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To think this spineless government will give in to grabby train drivers

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LupaMoonhowl · 31/08/2025 09:32

I live in London and wasn’t aware of this till I saw in mentioned in passing on another thread.
It is utterly scandalous that they can hold the city to ransom like this! How can they cut off key transport for 5 days! And no doubt they’re confident that the spineless, incompetent and public sector/vote buying government and cynical chancer Kahn will give into what they demand.
Back to the 70s 😔😔
Tube and DLR strikes - September 2025
Strikes are planned on the Tube and DLR.

  • From Sunday 7 to Thursday 11 September 2025, Tube services will be severely disrupted, with little to no service expected
  • Any services that do run between Monday 8 and Friday 12 September will start later than usual with no service before 08:00
  • On Tuesday 8 and Thursday 11 September 2025, there will also be no service on the DLR
OP posts:
BallerinaRadio · 31/08/2025 09:49

Well a little bit of information into why they're striking might have been good. I would imagine they're striking for a good reason, but I don't think you're that fussed about the detail are you?

SprayWhiteDung · 31/08/2025 09:48

Whichever way your sympathies lie, I think it should be borne in mind that trains driven by humans aren't likely to exist at all for very much longer.

They're well along the line with driverless cars, and even lorries, to be used across the entire massive, congested road network; so with transport that only moves along a certain pre-determined number of locked in rails, it's far, far easier to automate it.

The perpetual industrial action really is a bit like turkeys voting for Christmas.

Ryeman · 31/08/2025 09:47

EmpressoftheMundane · 31/08/2025 09:39

The train drivers strike all the time. I remember in the early oughts when they struck because their comrade had been caught on video playing squash when he was off sick.

It was ever thus.

True - I know someone who works for TFL and said once that every strike about ‘conditions’ includes reinstating a bunch of people who were sacked for xyz. TFL refuse to do that (rightly) and so the whole deal goes out the window, even if the union was satisfied with the pay element on offer.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 31/08/2025 09:46

You complain about train strikes.

Then you complain about a ‘spineless’ government giving into them.

How would you solve it? Seems solving it is the only way. Why is that ‘spineless?’

Anewuser · 31/08/2025 09:43

Every year there are train strikes.

I don’t understand how people start working on the trains and then complain about the pay/pension/working conditions. It has always been the same.

However, they have a captive market so striking always works.

SprayWhiteDung · 31/08/2025 09:42

Hiddenmnetter · 31/08/2025 09:34

Maybe since they can’t negotiate their salaries individually like most people can, TfL should just default to paying inflation based wage rises so they don’t have to fight for it? I’m sure that would be preferable all round.

"Like most people can"

Millions of workers can't individually negotiate their salaries at all. NHS employees, teachers, council workers, firefighters, binmen etc. etc.

Bruisername · 31/08/2025 09:40

Are there any details of the working week and extreme shift patterns? Not doubting it but I’ve never seen the actual details so curious

i will just work from home but I feel for those on low incomes who will have to find a way in and those on zero hours contracts

EmpressoftheMundane · 31/08/2025 09:39

The train drivers strike all the time. I remember in the early oughts when they struck because their comrade had been caught on video playing squash when he was off sick.

It was ever thus.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 31/08/2025 09:37

Some info here about the reasons they are striking. It's not just about pay.

RMT will launch rolling strike action over pay, conditions and broken agreements on London Underground - rmt share.google/7AmoJxLB0NyUHQA3c

Hiddenmnetter · 31/08/2025 09:34

Maybe since they can’t negotiate their salaries individually like most people can, TfL should just default to paying inflation based wage rises so they don’t have to fight for it? I’m sure that would be preferable all round.