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If one was to ‘find’ some spray paint how might one amusingly deface a St George’s Cross (hypothetically ofc)

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Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 19:29

Just as the title says really. We’ve thought of a game of noughts and crosses but figured you Vipers might have a good idea of some other visual effects that could be added. TIA

You are being unreasonable = stop
spoiling the knuckledraggers fun

you are not being unreasonable = crack on gals!

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Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 21:15

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:10

So - what’s your idea for me and my spray can now?

Throw it it in the recycling.

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 21:14

Digidestined · 01/09/2025 21:06

The performative outrage is funny. Just report it or don't. No need to announce "I am SO offended! I MIGHT report it!"

Also it's absolutely clear that no one is talking about defacing real flags flown properly on public buildings, they're talking about defacing the shit graffiti done by racists to intimidate immigrants. If that offends you it's clear what kind of person you are, and trust me, no one cares about those kinds of people being offended. The kind of person offended by anti racism might just not be that nice... You know?

And don't try to claim it's nothing to do with racism and claim it's patriotism and people being proud of being English. We all know this is "operation fly the flag" endorsed by Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage and others of their ilk. We all know what it means.

At least 20 people agree with me that it's funny so I'm not that concerned about your 15.

You must be right. I am not allowed to be annoyed at people wanting to deface my country's flag.. Nothing to do with any of the dickheads painting red crosses.

MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly · 01/09/2025 21:14

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 01/09/2025 21:11

Ah but @Namechangechangeobv vandalism is righteous and educated remember.
Showing the 'knuckle draggers' who's in charge.

Just calm down and get a sense of humour will you?? Or maybe change your username to pamisfunatparties

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 01/09/2025 21:14

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:10

So - what’s your idea for me and my spray can now?

Spray a nice big sign outside your house
" I am the best, follow me for righteous words and direction"?

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 01/09/2025 21:11

FreyjaOfTheNorth · 01/09/2025 21:08

So you don’t like the vandalism but you’re going to deal with that by creating more vandalism. How old are you?

Ah but @Namechangechangeobv vandalism is righteous and educated remember.
Showing the 'knuckle draggers' who's in charge.

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:10

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 21:09

Yes I am triggered. And yes, you very much should have been more clear. Apology accepted.

So - what’s your idea for me and my spray can now?

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DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 01/09/2025 21:10

Also, you can get England flag thongs and mankinis. If we're talking about desecrating the flag, I think Pete from Basildon's sweaty bollocks are more of an issue than some googly eyes on a graffiti'd roundabout in the grand scheme of things.

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:09

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 01/09/2025 21:06

"Yay Women's Rugby" or something like that?

I can't get over all the wide eyed fake naivety of "what do you mean its been used as a racist symbol? This has never happened before!".

My area of Wales was the first place the Welsh flags started popping up as part of this "operation raise the colours" (something like that), and the general reaction from normal people was "oh no, they're trying to make it like the English flag".

It's a very predictable pattern. The English flag was associated with a lot of general violence and thuggery which slid into xenophobic / racist violence over time, largely because it was perpetuated by people draped in England flags or wearing England football shirts and that image stuck.

Then, because that image has stuck, those same people complain "you can't fly an English flag these days or you get called racist / a thug". Normally reasonable people then start to think "well, you know, they've got a point - why can't we put our flags up without being called racist or thugs?".

Meanwhile, the people shouting the loudest are forcing the association between the flag and racist / thug behaviour by graffiting the flag in places or accompanying it with slogans of "stop the boats" or "go back home". They create the link between the rhetoric and the flags, but when people take the flags down, it's "they want us to stop waving our flags! They want to take away our national identity!".

It's a very deliberate attempt to covertly link the flag to views ranging from concerns about immigration to outright racial hatred, because the two then become intertwined. You can't then challenge the views, because then you're criticised for hating the flag. It's a very useful shield for cowards.

This 🫶🏾

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Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 21:09

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:06

My apologies. I’m sorry you feel triggered. I should have been more clear. The St George’s crosses I alluded to look like my 4 year old made them and got my 7 year old to steal some cable ties from my shed to attach them to the roundabout at Tesco.

Yes I am triggered. And yes, you very much should have been more clear. Apology accepted.

Catchee · 01/09/2025 21:08

smallpinecone · 01/09/2025 20:00

Should people do this to all the flags they dislike? I assume you think they’re all fair game OP.

Ukrainian flags? Or Palestinian flags? Or Pride flags? Hmmm…

I have seen some turned into the pride flag.

FreyjaOfTheNorth · 01/09/2025 21:08

So you don’t like the vandalism but you’re going to deal with that by creating more vandalism. How old are you?

PleaseStopEatingMyStuff · 01/09/2025 21:07

Why would you deface (presumably) your own country's flag?
Horrible behaviour. Leave it alone or move abroad.

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:06

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 21:02

The OP is not talking about the crosses that have appeared. They have specifically asked how you would deface the St Georges Cross - its not on. Edited - spelling.

Edited

My apologies. I’m sorry you feel triggered. I should have been more clear. The St George’s crosses I alluded to look like my 4 year old made them and got my 7 year old to steal some cable ties from my shed to attach them to the roundabout at Tesco.

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DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 01/09/2025 21:06

"Yay Women's Rugby" or something like that?

I can't get over all the wide eyed fake naivety of "what do you mean its been used as a racist symbol? This has never happened before!".

My area of Wales was the first place the Welsh flags started popping up as part of this "operation raise the colours" (something like that), and the general reaction from normal people was "oh no, they're trying to make it like the English flag".

It's a very predictable pattern. The English flag was associated with a lot of general violence and thuggery which slid into xenophobic / racist violence over time, largely because it was perpetuated by people draped in England flags or wearing England football shirts and that image stuck.

Then, because that image has stuck, those same people complain "you can't fly an English flag these days or you get called racist / a thug". Normally reasonable people then start to think "well, you know, they've got a point - why can't we put our flags up without being called racist or thugs?".

Meanwhile, the people shouting the loudest are forcing the association between the flag and racist / thug behaviour by graffiting the flag in places or accompanying it with slogans of "stop the boats" or "go back home". They create the link between the rhetoric and the flags, but when people take the flags down, it's "they want us to stop waving our flags! They want to take away our national identity!".

It's a very deliberate attempt to covertly link the flag to views ranging from concerns about immigration to outright racial hatred, because the two then become intertwined. You can't then challenge the views, because then you're criticised for hating the flag. It's a very useful shield for cowards.

Digidestined · 01/09/2025 21:06

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:55

Genuinely. Help me. 15 individuals already agree with me. Why is it OK to talk about defacing any flags?????? How disrespectful.

The performative outrage is funny. Just report it or don't. No need to announce "I am SO offended! I MIGHT report it!"

Also it's absolutely clear that no one is talking about defacing real flags flown properly on public buildings, they're talking about defacing the shit graffiti done by racists to intimidate immigrants. If that offends you it's clear what kind of person you are, and trust me, no one cares about those kinds of people being offended. The kind of person offended by anti racism might just not be that nice... You know?

And don't try to claim it's nothing to do with racism and claim it's patriotism and people being proud of being English. We all know this is "operation fly the flag" endorsed by Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage and others of their ilk. We all know what it means.

At least 20 people agree with me that it's funny so I'm not that concerned about your 15.

Unicorn34 · 01/09/2025 21:06

StormInaDcup99 · 01/09/2025 20:07

I'm not English but I find the OPs question so sad to read

It is the flag of your country and shouldn't be defaced.

I think people need to take pride in their flag and 'take it back' so to speak.

I think it's very sad that it seems to be seen (rightly or wrongly) by some as racist and I wished it drew people together rather than separating or dividing a country

Thank you x

Portakalkedi · 01/09/2025 21:05

Newsenmum · 01/09/2025 20:01

Making them into pride flags would be brilliant

I would be much more annoyed at pride flags than our national flag. What a ridiculous idea.

Gingernessy · 01/09/2025 21:05

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 20:49

Yep that’s a good one too. But a little tongue in cheek humour as well feels like a good option. Love the Googly eyes idea. But like others have said, it’s not difficult to fan the fires that seem to be burning. Hard to know whether to actually do something about it or just let it die out.

My heart just drops a little every time I go past one.

I agree . Sadly this is not all about racists - it's also alot of scared people struggling to afford the basics in life whilst feeling that a government who promised change couldn't care less about them or their families. Migrant hotels are an easy target and until something occurs that gives people hope again I think it going to be very difficult to sort out

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:04

I’m not interested in those who are going down the wide-eyed ‘it’s not racist, it’s just a flag’ route here but it’s interesting though how many people feel lighthearted mockery in the guise of some funny spraying over the (plastic spray painted hoarding ‘flag) could fuel support for Farage. It’s hard to know in these times what you can do which means taking a stand without fuelling this movement. Do we just sit back and say nothing? Is that better, or worse?

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Smilesinthesunshine · 01/09/2025 21:02

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:55

Genuinely. Help me. 15 individuals already agree with me. Why is it OK to talk about defacing any flags?????? How disrespectful.

It just comes down to immaturity and a lack of brain cells. All the snowflake, virtue signalling morons desperately want to accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being racist. It is just an easy, brainless retort.

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 21:02

Here4the · 01/09/2025 20:54

I get the flag out regularly for sports. I don't spray paint it on roundabouts in areas because they have lots of immigrants. Do you see how there's a difference?

The OP is not talking about the crosses that have appeared. They have specifically asked how you would deface the St Georges Cross - its not on. Edited - spelling.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/09/2025 21:02

I'm picturing Nasty Fucking Farage sad faced on the front page of the Daily Flail, bemoaning a google eyed flag as an, 'Assault on patriotism'. And the googly eyes just gazing out at the Flail's readers accusingly, but the readers being too thick to understand what the eyes are trying to tell them.

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:55

Digidestined · 01/09/2025 20:53

If you can't see that I can't help you.

Genuinely. Help me. 15 individuals already agree with me. Why is it OK to talk about defacing any flags?????? How disrespectful.

Here4the · 01/09/2025 20:54

BurlyShriggs · 01/09/2025 20:02

Why on earth is the England flag racist when I bet you wouldn’t say that about Scottish people waving their flags? If you have fallen for the narrative that it’s been appropriated by racists then the logical thing to do is to fly it yourself and show that it’s our national flag and not the property of racists.

I get the flag out regularly for sports. I don't spray paint it on roundabouts in areas because they have lots of immigrants. Do you see how there's a difference?

HelenaWaiting · 01/09/2025 20:54

Namechange822 · 01/09/2025 20:05

I think that you could probably use a marker to add the line “Breaking news: Turkish born, Palestinian raised immigrant becomes English Saint” across the top of it.

There is no evidence whatsoever of any connection to Palestine. He was probably Cappadocian Greek, born in modern Turkiye. "Lydda, Palaestina" where he is believed to have died is actually Lod in central Israel. There is no evidence that he was "raised" there.

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