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AIBU to consider the furthest away secondary school?

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3pears · 01/09/2025 14:44

My daughter is in Year 5. Her closest secondary (school 1) is a 5 minute walk from our house and the one all her friends will probably go to. Her older sister goes there and is happy there but the extra curricular activities are slim pickings. Older sister doesn’t mind this as they do the one club she likes which is netball. Youngest loves drama and rugby and neither of these are on offer.

School 2 is a half hour drive away. There is a bus and I think it’s going to cost about £200 a term but could be more. School 2 is bigger and has more club options including girls rugby and does a big school production each year which dd2 would love. None of her friends will be going there. DH thinks I’m a bit mad to consider it when there is a perfectly good school round the corner.

outside of school, DD2 does netball and mixed rugby but won’t be able to carry on with mixed rugby in high school as she won’t be allowed and there is no local girls rugby club. She doesn’t do drama due to cost (and doing her sport) but would love to do musical theatre. She is very outgoing and makes friends easily.

academically, both schools are similar with similar subjects on offer for GCSE.

AIBU to even suggest School 2 as an option? I haven’t mentioned it to her yet. I think she’ll jump at the opportunity for it. dh think she should go to the same school as her sister as it’s closer, easier and DD1 is happy there. And we don’t have to worry about bus fees. What would you do?!

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3pears · 02/09/2025 18:52

Thanks so much all, lots to think about and I’m now leaning more towards school one after reading all your posts. Quite a few points I hadn’t considered so am very glad I posted

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MrsAvocet · 02/09/2025 13:36

FuzzyWolf · 01/09/2025 15:52

Ask your DD which she would be happiest doing.

For many people, a 30 min bus ride is to their nearest secondary school so the distance is reasonable.

Yes, this is true and pretty much the situation where I live, but I think that a long journey to school when it's your only option and everyone else is doing it too is rather different to a long journey to school when there's a school down the road which the vast majority of local kids attend.
My DC travelled 20 miles/30 mins by bus to school and there were others at their school with much longer journeys. In our area that's common and because so many live a long way away you don't get the situation where a friendship group spontaneously decides to go into town after school but only one can't go because they'll miss the bus, or where everyone is walking to someone's birthday party on a Friday night but just one has to ask their parents to bring them. Most of the pupils have friends spread over a large area which yes, can be a bit of a pain in the backside, but pretty much everyone is in the same boat, nobody is ever the odd one out because they don't live near school. Nor are they distanced from the kids from home because more or less everyone from the same villages will be going to the same school on the same bus. And if that bus is late, can't get through, breaks down or whatever they are at least with a big bunch of other pupils from the same area and families rally round to help. If you're late because the bus is late, so are 60 others and school know it's genuine (the bus company usually phones in fact). If you want to stay after school for an activity there's a good chance that others who live near you are staying for something too so you can lift share or get a bus together.
I think that is very different from being a lone traveller every day, who potentially can't join in out of school activities with their classmates because they live too far away but is also likely to become isolated from local friends because they're all together at school.
If there is a reasonable number of children who travel from your area to the school and it takes quite a lot of pupils from outside the immediate area it could be a good choice OP. But if your DD is likely to be one of very few in that situation I'd be wary. If she does go there I think you need to be prepared to invest quite a lot of time and energy to facilitate her friendships and out of school interests. That's something that as a rural parent I have lots of experience of, but at least I had other families in the same position to share the load with and it was both expected and unavoidable.I'm not sure it's a position I would have put my children or myself in if there was a decent school on the doorstep. Or at least the benefits of the distant school would have to have been significant.

Tomomomatoes · 02/09/2025 12:05

Don't just think about the journey time, consider what time she would have to leave the house (eg to walk to the bus stop) and what time she would get back so the length of the whole day.
I was packed off to an "excellent" school 30 mins drive away but with a long bus route plus all the extra travel 10 hour ish day. It was too much at 11 and I really struggled. Plus as others have said friends were miles away (what if best friend is 30 mins the other side of school?!)
A really local school that's good is a great choice and I would try and make up for the gaps through clubs etc. Or perhaps she can try different sports and creative outlets too?

user2848502016 · 01/09/2025 18:37

Up to your DD really, if she can get a bus independently and you can afford it I would at least suggest the option to her

HonoriaBulstrode · 01/09/2025 18:36

once teens gain independence and want to go out in the evenings with their friends, go to parties etc, them being able to just walk to each others houses is a huge deal.

This x 1000. One of the joys of secondary school is being able to make arrangements spontaneously with friends and not have to check first to see if a parent is available to drop and pick up.

Plus it's good for them to learn to get about indepedently, using public transport, or finding their way on foot.

That said, I wouldn't choose a school solely because it's where existing friends are going.

ShodAndShadySenators · 01/09/2025 17:00

I would choose a school on the basis of offering the best education for your dc, rather than the clubs that are on offer. Being close enough to get there herself and meet up with her friends is a huge bonus. She's still got opportunities for outside activities at the weekends plus she may discover additional interests that her new pals like doing already.

I would only consider a distant school if it was the only one that was suitable for my dc. If school A will work for your DD, I would be putting it down as my first preference and the further school as my second.

BirdBathSpaNowOpen · 01/09/2025 16:50

I think you need realistic timings. On a school morning, walk to the bus stop at your DD's pace, get on the bus, get to school, walk the other end, how long is it really? If the bus is full when is the next one? Same coming home if it isn't a specific school bus what are the timings? How bad would it be if it was absolutely pouring with rain on the way there?

My son's school had buses cancelled and a new timetable which really messed up start times for children. Luckily mine walked the 20 minutes so it didn't affect them but it did affect their friends. Mine had a waterproof cover that went on their rucksack and an umbrella but both Dh and I were available to run them to school and collect them in bad weather. Can you? Buses also get cancelled in snowy weather too.

For extracurriculars as above if a teacher leaves, becomes pregnant, breaks a leg, gets promoted and has more responsibility or whatever, that club can stop. I would definitely be looking at local clubs for both rugby and musical theatre and see if you can work the timings doing both.

Rozendantz · 01/09/2025 16:35

We debated long and hard about the local (10 minute walk) school or one of several in the next town. After a couple of meetings with the local school we opted for that, and it was 100% the right decision.

The early couple of years didn't make much difference (although obviously a short walk was advantageous), but once teens gain independence and want to go out in the evenings with their friends, go to parties etc, them being able to just walk to each others houses is a huge deal. I'd underestimated the importance of local friends!

Like several pp have said, your daughter can join clubs etc.

Tessasanderson · 01/09/2025 16:31

Thats a 1 hour round trip every day. Probably more once all the traffic, drop offs, problems are encountered. I know because my children did exactly the same trip.

It was my DS choice at the time and my DD followed suit. Encouraged by my partner. It benefitted them not a jot and in my eyes it just waisted 1 hour of their day, every single day of their school lives. Thats without discussing the money it cost.

I would rather put the money into a bank account ready for their final year and pay for some extra tutoring.

Blueberry911 · 01/09/2025 16:26

Lucy5678 · 01/09/2025 15:26

I wouldn’t be choosing a school based on extracurricular clubs. All it takes is for the member of staff running rugby to leave and be replaced by a ping pong enthusiast (or not be replaced at all) and the club stops running. It’s also very possible that after one term she decides she doesn’t like rugby anymore.

I’d spend the bus money on extracurricular activities out of school and save a lot of stress by sending her to the local school unless there are bigger reasons to go further.

Absolutely this. EC clubs are not a guarantee and children are likely to have different interests and hobbies as they grow.
The benefit of a close school is HUGE.

WasherWoman25 · 01/09/2025 16:15

Also, our school says it has girls rugby and football teams but they cancel the after school club A LOT! And then the handful of games they organise each year is usually just selected from the PE groups. Very glad I didn’t choose the school for this alone.

BusWankers · 01/09/2025 16:12

Lookjaz · 01/09/2025 15:42

Have you checked how far the distance in a straight line from the main school entrance is to your house and how far the distance the furthest pupils lived who where admitted in the last few years. This should be your main concern as if you put school 2 as first choice and it is over subscribed you may not get school 1.

That's not how it works.

She'll be assessed by basically this order for each school.

Ehcp, looked after, siblings, I catchment,our of catchment...no room, computer moves to school 2 on list... Applies the rules etc

Lucy5678 · 01/09/2025 16:07

Lookjaz · 01/09/2025 15:42

Have you checked how far the distance in a straight line from the main school entrance is to your house and how far the distance the furthest pupils lived who where admitted in the last few years. This should be your main concern as if you put school 2 as first choice and it is over subscribed you may not get school 1.

Not true, schools haven’t been allowed to prioritise people who put them as first preference for many many years. Applicants should place schools in their true order of preference - if school 2 does turn out to be OPs first choice but she doesn’t get in she still has exactly the same chance of getting into second preference school 1 as she would otherwise.

The only exception would be if OP didn’t put school 1 as a preference at all, which would be very unwise as then she could end up being offered something undesirable miles away. This is why LAs will always advise putting your catchment (or equivalent under other criteria) “banker” school as one of your preferences. Doesn’t need to be first preference though.

FuzzyWolf · 01/09/2025 15:52

Ask your DD which she would be happiest doing.

For many people, a 30 min bus ride is to their nearest secondary school so the distance is reasonable.

Newgirls · 01/09/2025 15:45

no way! I’d focus on saving that 5 hours plus a week commute on finding creative outlets near home

Surely they do drama in school lessons and I guess do drama gcse? That might be enough. There are loads of drama classes after school or weekends or she can do a summer intensive? Too risky to choose a school just for a drama club as they might not get in the productions.

Chompingatthebeat · 01/09/2025 15:45

Hands down closest school

Lookjaz · 01/09/2025 15:42

Have you checked how far the distance in a straight line from the main school entrance is to your house and how far the distance the furthest pupils lived who where admitted in the last few years. This should be your main concern as if you put school 2 as first choice and it is over subscribed you may not get school 1.

2chocolateoranges · 01/09/2025 15:32

twistyizzy · 01/09/2025 14:45

30 mins is nothing. Only on MN do posters think 20 mins+ is a long journey.
Friendships change so even if she starts off going with friends, chances are they won't be friends by end of first term.

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30 minutes is fine to go to school but if she is meeting up with friends and they all stay in that area, it’s you that will need to drive that 30 minutes each and every time to drop off and pick up when she wants to hang about with her friends, it gets tedious.

one of my dds friends lives 25 minutes away(they met in school but hey moved out of catchment) and it’s a PITA whenever they want to meet up and it’s usually me that does all the running about as the other parents aren’t interested in doing it. (And buses in that direction are unreliable)

Ddakji · 01/09/2025 15:27

You’re the adult so you make the decision.

It sounds like you shouldn’t to school 1 and investigate the rugby outside of school. How often would she go to training? 45 mins twice a week is a lot different to 30 mins every day.

Lucy5678 · 01/09/2025 15:26

I wouldn’t be choosing a school based on extracurricular clubs. All it takes is for the member of staff running rugby to leave and be replaced by a ping pong enthusiast (or not be replaced at all) and the club stops running. It’s also very possible that after one term she decides she doesn’t like rugby anymore.

I’d spend the bus money on extracurricular activities out of school and save a lot of stress by sending her to the local school unless there are bigger reasons to go further.

OriginalUsername2 · 01/09/2025 15:25

Testing the bus ride yourself at the right time on a school morning is the only way to get a true feel for it. Buses are really, really slow in rush hour and they stop at every single stop to let people on and off.

Keep in mind that in December it gets dark really early.

If she wants to see her school friends socially will she need to take the bus? This can sometimes mean she’ll miss out if things end late.

Bimblebombles · 01/09/2025 15:23

My school did "a big production every year" but turns out you only got cast if you were pally with the teacher / in the clique. I loved drama and auditioned a few times but I never got a place.

Wouldn't it be easier to enrol her into a drama club / sports club whatever at the weekends? Would probably be cheaper than the bus fare.

3pears · 01/09/2025 15:23

To answer a few questions-

both are state schools. School 2 is 20 mins in the car, 30 on the bus.

at the moment, we can’t fit stagecoach/ theatre train in because they’re on the weekend when she has matches. They’re also not close by. However, people are right that we could use the money saved from the bus to pay for them when she isnt playing mixed rugby matches any more.

I will ask dd but at the moment I’m working out whether or not it’s a sensible option. She is assuming she will go to school 1. Most of her friends going to school 1 are not immediately local but not far away, about a 5-10 min drive away. It’s true that it’s nice for them to have local friends and this is what dd1 has and enjoys so needs to be considered.

I’ve emailed the school regarding catchment and spaces. I know of a few round us that go to school 2 but obviously it doesn’t mean dd would be able to.

the nearest girls rugby team that I know of is about 45 mins away and it is an option. I’m not sure on its numbers, I think it’s slowly growing.

dd could get the bus there and back independently. She could probably get a bus back after clubs but I’m not sure on the timings of the extra curricular clubs. I would be able to pick her up if needed but agree it could get annoying!

im really grateful for all the responses because it’s giving me lots to consider and I’m very torn. I don’t want to suggest it to dd and then it turns out it wasn’t a good idea

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Bluevelvetsofa · 01/09/2025 15:11

I wouldn’t rise any expectations until you know whether the distance from the school would make you eligible or ineligible. You need to look at the admission criteria and find out which category you’d be.

Aside from that, the fares are going to be expensive in time and money and I agree that it would be better to use the money on subscriptions for the extra curricular stuff she enjoys.

CautiousLurker01 · 01/09/2025 15:09

For £200 a term could you not sign up your daughter to the local rugby club team and stage coach instead? Then she can go to the same school as her friends and sister?

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