how to do it either

Oh FFS - there are ways of communicating that wouldn't embarrass her!

BoredZelda · 02/09/2025 08:36

Falseknock · 02/09/2025 08:32

There are some woke midwifes out there today. That has never been said to me. More pressure on being the perfect mother.

Please learn what woke means if you want to throw it about like an insult.

Falseknock · 02/09/2025 08:35

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:29

@JJMama yes correct, happy to let the frequently run Midwife led NHS antenatal class know your thoughts though?

Come on think sensibly you are talking to parents who have gone through it themselves.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 02/09/2025 08:35

Blended family bliss.

rainingsnoring · 02/09/2025 08:35

Emmafuller79 · 02/09/2025 08:09

Your the mum you. protect YOUR baby. You don’t protect the wants of another child whose old enough to no better and isn’t even YOUR OWN
child
😡

What a horrible post and destructive attitude towards the young DSS.

All @Pinkpetal9999 and her partner need to do is have a chat to the DSS about how to pick the baby up carefully, while supporting his neck. She is 12, not 2.

BoredZelda · 02/09/2025 08:35

catom · 02/09/2025 07:44

Yup! Can’t say anything on Mumsnet (should of said bio kid the responses would be much different)

I think if she had said her bio son was visiting, the responses would be similar.

But I’m guessing by the fact she tagged you when you weren’t on the post, she was aiming for a situation where she could claim this would turn into “wicked stepmother” post. Funny she hasn’t said why she hasn’t taught her step daughter how to pick up a baby. Mine was 6 when she first held a baby and we explained it to her.

ComfortFoodCafe · 02/09/2025 08:33

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:26

@Falseknock my midwife said for the “4th trimester” whilst baby figures out the world and who is who, to keep feeding to just the two of us. So that he can associate our smell with being fed and identify us as his care givers. Apparently passing them around to everyone and letting different people do things such as feeding can cause babies to be overstimulated and confused… ultimately leading to a terrible couple of days restlessness

What utter rubbish.

Falseknock · 02/09/2025 08:32

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:26

@Falseknock my midwife said for the “4th trimester” whilst baby figures out the world and who is who, to keep feeding to just the two of us. So that he can associate our smell with being fed and identify us as his care givers. Apparently passing them around to everyone and letting different people do things such as feeding can cause babies to be overstimulated and confused… ultimately leading to a terrible couple of days restlessness

There are some woke midwifes out there today. That has never been said to me. More pressure on being the perfect mother.

user1492757084 · 02/09/2025 08:31

Confidently, and gently, just explain that DB and DS are not to pick up their baby sibling without asking first.
You, the mother, need to decide whether the baby is trying to sleep, is resting after a feed or is ready for some sibling affection.
Also instruct them both how and why to safely pick up their brother and how to support his head. You should be there in the same room as they pick him up until they display the correct and careful technique.

Pigsinblankets13 · 02/09/2025 08:31

Jesus Christ. Poor girl.

Noelshighflyingturds · 02/09/2025 08:29

Emmafuller79 · 02/09/2025 08:11

Gentle chat don’t cut it

thr 12 yr old should. Be told to leave baby alone or there’s a real consequence

Ooooooh consequences ????
Consequences will be that she doesn’t want to visit her father’s home and all the drama that comes with that 🙄

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:29

@JJMama yes correct, happy to let the frequently run Midwife led NHS antenatal class know your thoughts though?

OP posts:
Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:28

@Checkard I think this is what we are going to do when they are both together so nobody feels like they’re getting the blame.

not that my son will, he couldn’t care less about the baby, he cares more about if his games are being touched.

OP posts:
JJMama · 02/09/2025 08:27

Falseknock · 02/09/2025 08:23

I've had 4 children your midwife said what?
You believe it?

Confusion about who feeds the baby?! 🤣

Blessthismess2 · 02/09/2025 08:27

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:03

@Blessthismess2 yes I’m the wicked evil step mother that treats all children differently.

it’s one rule for all in our house.

that includes waiting for LO to be older before moving him around. Ask us to hold him, not a problem. Anything else we’ve agreed we do ourselves.

i understand the suggestion around feeding, but our midwife advised to keep feeding to just the two of us, to save confusion and make sure LO is clear who does that. Lots have changed in 11 years so it’s COMPLETELY different to having children 2 years apart

Fair enough- I’m sure you are not an “evil step mum” and I’m sure you mean to do your very best by your SDC and have good intentions . But it is a tricky relationship, and this is a situation where you have clearly overreacted to something innocent and minor. You also describe your SDC as “sensitive”. This might be a helpful opportunity to reflect on the broader context of the relationship, which sounds like the more pertinent issue here than a 12 year old picking up a baby.. Just my 2 cents.

Namechangerage · 02/09/2025 08:26

Emmafuller79 · 02/09/2025 08:22

did you read what the OP said? I won’t stoop to your level and swear about it. If that was your baby would you allow it?

Your response was a tad dramatic though 🤣

PROTECT YOUR BABY AGAINST THE EVIL STEPSISTER!!!!

Just no!! All OP needs to do is ask DSD not to pick baby up without you there, to be safe. Say that she is very welcome to have a cuddle and you can bring baby over and teach her what to do. Why does it even matter that the stepdaughter isn’t her biological daughter?

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