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Children’s spaces

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VivaForever81 · 01/09/2025 14:20

Inspired by another thread, I’ll start by saying I do not think men have the right to use women only spaces.
I also believe that the current setup of men’s/womens/disabled toilets and changing rooms is safe for children.
In an ideal world I would prefer for anywhere that provides the use of public toilets to have to a unisex family facility with cubicles.
I don’t think that our current way of providing men’s/womens or disabled is safe for children.
I don’t think little girls out with their dad should have to go into the men’s, I don’t think it’s safe that boys once they get to 8 should go into the men’s alone and I don’t think it’s fair on those that are disabled have there facilities blocked up with parents and children.
what do others think, would you like to see a change?

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Sirzy · 01/09/2025 14:31

I think the much more important issue is improving disabled toilet facilities so they actually meet the needs of those with disabilities (and also find a way of stopping them being used by people who aren’t disabled!)

VivaForever81 · 01/09/2025 14:30

I’m asking do you think it’s safe for an 8 year old boy to go into the men’s alone?
Do you think it’s safe or right for a little girl with her dad to walk past the urinals in the men’s?
Im not suggesting the boy or the little girls dad come into the women’s, im asking if you think the current setup of no dads or boys in the ladies is safe for children or do you think there needs to be a change to women’s spaces/male spaces/disabled spaces AND a new space for the children described in my op.

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hydriotaphia · 01/09/2025 14:29

I think the OP is saying there should be dedicated unisex spaces for children and caregivers? I have no issue with such spaces but I am not convinced that the current set up of male and female facilities is actually dangerous.

Ablondiebutagoody · 01/09/2025 14:28

So do you or don't you think that the current set up is safe for children? Your post says that it is and isn't.

I think it's fine.

hydriotaphia · 01/09/2025 14:27

Have you got any evidence that kids using the toilet/changing rooms with their dads is unsafe? Or that an older male child is unsafe in the men's changing room? I have never heard of any issues here honestly.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 01/09/2025 14:25

VivaForever81 · 01/09/2025 14:24

Holy moly, read the post that’s not what I’m asking!

What are you asking? You say boys out with their mothers shouldn’t have to use the male toilets, nor the disabled. Where do you think they should go? There is not enough space to start building fourth options of unisex toilets everywhere. If there’s gender neutral ones in addition, they can use those but there’s no way this can be a legal requirement for shops, malls, parks, facilities.

8 year olds are fine using facilities of their own sex.

VivaForever81 · 01/09/2025 14:24

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 01/09/2025 14:23

No male over 8 should be in women’s spaces.

Holy moly, read the post that’s not what I’m asking!

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OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 01/09/2025 14:23

No male over 8 should be in women’s spaces.