SIL still isolating due to covid risk

How do you know your child keeps the mask on all day? I assume you allow them to take it off to eat and drink?

As I said, we test. Yes 100% attendance - no sickness, unlike classmates.

Yes, but that doesn't mean "its vascular!!!!" it means vascular complications have been observed in severe cases. Its not the same thing.

seeing as a percentage of people have it asymptomatically ,how would you know that neither of you have ever had it? So you are sending your child to school continuously in a N95 mask are you? Or are you a home schooler?

Covid does affect the vascular system unfortunately. There have been many studies which show this. "SARS-CoV-2, the causative agent of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, has revealed a broader impact beyond the respiratory system, predominantly affecting the vascular system with various adverse manifestations. The infection induces endothelial dysfunction and immune system dysregulation, creating an inflammatory and hypercoagulable state. It affects both microvasculature and macrovasculature, leading to thromboembolic events, cardiovascular manifestations, impaired arterial stiffness, cerebrovascular complications, and nephropathy, as well as retinopathy—frequently observed in cases of severe illness. Evidence suggests that SARS-CoV-2 infection may result in persistent effects on the vascular system, identified as long-term COVID-19. This is characterized by prolonged inflammation, endotheliopathy, and an increased risk of vascular complications."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11122535/

You're reading articles like this and just screaming in your head "Its vascular!!!" without picking out key points. Interesting that this is from the BHF given that I have a congenital heart condition myself. I have a personal interest.

Some key info I noticed, key words in bold

"case studies began to suggest that some of the most severe complications of the disease affected more than just the lungs."

There have been some anecdotal reports that clot-related complications may be less common in people with Covid-19 caused by more recent variants (such as Omicron), but there is a need for more research in this area before we can be sure.

The article is also dated from 2023, since when the outcomes have improved even more. Still nothing to tell me to run for the hills,

Better let these dingdongs known then.

Is Covid-19 a disease of the blood vessels? - BHF

The thread titled "family still isolating after covid" listed under the similar threads section of this is a depressing example of what these mentally ill parents are doing to their children. Id imagine some on here would be defending their actions "because its VASCULAR!!!!!"

COVID is not a vascular disease. It is a virus of the upper respiratory system. Vascular complications being observed in a study of older women who have suffered particularly nasty bouts does not justify screaming "Its Vascular!!!! Run for the hills! We're all doomed!!!" at every conceivable opportunity.

That poster is insistent it isn't vascular. And thinks anyone who mentions it is a singular fear-mongering oddball, when it is merely a statement of scientific fact, well known for the last five years. HTH.

This really is where brain cells come to die.

Other viruses also have vascular effects, such as chickenpox, but people aren't isolating from society because of them

Fucking hell.

What are you on about? This is hardly new news. It is vascular, and has been known to be a vascular as well as respiratory disease for years now. It also has been found to affect the vascular systems of women in particular.

Covid infection ages blood vessels, especially in women

Well if that's the case then, we'll just shut down 99% of the threads on this site then.

You can have an opinion, discuss, and tut-tut about whatever subject, but you cannot change another person. HTH

But seriously, articles like this are everywhere. In Jan 2025 the estimated hospitalisation rate was 2 in 100,000 infections.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20250113-why-covid-19-is-becoming-less-deadly

Well I examined the contents of every AIBU? thread in the last month. I divided the number of threads that deal with "other peoples" business where the OP has no right to question anyone else than themselves, then divided that figure by the total number of threads. Then I multiplied that by 100 to express the figure in percentage terms. It was actually 99.12354%, however, I rounded it down to ensure I didn't overstate my case.

We mask and test. Never caught it.

@Everanewbiewhere are you getting your stats from?

Its vascular!!! Is it you that pops up on every COVID thread screaming "Its vascular!!" as if we should all tremble with fear every time we hear someone cough? COVID-19 was a novel coronavirus which caused nasty respiratory illness is some people, and in others, symptoms more akin to a cold. Heck, some people didn't even know they had it. Now we've all been triple and quadropoly jabbed, plus had it about 4-5 times, it is overwhelmingly similar to a cold. Stop with the hysteria.

You can give it 1001 thoughts, it is still none of your business and beyond your personal powers to control.

Well if that's the case then, we'll just shut down 99% of the threads on this site then.

It might be worth having a chat to her where you just listen to her and empathise. Don’t try to argue with her or persuade her, just say you care about her and would like to try and understand more about what is shaping her decisions and lifestyle. Sometimes that can open to door for people to admit that actually, on some level they realise what they are doing isn’t proportionate or sustainable, but they are stuck with their fears and can’t move past them. That can then open the door for other people to provide support, and for change to start to happen. I have struggled a lot with similar feelings; I’ve always had health anxiety and covid hit my anxieties hard. I’ve not yet had it due to being very cautious, masking etc., and for quite a while I would have thought your SIL was right. I’ve slowly been able to dial down the precautions over the last year or so, and I can eat now in restaurants, go bowling, wander round the shops, see friends, etc, but if someone looks or sounds unwell, that’s it, I’m out of there or I’m putting a mask on. But I’ll get there if I keep working on it. The thing is, it’s easy to overestimate one health harm versus others, as you and others have said, and some of the information out there on covid cautious groups makes Covid sound like it will either kill you or turn you into a zombie. It’s not a nice virus, but as you say, living a life in fear isn’t great for you either, which is why I’m pushing myself to get as much normality back as I can. It could help to find something which really matters to her that would provide an incentive to open her life up a bit. For me it was my kids, I didn’t want them to live with me being so different to everyone else and possibly develop anxieties of their own due to my behaviour, and that incentive keeps me moving forward even when it’s uncomfortable. If you can talk openly with your SIL you may find similar incentives for her. You sound like a caring and understanding person, you may be the key to unlocking the cage she has trapped herself in.

You can give it 1001 thoughts, it is still none of your business and beyond your personal powers to control.

It is vascular. How you could have missed learning this in all these years is odd.

Would you watch someone you love dearly be dragged down like this, and controlled, completely irrationally without giving it a second thought, because it isn’t your business?

No, it is not her business. It is theirs.

Only she can make that choice

@mumatlast14 again, how do you stop your child or your spouse contacting Covid and passing it onto you? Covid will always spread because we are human beings who generally need to have contact with other human beings. I know nothing will change your mind but i dearly hope you are not impacting on your child’s mental health.