Is The IMF taking Over perhaps just what the country needs

No i would because on benefits, i'm more to the right than you think, other people are paying for them, they have to offer vfm and encourage, where possible, to get people back in work.

But you ve hit the nail on the head with Welfare reform, it will always be unfair for some.

You re right though, is a derail, so we'll leave it there.

I'm not going to derail op's thread with a drawn out bun fight over welfare. Two points I will make are than a) I don't agree with welfare being awarded according to the date rather than the condition b) I don't agree with the suggested changes to points on PIP as it would have left some people in genuine serious need without help.
As I said earlier, you would not take my opinions seriously anyway so there is no point.

What was wrong with it? cut 5bn ... job done, esp with less claims going fwd.

I opposed that particular bill as it wasn't fit for purpose. Hth.

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Terrible. Is nothing sacred? I have never recovered from Mother's Pride being banned in our house when I was a child and being forced to eat bread baked on the premises at our local bakery. Some of it was brown or granary too.

They've already replaced our BRITISH BREAD !!!!!!

https://www.thepoke.com/2025/09/01/reform-policy-adviser-complained-about-how-she-can-no-longer-get-normal-bread/

Don't forget that the IMF is only employing Muslims now as part of the Great Replacement.

Which isn't what I said.

Not really, it’s obvious making everyone poorer so they are more equal would not lead to growth.

So oppose benefit cuts and any tax rises but have a go at Lab over benefits bill, national debt, gilts, growth etc

and tax rises will harm grown too much.

Funny how growing inequality in society is never a threat to growth isn't it ?

It's not my job to decide what they should cut. If they do cut welfare, I expect prudence and due diligence. That was not evident with the approach to the welfare bill. Hopefully that will be rectified after the Timms review.
Reeves has made her bed when she went after businesses. Now she must lay in it.

Well where do you think the government should cut instead then? It certainly can’t increase borrowing, and tax rises will harm grown too much. We can’t keep asking the higher tax payers to pay off. So it’s tax cuts.

You have accused me of being far-right on more than one occasion, across multiple threads. One of these is still live if you want to check.
I have never called for Labour to address welfare spending, so unfortunately for you, I do not fit into that particular pigeon hole.
Perhaps other posters on your side of the debate would be willing to explain what the consequences would have been for genuinely disabled people had that bill passed. You certainly wouldn't take my opinion seriously so there is little point in it coming from me.

Err where have i said that? all i'm saying it was not just Lab MPs, the Con media were all over it, with headlines like this from the Express:

Rachel Reeves accused of 'attack on disabled' as claimants say cuts will risk lives

What area of the benefits system would you like addressing?

Opposing cuts, whilst also wanting the Govt to address the benefits bill is not possible.

Like i said, whatever Labour cut, some group or other will oppose and the media will jump on it, along with a few MN posters too.

It’s the media or the tories isn’t it? Switch between the two.

I mean on auto play Labour never mentioned even though they’re actually in power with a large majority.

I've also noticed too many comments strongly supporting the idea of eliminating elderly people and incentivizing s_ for those over 50 to reduce pension costs.

Well nothing is off the table.

Are you seriously trying to blame the media for that calamity? That bill should have been pulled before it got to the commons, and you know it. Labour MPs took it down, not the media, not the tories. They were right to do so, it was a mess.

So you support the cuts that Labour were trying to implement, I oppose them, and you have the cheek to accuse me of being far-right?

I opposed the cuts because they were badly thought out and rushed through without due diligence to try and save the chancellor's backside. The necessity of the Timms review proves my point. People with disabilities deserve better than that.

I agree.

It seems like there have been too many comments over the past months that are against disabled people.

I've also noticed too many comments strongly supporting the idea of eliminating elderly people and incentivizing s_ for those over 50 to reduce pension costs.

The country needs better financial management across the board, as there seems to be a shortage of people capable of making solid financial decisions. Is this due to poor intentions, incompetence, or something else entirely?

It also appears the country isn't producing individuals skilled at solving problems. Could this be intentional sabotage?

There are far too many pressing issues at hand, and no one seems adequately equipped to handle them effectively.

What would you do about the sky high and rising at a wholly unrealistic rate benefits bill?

Do you think every claimant is likely to be honest and truthful?

Do you think it’s right to provide PIP claimants with cash payments to spend on whatever they like rather than the goods and services it has been judged that they need to cope with their disability?

Who has a ‘perceived disability’ what / who are you referring to?

I ve never contacted you, its a discussion forum, if you don't like it, scroll on or hide the thread and move on?

The media went mad over this, as did a few notable posters on here...

So what benefits do you think should be cut? if not the ones the Govt tried to reduce.

Because thats the rub... we will all have our own sympathies but cuts means people lose out.... and they wont like it.

Or is it that those on the right will use whatever they can to attack Labour, even when they try and do the right thing?

Gosh, the sensitivity on this thread from posters who deride anyone with a so called perceived disability is strident.