I’ve joined the “why are there dogs everywhere” Club

I was in JL yesterday too. The most bizarre thing ever to be trying on clothes in the fitting room and hearing a dog bark.

I can't believe that JL encourage the absolute madness of dog owners' inappropriate behaviour. Im a dog owner, my dog was at home while I was out shopping. No way would I bring my dog out clothes shopping. I dont know WTF is wrong with people these days.

I never took my dog to John Lewis , but I love to see dogs shopping. It must be stressful to do so as you have make sure they have toileted before going in. I couldn’t deal with the worry even though I could get my dog to pee on command , eventually !!! 😂

Bloody love dogs but not all dog owners.

Better still leave them at home

I agree with this. I was talking to a friend the other day about it and we reckon there’s another five years of Dogz Rule hell before things go bad to normal. Every time I’m out I see dogs that have not even been trained to walk beside their owners on a lead and the owner is spending their time avoiding stepping on the dog, hauling it back, dragging it along, whatever and I think how miserable it must be to be an untrained dog.

Yes I second this. Hopefully she will. My current one is a rescue and I am careful where I take her as she can get very anxious due to being hit and abused and taken at just 4 weeks old from her mother. She was used for hunting. She is the sweetest of creatures!

Fuck it,. I'm taking my emotional support horse everywhere with me

Would you let you dig hassle people who were scared /not interested though? I’m so fed up of dog owners thinking it’s ok for there animals to invade my kids space.

Taking a dog out shopping where the sole purpose is shopping is unfair on dogs. They're not going to enjoy it.

But the reason many shops allow it, and the reason many dog owners welcome it, is that many people don't visit shops as part of some massive day long shopping spree. Many pop in because they need to pick something up while they are out and about. There is a John Lewis on the way to a nice walk I often do with my dog. I don't think I've ever had to pop in to pick something up, but if I did, I'm far more likely to do it if I'm passing and have my dog with me, than if I have to go all the way home, drop him off, and come back out to the shop.

For shops that are competing with Amazon and other online sellers, and trying to keep bricks and mortar shops afloat, I would assume that is the biggest calculation in allowing dogs in.

Similar for pubs/cafes etc - if I'm walking my dog and fancy a coffee, I'm not going to bring my dog home and come back out for a coffee, but I will pop into a pub or cafe that welcomes dogs.

Would I ever ask someone to leave a lift because my dog is nervous of crowded spaces? No. If my dog was nervous, I would not bring him to places where he would encounter crowds. And even then, because he's little, I generally pick him up if I need to pop into a shop with him (unless I'm in a more spacious place where he can walk without tripping people up or risking being stepped on.

It's not a binary choice of 'dogs should never ever be in shops/pubs/restaurants' and 'dogs should be forced to spend hours on end traipsing around shopping centres'.

I love dogs, have always had them but not had a dog since my last one died 4 years ago. But i never took him to shops, markets, cafes, friends houses and restaurants etc, he went on his normal walks and was a happy soul.

My friend has a dog that is her fur baby, he is never left behind, they will google places to make sure they are dog friendly and if not they wont go, cant leave the "baby" behind. Now when they are at work he howls, (she has a camera) and its causing issues with the neighbors, maybe if they didnt take the bloody thing everywhere it wouldnt have separation anxiety.

She is trying to start a petition as several National Trust places dont allow dogs, well that is unacceptable and she wants her pooch to go into the buildings. She also doesnt give a shit that other people dont want her dog in a cafe etc due to allergys or being afraid, thats their problem and she wants her baby in with her.

Well obviously I'm only taking them into shops that allow dogs which to be fair really has only been the garden centre, pets at home and the range. Yes she's on a short lead and controlled.

This. It’s usually younger /female owners who are the worst. They treat there digs like spoilt children. There also child haters which explains why they find it funny /ok when there dog hassles children.

I tell them My kids come before dogs everytime thank you 👍

Oh, and I've just remembered the insane amount of dogs I saw at a fucking FIREWORK DISPLAY recently.

I agree - I love dogs but I have kids who are a bit scared and therefore notice that there are dogs literally everywhere now. The tube, cafes, shops, museums. It’s shit for the dogs to be on a lead in a strange, man-made environment where they can’t run around. It’s shit for people who just want to get on with their day. I’ve no idea why the owners do it. A couple of months ago I was in a cafe and the dog owner let this tiny dog just run unsupervised around the whole place while she was busy chatting. It nearly tripped up the waiters a few times and eventually did a piss in the corner which the owner had no idea about. I went and got her and told her to clean it up and she said “oh she never normally does that hahahaha” WELL YOU WEREN’T WATCHING so she probably does it every week, you dickhead! Sorry, just really annoys me! 🤣

Hope she settles. It's good of you to give her a fresh start

You should not bring it into shops

But i hope it’s on a short leash , not sniffing products, and not hassling humans esp children.

Don’t get me started on the abuse from entitled dog owners when you tell them of

They don’t even know the law. I lost count telling them to stop running up to my kids/stealing are picnic food. The comments they then come out with.

They literally think their dogs has more rights then children. Pathetic

I think that's why so many dogs have behaviour issues, they are brought to places that are not natural to them like shopping centres, it's stressful for them. (assistance dogs are trained from puppies, to cope in busy environments).
Also why so many suffer from separation anxiety, they are not taught to spend time on their own from young.

I have a dog and have brought her to dog friendly places only if she has already been with me. For example we have just done a long walk and stopped off for a drink on the way home. However I dont bring he with me to dog friendly places just because I can.

I feel sorry for all the dogs getting dragged to places and situations that can only be stressful for them. The other day I opened a coffee shop door to be confronted with an OFF-LEAD unmuzzled pitbull type staring out at the high street from the doorway. His owner, from the queue, begged me to shut the door quickly or the dog would run off. What the actual fuck! It's gone way too far.

Its like a mental illness, people not having kids and have a “fur baby” and treat dogs/cats like kids. Wierdos.

A dog taking communion? Whatever next?

Im fuming that dogs are now being prioritised over kids. dogs are animals and should be treated as such and not humans!

Don’t get started me on the dog owners pathetic comments when I tell them to move there mutt away from my children’s faces /are picnic/are ball game 🙄😡

Very true

She was rude

but the I wouldn’t of got in a lift with a dog in it. There smelly , dirty and dangerous. Should not be aloud in human spaces unless there guide dogs

Quite

This is totally sweet and understandable and I have often seen dogs over the years on buses/trains etc. They are never a bother. It's the explotion of dog ownership since Covid and the absolute Morons that haven't a clue about how to look after the poor Animal.