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McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 21:40

Posting here for traffic.

My DD starts year 7 next week. Local secondary. Nothing fancy.

She and we are respectful of uniform policy and have purchased everything we need to. She looks bloody smart and we (and she) can't wait for her to start.

As 11 year old girls will do, they have tried their whole set up in front of their friends and all of them said the same thing:

"You will get sent home with those shoes"

They throw detentions out for the most minor of uniform infractions and DD is now having a massive anxiety spiral that she's going to get a detention or worse sent home 1st day because of her shoes.

I spoke to a friend who works in the school office and showed her a picture and her response was "oooh, I'm not sure. Air Force 1s are the best way to go"

Since when have trainers been a smarter, more acceptable form of shoe than a patent loafer??!!!

For full disclosure she has chosen the Kickers Edie loafer as in the link

https://www.kickers.co.uk/adult-women-edie-loafer-patent-leather-black/14913640.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UK+-+Kickers+-+Search+-+Brand+-+Core+-+Broad&utm_term=kickers&utm_content=brand+-+Kickers&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20162340688&gbraid=0AAAAADiNwZXHWpJ1LFmAfTE2drVjkEy8k&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwsrFBhD6ARIsAPnUFD1w_j6Ufhx1cfFv1a1fF0Ageht-fZYRGu_xo9ofOilAOdjE7KgGjEgaAoLrEALw_wcb

This school stipulates that hair past chin lemgth needs to be in a ponytail with a hair band that is the closest colour to the individuals hair colour, yet believes that a trainer is smarter/more acceptable than the loafer.

AIBU here?! I know trainers are more acceptable these days but are they really considered smarter considering how rigid they are on the smaller items?!

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Harrysmummy246 · 31/08/2025 07:10

That shoe wouldn't have been acceptable when I was a kid either. That is a clear heel.
And have you been under a rock to not hear about uniform strictness? 10 years since I last worked in schools and we had issues like this then

DappledThings · 31/08/2025 07:08

ScarlettOYara · 31/08/2025 07:06

Schools nowadays always require safe, flat shoes. I haven't seen a girl in heeled shoes at school for many years.

Wasn't allowed at mine even back in the 90s.

ScarlettOYara · 31/08/2025 07:06

Adelle79360 · 31/08/2025 06:53

Absolutely!!! I looked at the shoes in the link and honestly couldn’t work out why they’d not be allowed. Didn’t realise secondary schools required flat shoes these days. Every girl in the 90’s wore the shoes in the link to secondary school, so no wonder OP thought they would be appropriate.

I think they’re very nice school shoes OP, but clearly mine aren’t of secondary age yet so I haven’t encountered the shoe policies yet!!

Schools nowadays always require safe, flat shoes. I haven't seen a girl in heeled shoes at school for many years.

SunnyDolly · 31/08/2025 07:02

Way, way back when (I started high school in 1996) I wore really chunky Kickers heels, and Pods too, if anyone remembers those. Thick in the Spice Girls Buffalo days and we all wore them, but oh my gosh @McSteamyorMcdreamy they were so fucking uncomfortable. The balls of your feet would be crying by lunchtime. Honestly I’d never recommend them. They’re just not a shoe to be wearing all day long.

I also laughed a bit at your OP saying you’d been respectful of the uniform policy and your next post said the policy states ‘no heels’ 🤣 I know it’s hard when you just want them to look the part but, as you’ve conceded already on this thread, you’ve missed the mark completely on this one. Just get her the comfy trainers and move on - don’t single the poor kid out from Day 1!

Waterweight · 31/08/2025 06:58

Sorry OP I was getting ready to support you but those are not school shoes these days

Adelle79360 · 31/08/2025 06:53

Zippidydoodah · 30/08/2025 21:46

Too high but we all had those exact ones in the nineties!

Absolutely!!! I looked at the shoes in the link and honestly couldn’t work out why they’d not be allowed. Didn’t realise secondary schools required flat shoes these days. Every girl in the 90’s wore the shoes in the link to secondary school, so no wonder OP thought they would be appropriate.

I think they’re very nice school shoes OP, but clearly mine aren’t of secondary age yet so I haven’t encountered the shoe policies yet!!

Pipsquiggle · 31/08/2025 06:53

Just to say any trainer type shoes (AF1s) would definitely not be allowed at my DCs school.
They have to wear leather shoes. We go for these types
You might like this at John Lewis:
https://www.johnlewis.com/clarks-kids-lorcam-edge-leather-derby-school-shoes-black/p112078170?s_share=jlappdroid

MaryBeardsShoes · 31/08/2025 06:49

In my area most of the schools allow air force 1s (or 90% of the kinds break the rules). I think they look scruffy as heck, and daft when kids choose to wear shirts, but they must be comfortable and practical.

DappledThings · 31/08/2025 06:43

usedtobeaylis · 31/08/2025 00:20

I can't get past a school dictating the colour hair band never mind the shoes

I thought that was totally normal. I assumed it would be the case as soon as DD started primary and bought a load of navy bobbles for that. A lot of the girls wear all kinds of colours and I was quite surprised to find that it wasn't actually mentioned in the uniform policy.

I still insist on it for DD. It is part of uniform as far as I'm concerned.

TimeForATerf · 31/08/2025 06:12

The Kickers literally say “adult” in the title. I can only imagine an 11 year old in them, shudders.

Glad you changed your mind.

Bowies · 31/08/2025 05:56

HaddawayAndShite · 30/08/2025 23:16

It's great schools are insisting shoes should be flat. Foot health is so bloody important and 5+ hours a day in heels even that small is very damaging. Why does looking smart trump long term health?

It's a shame the actual other options are just as bad. Those loafers just up thread will cause bunions eventually.

I agree; developing feet and all that - also they are most likely traipsing up and down stairs all day, not in one classroom anymore.

Having said that, the classic Kickers I posted upthread I think even my feet would cope well with,

(My feet wouldn’t cope with Nike Airforce bloody awful trainers. They really hurt my feet).

The ones I posed were the classic style but are adult women, as most year 7 will be in adult women’s sizes.

The ones OP bought ARE advertised as school schools, ludicrous and irresponsible but obviously ’back to school’ is the advertising flavour of rhe moment and their intention is to sell.

I’m amazed anyone wouldn’t just roll their eyes at them and scroll past to the sensible school looking shoes, but there seem to be these threads every year.

Zanatdy · 31/08/2025 04:25

our school doesn’t allow trainers, and certainly wouldn’t allow heels, which they definitely are. A heel is any shoe that’s not flat. I had a pair of those in the 90’s, not for school though.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 31/08/2025 03:06

I'm surprised you have to ask. They are completely unacceptable with that heel.

Clonakilla · 31/08/2025 03:03

Trainers may not be smarter but they’re certainly more appropriate, I would think that’s the school’s main concern?

These shoes aren’t suitable for an 11 year old even outside of school.

thebabayaga · 31/08/2025 03:00

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 23:27

Thank you all for your (brutally) honest feedback!

Do love AIBU sometimes. God forbid someone posts and actually agrees with the vast majority (in terms of a acceptability).

Night all!

Edited

Don't humiliate your child just to prove a point. You have been told by those who know she will be sent home. Buy her the shoes the school requires. It doesn't matter if you think "insert reasons", do it anyway.

99bottlesofkombucha · 31/08/2025 02:58

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:34

The looks the looks...... I have literally just said I care about whether she is "smart".

If I wanted her to "look" fashionable I would have already purchased the £120 trainers.

Jesus Christ!

I can’t be the only mum here thinking there is nothing at all smart about young girls in heels.

99bottlesofkombucha · 31/08/2025 02:56

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 21:59

Policy says no heels or stiletto. I clearly have a different definition of heels and maybe I was being massively nostalgic when she chose them in the shop

Thankyou for your feedback DH is ordering AF1s as we speak and she can follow the herd as every alternate (less heel) I have showed her has been a no.

I just hate that trainers are more acceptable!!

These are heels. They look at least 6cm high at the heel, what else could you possibly imagine them to be??

of bloody course trainers are more acceptable than that?? And the reason you can’t get her other shoes than trainers isn’t because of the policy, it seems to be because your daughter says no- my children don’t get any say in suitable uniform school shoes for high school.

CJsGoldfish · 31/08/2025 02:09

Who puts an 11 yr old in those for school? 😂

Nothing wrong with a plain black leather trainer. I wear particular, supportive ones as my work shoes 🤷‍♀️

SpidersAreShitheads · 31/08/2025 01:57

I’m actually really pleased that schools prioritise the safety and comfort of children over looking “bloody smart”.

I can remember wearing chunky heels like this in the late 80s/early 90s - no one cared how high our heels were and consequently we were doing all kinds of damage to ourselves traipsing all over school, up and down stairs, and walking from/to home. It was terrible for our safety! And plenty of ankles hurt too.

Clear guidelines like no heels prevent school from turning into a fashion show and means teen girls aren’t tottering around in unsuitable shoes like the OP posted.

I don’t normally like super-strict uniform policies but this one makes total sense.

NJC7 · 31/08/2025 01:57

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:50

Not refusing to look at. At the point of purchasing we liked them and DD tried them on and once again ...we thought they looked smart. It's only since she's got the full uniform and tried it with her friends that the element of doubt crept in and I consulted with an school working friend as to whether they would be acceptable...etc etc..

I asked the question and since been given a resounding answer.

I STILL stand by the fact that unacceptable in today's secondary school standards they are still smarter than the "go to" for the school my DD is going to .

I think we all get the gist that you’re obsessed with what you think is “smart” as opposed to sensible, safe or practical.

NJC7 · 31/08/2025 01:53

InWalksBarberalla · 30/08/2025 22:47

When did the school say they think that trainers look smarter than heeled loafers? That seems to be something you've made up.

Edited

My above comment was in reply to this one

NJC7 · 31/08/2025 01:52

Exactly! The delusional OP seems to think that appearance is the only thing the school is concerned about, as opposed to safety.

MulberryMoon · 31/08/2025 01:47

StressedOot3 · 31/08/2025 00:38

English schools seem sooooo strict compared to Scotland with their uniform/grooming policies, actually ridiculous.

What do you think of these Scottish uniforms?

Since when?
blueclip · 31/08/2025 01:31

There are variations between schools. Ours wouldn’t allow parent shoes or heeled shoes. Or trainers.

user1492757084 · 31/08/2025 01:17

Your daughter could not run about playing handball at recess in those high heels. The heels are too restricting. Were there any low heeled versions in patient leather?
Leather lace ups are smarter than trainers. Choose a low heel leather lace up and polish them every day.

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