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£100 for a casual lunch out for 4 is too much

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GrealishGoddess · 31/08/2025 19:55

Deeply middle class problem but. Anyone else noticed that you can no longer get out of the likes of Bill’s, Wagamama, Pizza Express, etc , with two teens, for less than £100. Is this just inflation, NI effects, price gouging, what? AIBU to stay home?

OP posts:
iamnotalemon · 01/09/2025 16:32

Fishplates · 31/08/2025 20:55

I absolutely detest comments like this!

what a crappy race to the bottom…..

how on earth is eating out in a chain restaurant as a middle class family a luxury?!

the OP isn’t expecting a Michelin once a week.

Jesus Christ.

Eating out is a luxury! Or it certainly was when I grew up. I do think people have different expectations now and then feel hard done by when they can’t afford things. (I’m mid 40s, we went out for a meal a few times a year for birthdays - if that)

greengreyblue · 01/09/2025 16:31

Yeah I never understand dough balls when you have pizza crust.

MummySleepDeprived · 01/09/2025 16:28

YABU dough balls with pizza. Carb with carb side! Plus the mark up on the balls is staggering

greengreyblue · 01/09/2025 16:19

BrownieBlondie01 · 01/09/2025 16:13

LOL at people being disgusted at people ordering and eating their own pizza in Pizza Express!

I have never known someone not order their own meal there? If they want less, someone might order a leggera or pasta/salad? The only way I'd be sharing is with my 2 year old.

It's not at all unusual for people to order and eat their own pizza in Pizza Express/Prezzo etc, I'd definitely say it's the norm.

I definitely order a pizza to myself . I said 1000 cals was loads cos it is for one meal, for an average woman. Someone upthread said it was standard cals. I just wouldn’t do it very often .

BrownieBlondie01 · 01/09/2025 16:13

LOL at people being disgusted at people ordering and eating their own pizza in Pizza Express!

I have never known someone not order their own meal there? If they want less, someone might order a leggera or pasta/salad? The only way I'd be sharing is with my 2 year old.

It's not at all unusual for people to order and eat their own pizza in Pizza Express/Prezzo etc, I'd definitely say it's the norm.

ItsnotnearlyChristmas · 01/09/2025 16:03

Why are posters being so obtuse ?

Of course no one is literally starving after half a Pizza Express pizza but you might still be hungry. Half a thin crust Margarita pizza is just not worth going out for in my book

Also 1000 calories is a lot for a meal but actually a pizza being primarily cheese and carbs isn't as big or filling per calorie as loads of vegetables and a bit of chicken.

BrownieBlondie01 · 01/09/2025 16:00

I agree OP, a lunch for 2 even in Pret now can be about £30 - may as well go somewhere proper for a 'dinner' and spend the extra £20.

Everything has gone up so much.

Bluelilacbella · 01/09/2025 15:58

Florally · 31/08/2025 21:55

I’m shocked at all the people saying that they need a pizza a person at Pizza Express… my DH is a grown man and I have a teen and a tween and we would share two pizzas. Three huge slices of pizza is enough for anyone for dinner.

I love the kids meals at Prezzo, we can order a pizza flatbread for 4.99 and it comes with a ‘starter’ of garlic dough balls or similar and is enough for an adult. Takeaway meal for 4 for 20.

Three ‘huge’ slices Grin?!

There is no way that half a thin pizza will be enough to fill up an adult, let alone a growing teen!!

Chompingatthebeat · 01/09/2025 15:58

OonaStubbs · 31/08/2025 20:09

Eating out should be a luxury, people didn't used to expect to eat at restaurants all the time, it used to be a once or twice a year treat.

Who made you the luxury police?

MyElatedUmberFinch · 01/09/2025 15:24

WFHforevermore · 01/09/2025 15:09

Wow, judgemental much. I can say my DH and adult sons dont have problems, worms or are greedy/glutinous, but a single PE pizza would not fill them up.

You must have a tiny DH and teeny tiny children.

They are teeny tiny family.

Digdongdoo · 01/09/2025 15:11

Cherrytree86 · 01/09/2025 13:23

It is loads, yes.

So what if it is loads. If I wanted to eat a moderate amount of healthy food, I wouldn't be at pizza express. It's fine to eat loads sometimes.

WFHforevermore · 01/09/2025 15:09

Cherrytree86 · 01/09/2025 10:46

@Mondaytuesdayhappydays

no, the average boy/man wouldn’t be “starving” after a Pizza Express pizza. If they are they have a problem - maybe worms, or maybe just greed/gluttony.

Edited

Wow, judgemental much. I can say my DH and adult sons dont have problems, worms or are greedy/glutinous, but a single PE pizza would not fill them up.

You must have a tiny DH and teeny tiny children.

BananaPeels · 01/09/2025 15:02

Cherrytree86 · 01/09/2025 13:23

It is loads, yes.

How is it loads?
The recommended calorie intake a day for an adult is 2000 so a rough split would be 400 breakfast, 600 lunch, 1000 dinner. I need less than that, my son needs up to 3000 a day. Obviously everyone is a bit different and can vary it but as a principle 800-1000 for a main meal in a restaurant is pretty normal.

Have a look at the calorie lists on menus and you won’t find many mains less that 800. A full Sunday roast is 2000 calories at my local pub.

WFHforevermore · 01/09/2025 14:54

Florally · 31/08/2025 21:55

I’m shocked at all the people saying that they need a pizza a person at Pizza Express… my DH is a grown man and I have a teen and a tween and we would share two pizzas. Three huge slices of pizza is enough for anyone for dinner.

I love the kids meals at Prezzo, we can order a pizza flatbread for 4.99 and it comes with a ‘starter’ of garlic dough balls or similar and is enough for an adult. Takeaway meal for 4 for 20.

Come off it. You cant get 6 "huge" slices from a PE pizza 😂

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 01/09/2025 14:49

mum2jakie · 01/09/2025 12:28

I suspect you haven't eaten in Pizza Express lately. The pizza sizes have reduced. They are (very) thin based and light on the toppings. They certainly aren't somewhere you are likely to need a doggy bag!

I went a couple of months ago, personally I prefer a thin base, but it was still quite a lot of food. I'm certainly not judging anyone who prefers to eat a full pizza to themselves just saying to OP they could easily cut the price and still have a really enjoyable meal by splitting a couple of pizzas. I doubt anyone would go away hungry after half a pizza, a side, and a drink :)

Radiatorvalves · 01/09/2025 14:47

MessageMystery · 31/08/2025 20:06

4 people don’t need 4 pizzas. I’d get two and a side dish for four.

You obviously don’t have teenage boys. We get through 4 pizzas with them eating half of mine. Plus dough balls or garlic bread.

BernadetteJune · 01/09/2025 14:29

Agree - eating out is far too expensive now. We tend to go for a curry if it is someone's birthday but we find Bill's. Zizzi's, Pizza Express etc far too expensive - haven't been for years! We tend to treat ourselves at home or if we really want to 'eat out' we will treat ourselves to coffee and a sandwich at places like Good Taste or Cafe Nero.

MyElatedUmberFinch · 01/09/2025 14:27

Crikeyalmighty · 01/09/2025 13:35

Try sharing 2 pizzas, a couple of salads and some dough balls ( if necessary) personally I find that plenty

Salads are often the same price as a pizza.

C8H10N4O2 · 01/09/2025 14:26

Animatic · 01/09/2025 13:09

Why "should be"? Who is deciding what should and should not be a luxury? Does pizza express qualify for that?

Edited

If the staff of a service business are so low paid they need the tax payer to top up to a basic living standard then yes, they should be paid more and that will mean less meals out for most people.

Effectively the taxpayer subsidises cheap eating out and a range of cheaper personal services and has done ever since they became a mass market activity rather than occasional luxuries.

Crikeyalmighty · 01/09/2025 13:35

Try sharing 2 pizzas, a couple of salads and some dough balls ( if necessary) personally I find that plenty

Bluelilacbella · 01/09/2025 13:35

greengreyblue · 01/09/2025 13:12

We now eat out far less as unless you’re going somewhere very nice it’s just not worth it. We are reasonable cooks and often choose to cook at home with a nice bottle of wine at the weekend now . Most places are mediocre. Fed up with a roast dinner out as I don’t want a giant Yorkshire pud hiding the tiny pile underneath.

Edited

Us too. We only go out if the food is exceptional (better than we can make at home) otherwise we cook ourselves! For half the price you can get a MUCH better meal!

Bluelilacbella · 01/09/2025 13:32

SylvanianFamiliesBalcony · 01/09/2025 12:20

tbf the portion sizes in most places are massive, most people would really struggle to eat a full pizza to themselves, so you can take leftovers home for another mean. Can easily cut down to a pizza between two with a side each and halve the price.

No - portion sizes have been reduced in an attempt to make more money (shrinkflation).
Also, if I plan to go out for to a restaurant for a meal/pizza, I’ll make sure I’m hungry!

No way would a standard pizza not get eaten!!

Horserider5678 · 01/09/2025 13:26

GrealishGoddess · 31/08/2025 20:02

4 standard pizzas, shared one dough balls, two glasses house wine, tap water, obligatory service. Not going crazy.with ordering but not sharing etc to scrimp - that’s 100 easy

Went to Bills recently and for 8 of us the bill was less than £100! Went to an independent pizza restaurant not a chain and for 4 of us again the bill was less than £100. Just choose independents far nicer and generally better value!

Jllllllll · 01/09/2025 13:25

HauntedHero · 31/08/2025 20:09

I didn't realise anyone ate in Pizza Express without a voucher or using some sort of deal.

This. ⬆️ Tesco club card vouchers

hyggetyggedotorg · 01/09/2025 13:24

It’s definitely become more expensive just like all food really. Takeaways have shot up in price too, I assume due to the rises in minimum wage, food & business tax.

We ate in a Pizza Hut recently & even with us all having a meal deal & no alcohol it was still around £100 for 4.

I assume that’s why every Wetherspoons I pass is always so busy. It’s the most affordable place even though the food isn’t up to much (in my opinion), and you have to take your own wet wipes for the table.

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