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McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 21:40

Posting here for traffic.

My DD starts year 7 next week. Local secondary. Nothing fancy.

She and we are respectful of uniform policy and have purchased everything we need to. She looks bloody smart and we (and she) can't wait for her to start.

As 11 year old girls will do, they have tried their whole set up in front of their friends and all of them said the same thing:

"You will get sent home with those shoes"

They throw detentions out for the most minor of uniform infractions and DD is now having a massive anxiety spiral that she's going to get a detention or worse sent home 1st day because of her shoes.

I spoke to a friend who works in the school office and showed her a picture and her response was "oooh, I'm not sure. Air Force 1s are the best way to go"

Since when have trainers been a smarter, more acceptable form of shoe than a patent loafer??!!!

For full disclosure she has chosen the Kickers Edie loafer as in the link

https://www.kickers.co.uk/adult-women-edie-loafer-patent-leather-black/14913640.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UK+-+Kickers+-+Search+-+Brand+-+Core+-+Broad&utm_term=kickers&utm_content=brand+-+Kickers&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20162340688&gbraid=0AAAAADiNwZXHWpJ1LFmAfTE2drVjkEy8k&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwsrFBhD6ARIsAPnUFD1w_j6Ufhx1cfFv1a1fF0Ageht-fZYRGu_xo9ofOilAOdjE7KgGjEgaAoLrEALw_wcb

This school stipulates that hair past chin lemgth needs to be in a ponytail with a hair band that is the closest colour to the individuals hair colour, yet believes that a trainer is smarter/more acceptable than the loafer.

AIBU here?! I know trainers are more acceptable these days but are they really considered smarter considering how rigid they are on the smaller items?!

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BabyCatFace · 31/08/2025 08:52

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:07

Again, thanks for all your feedback.

I stand by the fact that she still looks bloody smarter in them than a pair of bloody trainers!

It's weird that you're so focused on how she looks. Trainers are far more comfortable and practical than loafers with heels for anyone, but especially an 11 year old child. She will feel so much better in trainers.

GlomOfNit · 31/08/2025 08:52

GlomOfNit · 31/08/2025 08:40

This thread, and the indefatigable OP ... 😂I'm not sure what's made me snort the harder - the initial innocent posting of the link to UTTERLY UNSUITABLE SHOES for an 11 year old schoolchild; the OP's dogged doubling down in the face of her daughter's friends' conviction, her own friend's recommendation, and pretty much all the posts on here saying that chunky soled, heeled shoes will not be acceptable and are bad for kids; or the fact that these fugly nightmares from the late 90's are apparently back.

I used to lecture in heeled loafers in my first job in the early noughties because I'm 5'2" and wanted to be taller than at least a couple of my students 😂It didn't work and I used to trip over the soles and chunky heels as they sort of got caught on one another. I tripped over my own shoes, OP.

Honestly this is daft. I'm surprised but pleased if people in the know at the school think that Air Force 1s (had to look them up) are going to be acceptable, but plain black trainers with adequate arch support always struck me as a perfectly good school shoe.

But apologies to the OP for laughing at her. Having read ALL her posts, I do see that she took feedback onboard very quickly and more sane shoes have been ordered. Smile

Pancakeorcrepe · 31/08/2025 08:51

I see you have finally accepted defeat 😂 I still can’t understand why you would want an 11 year old wearing those high heels to school. Far too young to wear heels like that. Your definition of “smart” is very old fashioned and also a little bit sexualised if you see nothing wrong in an 11 year old wearing high heels like that

sanityisamyth · 31/08/2025 08:51

MulberryMoon · 30/08/2025 23:11

Best to buy two

🤣

SomeOfTheTrouble · 31/08/2025 08:45

99bottlesofkombucha · 31/08/2025 08:43

I was a girl in the 90s, they’d never in a million years have been allowed at any of the high schools near me.

I wore shoes like the ones in the OP to secondary school in the 90s, because they were fashionable. I wish they hadn’t been allowed because they were totally impractical, and painful to walk around on all day.
Or I should have been less of a sheep and worn flats despite fashion!

Butchyrestingface · 31/08/2025 08:44

Clonakilla · 31/08/2025 08:39

I was in high school in the 90s. I certainly recall these shoes - never on anyone at school and never on a child this young.

Really surprised these were ok for an 11 yr old at your school even in the 90s.

I started secondary as a 12 year in 1990. Went to several schools, both in the UK and abroad. There were also students who 'interpreted' the uniform policy a bit loosely but I can't recall ever seeing anyone wearing shoes like that in school. They'd have been sent home and told to rethink their attire.

Redburnett · 31/08/2025 08:44

I never understand the point of posts like the OP's original post. When you choose a school you have to accept it will have rules, and you need to follow those rules, including the ones you personally disagree with. People have told the OP the shoes are unsuitable and her DD may get sent home. Instead of bleating about DD's anxiety the solution is to buy a pair of shoes that comply with school rules. Or move to Sheffield where there is still a secondary school with no uniform.

99bottlesofkombucha · 31/08/2025 08:43

Adelle79360 · 31/08/2025 06:53

Absolutely!!! I looked at the shoes in the link and honestly couldn’t work out why they’d not be allowed. Didn’t realise secondary schools required flat shoes these days. Every girl in the 90’s wore the shoes in the link to secondary school, so no wonder OP thought they would be appropriate.

I think they’re very nice school shoes OP, but clearly mine aren’t of secondary age yet so I haven’t encountered the shoe policies yet!!

I was a girl in the 90s, they’d never in a million years have been allowed at any of the high schools near me.

Hellovation · 31/08/2025 08:43

Why would you put your child in heels?!

no those are definitely not OK for school. Air force 1s are standard.

Butchyrestingface · 31/08/2025 08:42

Don't understand how the OP keeps arguing that the school think trainers are smarter than humungous heeled 'loafers'. Did the school actually say this?

They no doubt (like everyone with common sense) think that trainers are a good deal SAFER than those chunky heeled things OP linked to. That'll be their motivation.

SomeOfTheTrouble · 31/08/2025 08:41

Bekcee7 · 31/08/2025 08:39

I thought this post was a clickbait joke. Who on Earth thinks a heel (however chunky and ‘smart’) is appropriate for a child that age, at school!?

I still think it’s a click bait joke. The obvious heels when she says the school have stated ‘no heels’, plus then refusing to accept that the school may prefer ‘practical’ over ‘smart’…

GlomOfNit · 31/08/2025 08:40

This thread, and the indefatigable OP ... 😂I'm not sure what's made me snort the harder - the initial innocent posting of the link to UTTERLY UNSUITABLE SHOES for an 11 year old schoolchild; the OP's dogged doubling down in the face of her daughter's friends' conviction, her own friend's recommendation, and pretty much all the posts on here saying that chunky soled, heeled shoes will not be acceptable and are bad for kids; or the fact that these fugly nightmares from the late 90's are apparently back.

I used to lecture in heeled loafers in my first job in the early noughties because I'm 5'2" and wanted to be taller than at least a couple of my students 😂It didn't work and I used to trip over the soles and chunky heels as they sort of got caught on one another. I tripped over my own shoes, OP.

Honestly this is daft. I'm surprised but pleased if people in the know at the school think that Air Force 1s (had to look them up) are going to be acceptable, but plain black trainers with adequate arch support always struck me as a perfectly good school shoe.

Bekcee7 · 31/08/2025 08:39

I thought this post was a clickbait joke. Who on Earth thinks a heel (however chunky and ‘smart’) is appropriate for a child that age, at school!?

Clonakilla · 31/08/2025 08:39

Adelle79360 · 31/08/2025 06:53

Absolutely!!! I looked at the shoes in the link and honestly couldn’t work out why they’d not be allowed. Didn’t realise secondary schools required flat shoes these days. Every girl in the 90’s wore the shoes in the link to secondary school, so no wonder OP thought they would be appropriate.

I think they’re very nice school shoes OP, but clearly mine aren’t of secondary age yet so I haven’t encountered the shoe policies yet!!

I was in high school in the 90s. I certainly recall these shoes - never on anyone at school and never on a child this young.

Really surprised these were ok for an 11 yr old at your school even in the 90s.

JamesWebbSpaceTelescope · 31/08/2025 08:32

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:44

I would like to say I don't care about how DD looks as in how she walks out the front door.....I find it odd that the school though thinks trainers are "smarter" than what she has.

Unacceptable (since my OP) clearly which I have 100% taken on board as per my PP.

I suspect the school doesn’t think they look “smarter” but they are more appropriate for a school setting. All children should have practical shoes that are comfortable, safe, reasonably water proof (to not get wet socks in the slightest drizzle), allow feet to grow properly, allow them to run around.

Platform soles and heels (even a chunky one) doesn’t meet those.

I think it is great a school is allowing trainer style shoes, shoes at this age should be practical above all else.

Holidayholiday2025 · 31/08/2025 08:26

Meant kindly, but I really think you need to do some research about the affect of heels on developing feet.

No sensible parent should be encouraging their 11yo DC to be wearing high heels like that for their everyday shoe. Well made trainers or school shoes would be much better.

If you don't consider them heels, that's even more telling. Those heels look huge to me!

Just because shops sell them as school shoes doesn't mean they're actually good for their feet.

Google says heels for children can:

"negatively impact the spine by altering posture, increasing pressure on the back, and potentially leading to back pain, poor gait, and other musculoskeletal issues. Proper-fitting, supportive school shoes are crucial for developing feet, as ill-fitting or high-heeled options can cause foot deformities and affect the alignment of the entire body, including the spine."

Our foot bones don't fuse properly until some point between 12 and 22 so at 11yo the foot is still developing and absolutely should not be in a heeled shoe day in and out, no matter how smart you think it looks.

Lotsofsnacks · 31/08/2025 08:18

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 23:27

Thank you all for your (brutally) honest feedback!

Do love AIBU sometimes. God forbid someone posts and actually agrees with the vast majority (in terms of a acceptability).

Night all!

Edited

She could have still gone for a chunky loafer, but with a flatter heel?

user1471538283 · 31/08/2025 08:18

I was expecting the kind of loafers I have, very flat. That's a big heel especially for a child. They wouldn't have been allowed when I or my DCs were at school.

CosyMintFish · 31/08/2025 08:07

I’m just baffled at the choice being between those heeled shoes and trainers. Both are banned at my dc’s schools. We somehow managed to provide footwear: Clark’s, Startrite, Geox, Kickers provide a decent range. M&S too.

Missingducks · 31/08/2025 07:55

Thanks for the quick memory jolt back to school in the 80s where I desperately wanted a pair of shoes that everyone else had from Dolcis but my mum made me have the 'not quite the same' version from Clarks and the sodding things just wouldn't wear out (unlike the Dolcis ones others had). Then I still had the Clarks when others had moved on to Pixie boots.

Oh God, I have now remembered the red leather sandals I had at infant school which I adored and was sick on.

Starlight7080 · 31/08/2025 07:54

My dds would love those shoes for school.
They cant wear trainers except for pe.
So its just flat plain black shoes with no bows/design features at all. They are very strict

HareWonTheRace · 31/08/2025 07:45

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:22

Because the school will stipulate what colour hair band they can wear, but find trainers acceptable. I don't understand that.

I have taken onboard that the shoes we have got are wrong.

Yet I still stand by the fact that (irrespective of the height) the still look bloody smarter than a trainer

Don't you want her to be comfortable, or is looking smarter more important to you. A good pair of trainers will be much more comfortable to wear all day, and safer.

Madformaltesers · 31/08/2025 07:31

I had those in the 90s, personally though I am surprised branded trainers are deemed acceptable - thought the whole idea was to stay away from branded shoes/trainers?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/08/2025 07:22

Waaay too young for heels. She's just 11 fgs. 🤦‍♀️

Earthbound4 · 31/08/2025 07:11

Not a good choice of school shoe. Would not have been accepted at my DC’s state secondary school.