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BananaBum · 31/08/2025 18:51

I’ll start things off by saying I have a dog myself and normally scoff at all the people rolling their eyes over dogs in pubs and cafes. Can even forgive younger, less well behaved dogs because they have to learn and be exposed to different situations.

HOWEVER

Today I went to get in a lift in John Lewis with my DC and a woman with a pushchair and TWO massive labradors asked if I wouldn’t mind waiting because one of her dogs were nervous about being crowded.

Why are you in John Lewis then?
Is it really necessary for the dogs to come out with you?
Did they come in the car especially or do you live in town?
how does it all work logistically?

So many questions. And also just a bit annoyed I had to wait for the next lift

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jamnpancakes · 01/09/2025 10:15

Dogs in changing rooms! Ffs just no!

MermaidMummy06 · 01/09/2025 10:13

I think some people have lost sight of a dog's needs & role & treat them like people.

i do find it amusing that a colleague, who is staunchly anti-children, has dogs who are so pandered to they are like toddlers who'll never grow up. They can't go out without getting a babysitter, a cough is an emergency vet visit, the dogs get her up in the middle of the night to let them out to toilet & then get her up at 6am for breakfast. Every night. When one passed she claimed paid bereavement leave. Her DH is the boss so she gets away with it!!

Ariela · 01/09/2025 10:09

They used to have kennels at Legoland (I'm going back years ago) where you could leave your dog while you went in.

WhatNoRaisins · 01/09/2025 10:04

The dogs in school is concerning. There's all this stuff about improving school attendance but if I'd had to worry about dealing with a large dog at school that could well have been the thing that tipped me into school refusal.

Daygloboo · 01/09/2025 10:03

Iamnotalemming · 01/09/2025 09:58

I am fed up of dogs on trains. I was on a super crowded service recently and the only place I could find to sit was next to a woman with a dog that sat on my feet for the whole journey. I didn't mind so much but the dog smell, ugh, when you can't even open the window on the train anymore. There was a couple with a dog nearby on a four seat table, where I couldn't sit because they had bags over the spare seats. When a bolder traveller than me got on later and asked them to move the bags, they said they'd put them there to stop people their dog didn't know sit by them because it was aggressive with strangers and could bite!

That's funny😂What a pair of t*ers

BachAndByte · 01/09/2025 10:03

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 10:02

Your part of the every Tom duck and Harry brigade also 🙄👍

im not standing there working out which dog owner has more rights to be in a human space 😂

I think your dogs are all annoying and wish you’d leave them at home.

You seriously expect someone with a genuine assistance dog to leave it at home?

Do you also object to wheelchairs?

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 10:02

WonderingAboutBabies · 01/09/2025 07:58

I hate it. My local shopping centre is now dog friendly. I have an Assistance Dog and he gets so distracted and confused at dogs in what used to be dog free areas. There's dog piss on every corner in JL so he's now pulling to sniff and other dogs are approaching him to say hello.

Yes - he is fully trained and certified but he is still a dog after all! Shopping centres used to be easy to navigate without every Tom Dick and Harry bringing their dog in ughhh

Your part of the every Tom duck and Harry brigade also 🙄👍

im not standing there working out which dog owner has more rights to be in a human space 😂

I think your dogs are all annoying and wish you’d leave them at home.

Blanketenvy · 01/09/2025 10:01

ILoveWhales · 01/09/2025 09:51

At the risk of sounding unpopular it sounds like no life for you or the dog.

Why is PTS never considered with such a troubled or distressed dog.

PTS? My dog is literally having her best life 😅, loads of exercise, walks in the peak district, stimulation, playing, food and naps. She just struggles with being left on her own at home because she had a really hard start in life, which we are working on and is gradually improving.

ILoveWhales · 01/09/2025 10:00

WhatNoRaisins · 01/09/2025 09:55

That's something else I wonder. I don't remember all these anxious dogs that couldn't cope with being left alone for a few hours when I was younger. We're they just more likely to be put to sleep?

Or they were trained properly. IDK.

But a dog that nervous is life restricting and a risk to other and I dont know why humans restrict their lives in this way for an animal that isn't even that self aware and doesnt apprecaite the sacrifice..

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 10:00

AliceMaforethought · 01/09/2025 08:58

YANBU for this, of course. However, YABU to 'scoff' over people who don't want dogs in pubs and cafes. Perhaps this incident will open your eyes to the fact that a lot of us have to tolerate dogs where they aren't wanted. This woman's entitlement was merely a more extreme example of the entitlement of all too many dog owners.

The only dogs we need to tolerate is guide dogs. Dogs otherwise are not essential to life. Keep you dog at home or in your garden … it would be happier and so would we especially those of us with small children 👍

ShiftySquirrel · 01/09/2025 09:59

I feel sorry for the allergy sufferers and for that reason think that only assistance dogs should be allowed inside shops. That's a human need. Ordinary dogs don't need to be inside shops.

Sadly even being in an indoor environment where dogs or cats have been, but no longer are, triggers asthma attacks and eczema flare ups in my dad.

Iamnotalemming · 01/09/2025 09:58

I am fed up of dogs on trains. I was on a super crowded service recently and the only place I could find to sit was next to a woman with a dog that sat on my feet for the whole journey. I didn't mind so much but the dog smell, ugh, when you can't even open the window on the train anymore. There was a couple with a dog nearby on a four seat table, where I couldn't sit because they had bags over the spare seats. When a bolder traveller than me got on later and asked them to move the bags, they said they'd put them there to stop people their dog didn't know sit by them because it was aggressive with strangers and could bite!

Daygloboo · 01/09/2025 09:58

We are a weird lot though, we British. A lot of ppl think its ok to stand outside a hotel with a flag terrorising vulnerable asylum seekers. And yet its wrong to take a dim view of an owner whose dog is pissing and shitting and growling and licking everything in a park or shop or whatever. I'm not having a go. I'm simply onserving that we are a funny bunch in this country with weird priorities.

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 09:58

Phatgurslyms · 01/09/2025 08:55

Wow. That is awful.

It is. The schools these days only obsess about nut allergy’s. Which I don’t get cause those pupils who cant eat it can sit in a separate table.

But dogs roam around the school and there’s no avoiding that. Not to mention the smell, shedding hairs, phobias, allergy’s, cultural sensitivity’s are over looked 😡

WhatNoRaisins · 01/09/2025 09:55

ILoveWhales · 01/09/2025 09:51

At the risk of sounding unpopular it sounds like no life for you or the dog.

Why is PTS never considered with such a troubled or distressed dog.

That's something else I wonder. I don't remember all these anxious dogs that couldn't cope with being left alone for a few hours when I was younger. We're they just more likely to be put to sleep?

theleafandnotthetree · 01/09/2025 09:55

CancelTheTableAlan · 31/08/2025 21:12

As someone who totally doesn't know anything about dogs can I ask a naive question? If I got a dog, (assuming a suitable breed for that lifestyle) could I get up, take it for a walk for an hour or so, be in the house for like 2 hours, let it out for a wee, then go out and leave it for say 5 hours, then come back and walk it again? Or be pottering round the house,walk the dog at 6pm then go out till midnight?

I mean what does "you can't leave them for long" really mean? I wouldn't want to be constrained more than about that much, I reckon.

Of course you could, I regularly do that with mine and he is none the worse for it. Start as you mean to go on and ensure the dog works around your life, not the other way around. You own it, it doesn't own you.

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 09:54

LancashireButterPie · 01/09/2025 08:52

My friends 7 year old DD gets hayfever like symptoms around dogs. She goes to a school where the headteacher brings her huge wolfhound to school each day and calls it a therapy dog.

Same af my kids school. We was not consulted it just happened. The dogs are smelly, not on leads and big.

What I do not get is peanut butter is banned because of allergies. but the school isnt bothered about kids allergy’s/phobia’s /cutural avoidance about dogs 😡

its like there’s this blind spot when it comes to dogs 🙄

ILoveWhales · 01/09/2025 09:51

Blanketenvy · 31/08/2025 21:37

I'm an annoying person that has taken their dog into shops etc with them. I realise it's not ideal for everyone. I'm in a tricky situation with a rescue dog who can't currently be left for longer than an hour, so broadly am tied to the house as on my own, although I pay for dog sitting/walking etc when I can that mostly just covers times when I need to be in work/appointments rather than an ad hoc me realising last minute I need to pick up something up. I'm doing my best to work on her anxiety so that hopefully this will pass, and i try to avoid treating her like a baby but there's not a quick fix unfortunately

She also does a lot of normal dog activities. Long walks, playing in rivers, sniffing in woods , dog training classes, sleeping so I'm not neglecting her trying to manage a difficult situation.

At the risk of sounding unpopular it sounds like no life for you or the dog.

Why is PTS never considered with such a troubled or distressed dog.

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 09:51

YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 01/09/2025 07:51

Exactly. Previous dogs I wouldn’t have taken as they wouldn’t have liked it. This one would positively enjoy it. I know my dog. Like you say it’s not going to affect anyone else 🤷🏻‍♀️

Like you say it’s not going to affect anyone else 🤷🏻‍♀️

what do you mean by that? 🤔

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 09:50

SchnizelVonKrumm · 01/09/2025 07:04

I've noticed that some NT places are starting to push back though, eg with "paws on paths" signs reminding people to keep Fido off the grass and out the flower beds, and prominent "code of practice" type signs at the entrance.

I’m put of going cause of it. If the dogs was actually in short leads, not aloud on grass and not aloud indoors I would go! Shame it’s another place that has been shut of to my young family. Do many places have become dogs places as the expense of children. I do not get how animals are viewed as more vital than children. 🙄

AzurePanda · 01/09/2025 09:50

We have dogs and I would never dream of bringing them into a shop or a restaurant or pub.

Aubrielle · 01/09/2025 09:50

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 09:27

She was rude

but the I wouldn’t of got in a lift with a dog in it. There smelly , dirty and dangerous. Should not be aloud in human spaces unless there guide dogs

You missed out the word some. Some people are smelly, dirty and dangerous but most are not. It's the same with dogs. There are places that dogs should not be allowed, I don't think a shopping centre is a healthy environment for a dog, unless it is a trained service dog.

PlanetJanette · 01/09/2025 09:49

Velvian · 01/09/2025 09:45

I was in JL yesterday too. The most bizarre thing ever to be trying on clothes in the fitting room and hearing a dog bark.

I can't believe that JL encourage the absolute madness of dog owners' inappropriate behaviour. Im a dog owner, my dog was at home while I was out shopping. No way would I bring my dog out clothes shopping. I dont know WTF is wrong with people these days.

But this is very binary view of how people live their lives. You went out clothes shopping. But many people in John Lewis won’t have gone out for the purposes of going shopping. They will have nipped in to grab something on their way to and from something else.

Aside from Christmas when I like the general buzz I can’t remember the last time I ‘went out shopping’ - as opposed to picking something up from a shop when I’m on my way to or from something else like work/socialising/dog walk etc

Emmafuller79 · 01/09/2025 09:47

Fannyannie · 01/09/2025 09:44

I never took my dog to John Lewis , but I love to see dogs shopping. It must be stressful to do so as you have make sure they have toileted before going in. I couldn’t deal with the worry even though I could get my dog to pee on command , eventually !!! 😂

Bloody love dogs but not all dog owners.

Why do you feel the need to take an animal in to a shop? It’s not an animal space and lots of shoppers don’t like dogs for range of reasons. A dog can stay at home or something else suited to dogs

WhatNoRaisins · 01/09/2025 09:47

The kinder part of me gets that there are a lot of people who have a lot of love to give but can't actually do reciprocal relationships. I get that a pet can be a good stand in. I just don't want to have to deal with the resulting dogs when I'm shopping or trying to enjoy a cafe lunch.

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