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To be shocked people are actually rear-facing their primary age kids

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EmsandPens · 02/09/2025 02:44

My DD is 4, 5 in December and we swapped her from rear facing to forward facing in January this year. She started primary school recently and I noticed one of her classmates is still rear facing. I know the family from around town but had never seen them putting their kids in the car before and I know this child is already 5 and has pretty long legs for her age.

I know on Mumsnet it’s quite common to hear people saying rear facing until 6/7 is best but I had never actually seen anyone around here doing it.

AIBU to be shocked people actually rear face their primary age children?
Did you rear face your child past 4?

OP posts:
lochmaree · 02/09/2025 20:39

Pp's mentioning kids seen on the school run etc in the front seat or no seatbelt etc. I've seen this too and imo is far more shocking than a child in a RF seat! I've seen a YR 4/5 yo in the front passenger seat with no car seat, a 2yo in a car seat FF in the front passenger seat, kids not restrained at all when the car is still moving.

Chocolateismylovelife · 02/09/2025 18:21

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 17:28

There's no room for a lol on a thread about car safety

lol was at my idea of making cars with rear facing seats, but apologies if it upset you.

bootle96 · 02/09/2025 17:58

PigletSanders · 02/09/2025 07:31

It’s bullshit like this that I can’t stand.

Instead of sneering, if it’s something you feel strongly about, try to share information with someone to educate them.

Honestly, the preachy posts on here rival the BF/FF threads on here.

There’s loads of info online about why rear facing is safer. It’s the law in many other countries to be rear facing for far longer than it is here. My children are teenagers but we sat them rear facing for as long as possible. We’ve only ever had small cars, there wasn’t much choice on rear facing seats then but there were some suitable. I Hopefully there is more choice now.

Ask any health professionals who work with children in critical care or in rehabilitation how what seats they use. They will all have their children rear facing for as long as possible and in seats with 5 point harnesses after that. Boosters with normal seat belts will not protect in an accident.

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 17:28

Chocolateismylovelife · 02/09/2025 12:57

No mention of that at all my dear , and no I never considered consulting a car safety expert when I bought car seats. I consulted the staff at the shop where I bought them from and who trained in fitting the seats safely.

it’s obvious from this thread that times may have changed regarding advice on this , I understand ops shock as do many.

insinuating that I lol at internal decapitation is as sick as your suggestion itself.

There's no room for a lol on a thread about car safety

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 17:25

Happytoddler · 02/09/2025 11:21

A toddler screaming and crying and throwing up may distract the driver. A quiet happy child who isn’t miserable and sick means that the driver is less likely to crash the car. Also, not everyone has a huge car to fit the bulky rear facing car seat.

Our erf seats took up no more space than the other car seats..

bumbaloo · 02/09/2025 17:16

cornflourblue · 02/09/2025 13:05

I think most parents do their best for their DC, according to the information available to them at the time. It is clear that many posters do/did not ERF, for many reasons - there's no need to be rude to them.

FWIW my DC were over 135cm by age 7/8. When I asked advice from a car safety expert about how to best keep them safely secured in a car seat, they just kept repeating they needed to be in a high backed booster til 12 - they couldnt compute my DC (unfortunately not with me at the time), could be that tall. At 12, DC1 was 160+cm - taller than many adults. I could not get a sensible answer.

There will likely still be someone on here decrying that you were abusive and that they should have been pretzelled in

bumbaloo · 02/09/2025 17:13

Turnups · 02/09/2025 04:54

Why is it shocking? Research shows backward-facing is safer. My youngest moved to forward-facing last month. He’s a small 7.

Edited

Why aren’t cars just made with rear facing passenger seats?

Spookyspaghetti · 02/09/2025 17:11

Cyantist · 02/09/2025 11:52

My DD had just finished reception when we swapped her to forward facing. I was much more shocked that there were so many kids in her class who got into cars at school pick up and had no seat at all - not even a booster.
Rear-facing is much much safer and as I bought an expensive rear facing seat, I was going to get as much use out of it as possible!

On a car journey the other day, I looked over to see a primary aged child in the front passenger seat jumping about not even with an adult seatbelt. All other passengers in the car were adults wearing seatbelts. Now that is shocking IMO!

Skyglimmer · 02/09/2025 17:01

My youngest is starting school this week and is still rear facing. She isn't tall enough for a high back booster so will stay rear facing until she is, which will likely be around Christmas just before she turns 5. We did the same with her older brother.

Spookyspaghetti · 02/09/2025 16:58

Take a look at some of the Facebook car seat advice pages and educate yourself about the benefits of rear facing for as long as possible.

I don’t think you should be affronted at other parents keeping their children as safe as possible.

Wynter25 · 02/09/2025 16:48

My 3 year old doesn't rear face.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 02/09/2025 16:48

Op1n1onsPlease · 02/09/2025 11:33

You don’t need a huge car to fit the ERF seats.

Car sickness I think is a bit of a red herring. All babies have to rear face and I don’t think there are massive numbers of parents crashing their cars because their babies are crying. My kids screamed their heads off in the car as babies, but we coped with it because it was essential for their safety.

I know a lot of people who don't take their babies in the car because the screaming is just relentless. Or, if they do, it's only if they can have another adult sat in the back to supervise/distract.

I was a child who really struggled with car sickness and my parents had me in the front seat as soon as possible, otherwise I would vomit every single time. I can't imagine how horrendous it would have been to be in the back AND rear facing.

Annoyeddd · 02/09/2025 16:43

The advised age is 17 when you get them driving lessons and their first car so they can go out with their mates

hungrypanda4 · 02/09/2025 16:40

IKnowExactly · 02/09/2025 03:39

Yes, I did. This was over 10 years ago.

One child outgrew it on weight at aged 5, the other was 7.

7?!?!

gamerchick · 02/09/2025 16:39

I rear face when I get the chance. Why wouldn't you?

InMyShowgirlEra · 02/09/2025 16:37

RoseAlone · 02/09/2025 09:54

My 3 all came out of rear facing when they came out of baby carriers, around 9 - 12 months with no issues at all and they could see where they were.

Gosh, I bet you shiver when you think about how they would all have almost certainly been killed if you'd been in a serious accident. Thank goodness we have more information to make safer decisions now.

FancyCatSlave · 02/09/2025 16:21

We swapped at 2, I’d have liked to keep rear facing longer but STBX wouldn’t and once he swapped to forward facing in his car there was no way DD would comply. To be honest it has helped her car sickness so it wasn’t entirely a bad decision.

I wouldn’t be shocked at 6 though, although I haven’t personally known anyone beyond 4 that has.

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 16:17

RoseAlone · 02/09/2025 09:54

My 3 all came out of rear facing when they came out of baby carriers, around 9 - 12 months with no issues at all and they could see where they were.

They could see where they were, omg

hellohellooo · 02/09/2025 13:25

IKnowExactly · 02/09/2025 03:42

My kids both found it uncomfortable when they forward faced and had their legs dangling down.

They loved rear facing. There was room for their legs and they had a better view out of the car windows.

We were in a car accident where a car hit us at five from behind. We had whiplash but the kids were absolutely fine which I put down to them being rear facing.

Wow !!!!!

That's a lesson for us all

Sorry to hear that xx

TranscendentTiger · 02/09/2025 13:22

My kids did. They were rear facing until they outgrew the seats, at ages 8, 6 and 7 respectively. It never occurred to me to put them in a less safe car seat until they were too big (tall or heavy) for the safer options.

That was over 10 years ago. I'm surprised it's not more common by now.

StacieBenson · 02/09/2025 13:13

Feels like the ridicule is coming from people who don't see the value in ERF. I've lost count of the number of times you see snide comments about facing the seat/looking uncomfortable etc. If ERF doesn't work for you, fine, but don't attack parents who want their kids to be as safe as possible in the car.

cornflourblue · 02/09/2025 13:05

I think most parents do their best for their DC, according to the information available to them at the time. It is clear that many posters do/did not ERF, for many reasons - there's no need to be rude to them.

FWIW my DC were over 135cm by age 7/8. When I asked advice from a car safety expert about how to best keep them safely secured in a car seat, they just kept repeating they needed to be in a high backed booster til 12 - they couldnt compute my DC (unfortunately not with me at the time), could be that tall. At 12, DC1 was 160+cm - taller than many adults. I could not get a sensible answer.

SailingYachty · 02/09/2025 13:04

I am surprised by that, most of the primary kids round here seem to be out of car seats entirely! I’ve seen quite a few in front seats too which I haven’t let mine do yet.

Chocolateismylovelife · 02/09/2025 12:57

Rowen32 · 02/09/2025 07:53

I love how you lol at internal decapitation. Maybe take your advice from car safety experts.

No mention of that at all my dear , and no I never considered consulting a car safety expert when I bought car seats. I consulted the staff at the shop where I bought them from and who trained in fitting the seats safely.

it’s obvious from this thread that times may have changed regarding advice on this , I understand ops shock as do many.

insinuating that I lol at internal decapitation is as sick as your suggestion itself.

5foot5 · 02/09/2025 12:48

TheNightingalesStarling · 02/09/2025 11:35

Minimum age changed to 15months in 2017, so in childcare terms very recent.

Ha, yes! Mine graduated in 2017 so definitely not an issue for us!