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I’ve joined the “why are there dogs everywhere” Club

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BananaBum · 31/08/2025 18:51

I’ll start things off by saying I have a dog myself and normally scoff at all the people rolling their eyes over dogs in pubs and cafes. Can even forgive younger, less well behaved dogs because they have to learn and be exposed to different situations.

HOWEVER

Today I went to get in a lift in John Lewis with my DC and a woman with a pushchair and TWO massive labradors asked if I wouldn’t mind waiting because one of her dogs were nervous about being crowded.

Why are you in John Lewis then?
Is it really necessary for the dogs to come out with you?
Did they come in the car especially or do you live in town?
how does it all work logistically?

So many questions. And also just a bit annoyed I had to wait for the next lift

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Stoptakingmysellotape · 31/08/2025 22:32

Edinburgh festival the other week, 24 degrees no shade in George Square gardens yet the whole world had brought their dog with them. If you've ever been to the gardens in the festival you'll know how busy it is. Those dogs did not look happy, it was so hot crowded and noisy, plus it made it harder to move around the area as you were trying not to step on the dogs.

Aubrielle · 31/08/2025 22:31

@Sladuf1
You're spot on. I've had dogs for 48 years, never taken any of them to shops or cafes. It's a very modern trend that has worsened since Covid. The lockdown puppies with first time dog owners are having a very different upbringing than previous generations of dogs did. Only time will tell if all these changes are long term or not. If the number of posts on MN from people who regret getting a dog because it's too tying/not housetrained/reactive is anything to go by, then I think @jonthebatiste is probably correct and for many there won't be a second dog after lockdown pup dies.

WhatABigYikes · 31/08/2025 22:28

ComtesseDeSpair · 31/08/2025 19:12

It’s the “fur baby” trend, which ignores animals’ needs in favour of owners’ wants. I come from a family of pragmatic working dog owners and breeders, and can’t identify with the “I love my dog and my dog must come everywhere with me because they’re family” attitude, because it just isn’t kind or loving. I saw a FB reel a while back about how dogs are now allowed in Selfridges and how wonderful that is, and just found that bonkers.

I find going to Selfridges stressful: the smells of the perfume concessions are overwhelming, it’s overfull of people milling about, there are strange staff constantly approaching out of nowhere to offer help, it’s about three shades of electric light brighter than I ever want, and almost every time I end up there I feel a rising sense of panic. I can’t imagine how it must feel if you’re a dog with no idea what’s going on, your face is barely a foot off the ground, you’re constantly seeing kicking feet flying towards you from people who can’t see you, and your olfactory senses are completely broken by everything you can smell. Why on earth anyone thinks it’s a good idea, let alone “wonderful” for their dog to go shopping with them, is a complete mystery.

I'm not by any means a dog person but it's sad that dog owners don't consider the needs of their dogs. That sounds awful. Reminds me of how my anxiety gets triggered seeing very very young babies in certain environments.

JudithDunbar · 31/08/2025 22:27

Went to a National Trust recently and there were massive dog turds all around the exquisite tudor knot garden. Some kind of pack meet had descended on the place, I cannot be bothered to detail the specifics but quite honestly they were an absolute spectacle. Hideous watching such a glorious place desecrated by such inane types and their creatures. These pack meets seem to be everywhere now, abominations the lot of them.

Brunosmumhasnaffallgoingon · 31/08/2025 22:27

Not to brag 😆 but my dog is a angel and probably would walk
round John Lewis with me however she’d think I was a right twat for making her do it.
Poor dogs ! All the noise, smells, people etc. stresses me out.
The walks are for her to have a nice time not help me choose a new kettle. Humans are strange

Snarpy · 31/08/2025 22:24

And my view on dogs in John Lewis was solidified when I saw one taking a pee right on the lowest shelf of knitting wool. Wrote them an email about that one!

KOALABEAR12 · 31/08/2025 22:22

Dogs in the beautiful M&S Autograph shop in Battersea Power Station, what if one curled one out on the white porcelain tiles? 🤔

echt · 31/08/2025 22:22

When I first went to live in Australia, I was amazed to see how many dogs there are where I live and how they are catered for: a bowl of water outside many shops and all cafes. Common to see dogs with owners on outside seating at cafes. One even provides dog beds!

However, only one shop allows dogs in and that's Bunnings (Hammer Barn to all the Bluey fans) and then only if the dog can be carried in the trolley.

And that's it. As a dog owner I'm very glad indeed.

MonkeySocks9 · 31/08/2025 22:22

Same. Had a brochure through from Wren a couple of months back.
Says in it that dogs are allowed in the showrooms now.
Christ knows why you would need to take your dog with you to pick a new kitchen 🙈

Snarpy · 31/08/2025 22:20

I was very glad when I noticed that Tebay services (that middle class staple!) had many signs up the other day indicating the areas where dogs could and couldn't be. I actually saw staff members actually telling people they couldn't come into the food hall with dogs!

A likely controversial view of mine, but dogs seemed much, much happier to me in general when they weren't allowed anywhere and everywhere and it was expected that they'd stay at home and snooze for a few hours...

OonaStubbs · 31/08/2025 22:18

Why can't people tie their dogs up outside shops anymore? It used to be commonplace.

FleetFootedJanet · 31/08/2025 22:16

Completely agree OP. The situation in John Lewis is beyond a joke. A dog licked DD there other week - absolutely vile. I’m mystified why anyone would want to drag a dog round a department store or why the department store thinks permitting non-assistance dogs is a good idea.

I’m far from a dog hater too - we don’t have one but I grew up with and loved family dogs.

Aubrielle · 31/08/2025 22:16

Sorry @ticktickticktickBOOM but if I wait politely with my large dog for someone to pass with children or pram then yes, I do expect a thank you. We have just as much right to be there as they (or you) do. So I think you were rude not to say thanks.

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 22:15

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 22:06

I watched one of those dog training programmes and there was a woman with an out of control dog, she'd bought in the pandemic. When the trainer suggested limits to where she took the dog, she said "but he's family!" which made me laugh.

Sorry for the duplicate post, no idea what happened! Blame the dog 😉

StickyProblem · 31/08/2025 22:15

BananaCaramel · 31/08/2025 20:10

It’s really interesting actually - our local boots has recently put up a large new No Dogs sign in the door. I can only assume some bat shit people thought it was appropriate to bring dogs into a pharmacy

Someone was having a rant in my local Facebook group recently that the village pharmacy hadn’t let their dog in, to a chorus of “Well I shall certainly boycott that shop in future and collect my medicines from elsewhere”.

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 22:15

Blanketenvy · 31/08/2025 22:07

Nope that's not the plan. I'm following a behavioural plan with her to allow her to feel comfortable being alone. It's just a very very slow process. We're definitely nipping places rather than buying a whole new autumn wardrobe or whatever.

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Right, that sounds like a plan. Such an animal needs a lot of work.

Bluevelvetsofa · 31/08/2025 22:13

I certainly believe that a significant proportion of people who got dogs in lockdown had some regrets at the amount of time, money and effort it takes to care properly for a dog and now can’t be bothered.

I was annoyed last week when we found a new local walk and there were dogs off lead, ignoring the very clear signs that they should be on lead, because sheep graze in nearby fields.

BluntPlumHam · 31/08/2025 22:11

It’s the dog shit and urinating all over the streets that is just getting out of hand. Too many irresponsible dog owners.

EeewDavid12 · 31/08/2025 22:07

I sometimes wonder whether it’s an overflow from everyone getting a dog in covid and not realising it’s not like a large cat and you can’t leave them very long so they just take them with, however inappropriate. Luckily the good shops are in an mall near me and it’s strictly no dogs unless service dogs so you avoid the issue. Massive dogs on busy buses is another atory though. Especially when you are trying to get a pushchair on and they won’t move an inch 🤬🤬🤬

Blanketenvy · 31/08/2025 22:07

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 22:03

I don't think it's a problem to "nip to a shop", however, shopping as a leisure activity and taking it into whatever cafe or place you want to is a bit much.
You have a dog with separation anxiety - that seems very common nowadays. The solution can't be for it to lead a quasi human life?

Nope that's not the plan. I'm following a behavioural plan with her to allow her to feel comfortable being alone. It's just a very very slow process. We're definitely nipping places rather than buying a whole new autumn wardrobe or whatever.

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 22:06

I watched one of those dog training programmes and there was a woman with an out of control dog, she'd bought in the pandemic. When the trainer suggested limits to where she took the dog, she said "but he's family!" which made me laugh.

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 22:06

I watched one of those dog training programmes and there was a woman with an out of control dog, she'd bought in the pandemic. When the trainer suggested limits to where she took the dog, she said "but he's family!" which made me laugh.

eyeoresancerre · 31/08/2025 22:03

We were in John Lewis in Southampton not so long ago and a woman tried to pretend her dog wasn’t shitting in homewear. She kept dragging it along so it left a trail of shit. She didn’t stop or ask for help or pick it up. She then went up the escalators to womenswear. Two shop assistants just stood over the shit until the cleaning staff came. Gross behaviour from the woman.

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 22:03

Blanketenvy · 31/08/2025 21:59

Of course. But most dogs are happy to chill at home after a decent walk for a few hours and/or there is more than one person that can care for dog in house so more flexibility. I got a dog cos I wanted my life to be different. It's just very limiting it you have a dog with separation anxiety. Like I say I'm ok with it, I made the commitment to get the dog, but doesn't mean I wont take the opportunity to nip into a shop with her her if I can to pick something up.

I don't think it's a problem to "nip to a shop", however, shopping as a leisure activity and taking it into whatever cafe or place you want to is a bit much.
You have a dog with separation anxiety - that seems very common nowadays. The solution can't be for it to lead a quasi human life?

Sladuf1 · 31/08/2025 22:02

MonetsLilac · 31/08/2025 21:53

I agree. You used to see them tied up outside shops, now they're in Clark's while the owner tries on shoes. It's very strange.

It really is. The majority of shoe shops I’ve been in haven’t been anything resembling spacious, lots of room to manoeuvre around in either. Brantano branches in out of town retail parks were the only exception. Why take a dog wih you to go shoe shopping?!? Bonkers.

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