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DS18 might get booted from supported accommodation

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Baberg · 30/08/2025 14:37

my DS turned 18 last week, he’s been in supported accomadtion for a few months cos i cudnt cope at home anymore. it’s a shared house run by the council with staff around some of the time, they help them learn to live independent and got rules they got to stick to, like curfew and no drink/drugs etc.

it got to the point here i was begging social to take over, he was smashing doors, shouting in my face, stealing from me and the little ones. he nicked my debit card once and spent nearly £100 on weed, i reported it but then dropped it cos i cudn’t face him getting arrested. people will probly say that was stupid but i was scared what he’d do if i didn’t. he’s punched holes in the walls, broken his sisters ipad, brought random girls and lads back at 2am, one time 5 of them sat in the living room smoking weed while my younger 2 was crying in bed. i called the police a few times when it got out of hand, but then felt guilty after and didn’t press charges.

when he moved to supported accomadtion the rules were clear: no guests after 10, curfew 10pm weekdays and midnight weekends, no alcohol or drugs inside, keep noise down, attend meetings with his keyworker, cook and clean his own space. i thought maybe he’d do better with outsiders setting rules cos he don’t listen to me. but i’ve had calls already, he’s sneaking girls in, mates hanging round, loud music, the neighbours complaining. staff found alcohol in his room more than once and say it stinks of weed sometimes. he skips his meetings, refuses to cook or clean, just sits in bed all day on his phone.

worse is some nights he don’t even go back there. i’ll get messages at 3am saying he’s at a mates, or he’ll disappear for two days then roll back in. staff told me they’re not a hotel, he has to follow rules or he’s out. he’s already smashed a door there when they told him off, and they said he’s now on final warning.

part of me feels guilty cos maybe i let him get away with too much when he was younger. i did sometimes give him money even when i knew it would go on weed just to keep the peace. i let him stay out all night cos if i tried to stop him he’d just kick off and i couldn’t face another row. so maybe i made it worse. but at the same time i’ve begged him to behave, begged him to think about his future, and he just laughs in my face.

our relationship now is awful. when he wants something he calls me, when i say no he sends nasty messages. he turned up on my doorstep screaming last month cos i refused to transfer him £20. my younger ones were hiding in their room crying. i didn’t let him in but i sat on the sofa shaking for hours after. i feel like he hates me most of the time.

i’m terrified cos i no if he gets thrown out he’ll come here expecting me to take him in, but i can’t. it nearly broke me last time, i was on antidepressants and i couldn’t keep my younger DC safe. but i can already hear people saying “he’s only just turned 18, how can you let your son be homeless?” and i don’t no how i’ll live with myself if he ends up sofa surfing or worse.

AIBU to say he can’t come back here if he gets kicked out? i feel like the worst mum in the world but i carnt go back to that life, my younger DC need peace and safety.

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BountifulPantry · 02/09/2025 19:56

Baberg · 31/08/2025 10:49

they do weekly tickets and day tickets here, he’d probably just get the day one for £6. i know it doesn’t sound loads but even if i give him that he could still use it toward weed if he’s only short a couple of quid, so i don’t really see how it helps much. i don’t mind helping him get to the job centre but i don’t want to feel like i’m just funding the weed again.

it’s about a 45 minute walk into the city centre so i doubt he’d do it. he’d probably just not bother showing up, which then means his UC gets messed up and it all spirals again. it’s about 20 minutes on the bus and the bus stop is literally right outside the job centre so no effort once he’s on it.

Its Only a 45 mins walk. Young man with no job- no excuse.

Say no OP.

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 15:11

Baberg · 31/08/2025 15:09

i do think it means a lot to him for dd to be in his life again, he’s always messaging her saying he misses her and wants to see her. but the problem is he hasn’t actually apologised to her, which i think would go a long way. all he’s said is that he didn’t mean to smash her ipad and wishes he hadn’t, but that’s not the same as a proper sorry and i don’t think it’s helped her at all with wanting to see him. she’s still hurt and doesn’t trust him, which i understand.

i agree the bullying was really damaging, and with no male role model around he just bottled everything up and blamed me instead. i do think if he’d had someone else to talk to back then maybe things wouldn’t have got this bad.

That makes sense Baberg, everyone wants a genuine apology in order to forgive. Do you think you could try to act as intermediary? It seems such a shame for this one thing to destroy a good relationship and maybe some give and take on both sides could help reunite them.

Baberg · 31/08/2025 15:09

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 12:59

It seems it really means a lot to him for his sister to be in his life. Do you think there’s any hope your daughter could forgive him (with boundaries)? He obviously trusts her and I guess what happened caused him acute shame (not easy to deal with when young and sensitive). I think it would help him to have that familial connection again. And it would be a step removed from you with hope that it could go towards repairing your damaged relationship. What do you think?

And the bullying, it’s so damaging particularly as he he had no male to go to for advice (and I’m not judging OP).

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i do think it means a lot to him for dd to be in his life again, he’s always messaging her saying he misses her and wants to see her. but the problem is he hasn’t actually apologised to her, which i think would go a long way. all he’s said is that he didn’t mean to smash her ipad and wishes he hadn’t, but that’s not the same as a proper sorry and i don’t think it’s helped her at all with wanting to see him. she’s still hurt and doesn’t trust him, which i understand.

i agree the bullying was really damaging, and with no male role model around he just bottled everything up and blamed me instead. i do think if he’d had someone else to talk to back then maybe things wouldn’t have got this bad.

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Suns1nE · 31/08/2025 14:29

You aren’t being unreasonable not to let him home. Personally I think you should have pressed charges for previous offences. I say that was someone who was in the exact same situation regarding my sons behaviour and hands down having him arrested was the best thing I ever did for him. 5 years down the line he will tell people the same.

tough love. Is the only way sometimes

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 14:08

To the 2 posters above, how did you get your children mental health support??

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 14:07

Clangingpots · 31/08/2025 14:04

Only by us stepping back - (evicting him) did they step forward. We begged for help from early teens and got no where.

getting support for MH is so hard but once he was in supported accommodation - suddenly a care coordinator was appointed and a Sw and things slowly improved for him when he finally got the right help.

it shouldn’t be this hard - but it is.

But he’s in supported accommodation and isn’t getting help.

Clangingpots · 31/08/2025 14:04

Only by us stepping back - (evicting him) did they step forward. We begged for help from early teens and got no where.

getting support for MH is so hard but once he was in supported accommodation - suddenly a care coordinator was appointed and a Sw and things slowly improved for him when he finally got the right help.

it shouldn’t be this hard - but it is.

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 13:50

Clangingpots · 31/08/2025 13:43

Don’t let anyone guilt you into having him back with ‘he’s only 18’

you know the history and what it did to you.

the best thing you can do for yourself, your other kids and him is to flag him up in writing to as many services as possible.

if he is evicted from his accommodation you email everyone from council, Housing, social service, MH services etc stating very very clearly that he is a ‘Vulnerable adult’ who needs support and housing .

you state in writing that you cannot accommodate him on safeguarding grounds of your other children and yourself - that he falls under their remit due to his considerable needs and a solution needs to be found.

do not give an inch.

you can visit him on neutral ground or phone him etc as much as you want but he cannot come into the house.

unless you’ve had a child go off the rails (we have) you cannot understand and it is so easy for others to judge you when they haven’t experienced the lying, violence etc .

protect yourself and your kids and help him by advocating on paper for his needs.

He is 18 - yes your son but you do not have to accept any responsibility for housing him .

The best thing we ever did for our son was refuse to have him home - as it forced services to start helping him rather than leaving it to us with no professional intervention which is what he needed.

Now we have a great relationship as he has had the mh support and counselling he needed.

sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind in order to get what you need. If services see mum and dad picking up the pieces - they are happy to leave you to it. Even when you are totally bring destroyed by their behaviour and are on your knees begging for help - you are ignored and deemed. Be yo cope.

signpost him to services but definitely don’t house him.

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Glad your child got counselling support from mental health services @Clangingpots .

Clangingpots · 31/08/2025 13:43

Don’t let anyone guilt you into having him back with ‘he’s only 18’

you know the history and what it did to you.

the best thing you can do for yourself, your other kids and him is to flag him up in writing to as many services as possible.

if he is evicted from his accommodation you email everyone from council, Housing, social service, MH services etc stating very very clearly that he is a ‘Vulnerable adult’ who needs support and housing .

you state in writing that you cannot accommodate him on safeguarding grounds of your other children and yourself - that he falls under their remit due to his considerable needs and a solution needs to be found.

do not give an inch.

you can visit him on neutral ground or phone him etc as much as you want but he cannot come into the house.

unless you’ve had a child go off the rails (we have) you cannot understand and it is so easy for others to judge you when they haven’t experienced the lying, violence etc .

protect yourself and your kids and help him by advocating on paper for his needs.

He is 18 - yes your son but you do not have to accept any responsibility for housing him .

The best thing we ever did for our son was refuse to have him home - as it forced services to start helping him rather than leaving it to us with no professional intervention which is what he needed.

Now we have a great relationship as he has had the mh support and counselling he needed.

sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind in order to get what you need. If services see mum and dad picking up the pieces - they are happy to leave you to it. Even when you are totally bring destroyed by their behaviour and are on your knees begging for help - you are ignored and deemed. Be yo cope.

signpost him to services but definitely don’t house him.

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 12:59

Baberg · 31/08/2025 12:51

i do think the bullying affected him more than i realised at the time. i tried to get him out of that environment when the school weren’t taking it seriously, but maybe the damage was already done. my dd is a year younger but she was more like the big sister to him, they were together all the time and she even used to defend him to me when he’d kicked off. they’d go bowling and cinema a lot, she really did try with him. he’s been asking her lately to go out with him again but she’s said no, and i don’t blame her after what he’s done, but i still worry for him.

the only people he sees now are also into drugs and that scares me. i worry about them taking advantage, getting him into dealing or crime, or even sexually, cos he is an addict and if he was desperate enough i don’t know what he’d do. i worry about overdoses as well, or mixing stuff if he ever tries anything harder. it just feels like there’s danger whichever way he turns.

It seems it really means a lot to him for his sister to be in his life. Do you think there’s any hope your daughter could forgive him (with boundaries)? He obviously trusts her and I guess what happened caused him acute shame (not easy to deal with when young and sensitive). I think it would help him to have that familial connection again. And it would be a step removed from you with hope that it could go towards repairing your damaged relationship. What do you think?

And the bullying, it’s so damaging particularly as he he had no male to go to for advice (and I’m not judging OP).

Baberg · 31/08/2025 12:51

i do think the bullying affected him more than i realised at the time. i tried to get him out of that environment when the school weren’t taking it seriously, but maybe the damage was already done. my dd is a year younger but she was more like the big sister to him, they were together all the time and she even used to defend him to me when he’d kicked off. they’d go bowling and cinema a lot, she really did try with him. he’s been asking her lately to go out with him again but she’s said no, and i don’t blame her after what he’s done, but i still worry for him.

the only people he sees now are also into drugs and that scares me. i worry about them taking advantage, getting him into dealing or crime, or even sexually, cos he is an addict and if he was desperate enough i don’t know what he’d do. i worry about overdoses as well, or mixing stuff if he ever tries anything harder. it just feels like there’s danger whichever way he turns.

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Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 12:32

Could you try this for support for him? https://www.dyslexia.uk.net

I wonder if they could signpost him for other help/diagnosis.

Home - The Dyslexia Association

https://www.dyslexia.uk.net

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 12:20

Baberg · 31/08/2025 12:13

he has dyslexia and dyscalculia but no other diagnosis. i do suspect he’s got mh issues though, especially with the way he’s self medicating with the weed. i tried when he was younger, i did take him to the gp but they didn’t listen, just told him to go to bed earlier and brushed it off, and now it’s worse with the weed on top.

i know the staff are right when they say he needs to be more careful with money and everything else, but he doesn’t want to hear it and he won’t go to them when he’s struggling. he just shuts down and then comes straight to me instead, but i can’t fix it for him anymore.

This is so desperately sad. He’s obviously been let down by the doctor there, why didn’t they take you seriously? I don’t like how he’s being dismissed here either, a boy doesn’t suddenly become a man on his 18th birthday, particularly if he’s had no male parental input. Nobody would say it about a young woman of that age, to just give up and let her fend for herself.

I was hoping you had an older child who could maybe take him under their wing OP. I think it’s really it’s really important for him to have someone he can talk to, someone who can find out if he needs mental health support.

Baberg · 31/08/2025 12:13

he has dyslexia and dyscalculia but no other diagnosis. i do suspect he’s got mh issues though, especially with the way he’s self medicating with the weed. i tried when he was younger, i did take him to the gp but they didn’t listen, just told him to go to bed earlier and brushed it off, and now it’s worse with the weed on top.

i know the staff are right when they say he needs to be more careful with money and everything else, but he doesn’t want to hear it and he won’t go to them when he’s struggling. he just shuts down and then comes straight to me instead, but i can’t fix it for him anymore.

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Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 12:07

I can’t edit my post now. I wanted to add, is he getting any mental health support/ someone to talk to?

Dunnocantthinkofone · 31/08/2025 12:04

Baberg · 31/08/2025 11:58

he is my eldest. i think when he’s asking for money he means for the bus app but i just don’t trust that he’ll actually use it for that. he says he has no money at all but i don’t believe it, it just goes straight on weed. i’ve told him to talk to the staff about it but he said they won’t help, they’ll just tell him he needs to be more careful with his money which he doesn’t want to hear.

Well the staff are right aren’t they? He may not want to hear it but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
As hard as it is, you need to drop the rope. Let him fail. With you keep bailing him out he doesn’t have any incentive to change really does he?

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 11:59

Has he had any diagnoses?

Baberg · 31/08/2025 11:58

he is my eldest. i think when he’s asking for money he means for the bus app but i just don’t trust that he’ll actually use it for that. he says he has no money at all but i don’t believe it, it just goes straight on weed. i’ve told him to talk to the staff about it but he said they won’t help, they’ll just tell him he needs to be more careful with his money which he doesn’t want to hear.

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SadTimesInFife · 31/08/2025 11:21

Give him a one way ticket to Cambodia/Nairobi etc. Make him stand on his own 2 feet.🙄

Shelly369 · 31/08/2025 11:15

Is he the oldest out of your children?

Bababear987 · 31/08/2025 11:11

I used to walk 45mins each way to the city centre where I went to university and a job.

Honestly I'd make it very clear to your son that you are stepping away and there will be no more money or bus tickets or giving in. Life will be what he makes it to some extent, he does sound like he went a bit off the rails and I think you gave in a lot for an easy life. But the time for that has to come to an end and he has to grow up. You have to be hard with him now cause hes not a child. My sister went through a similar self destructive aggressive cycle with the weed although not to the same extent but eventually my mum realised she had to stop making allowances and let her figure things out. Thankfully she did but shes still a very difficult character.

Essentially what you're doing and what you have been doing isnt working so you need to change it. Also are you getting any MH support?

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/08/2025 11:03

It sounds very very difficult

but you cannot have him return to your home. You haven’t “kicked him out”, he’s made it impossible for him to live with you.

tell SS (and him!) that you are not having him back under any circumstances. He’s an adult now and needs to stand on his own two feet and deal with the situation he finds himself in.

CosyMintFish · 31/08/2025 10:58

I wonder if it would be helpful for your ds to experience the consequences of his actions - and perhaps he’s trying to find the boundaries - even if it’s subconsciously. He hasn’t been experienced any criminal justice consequences for his violent and threatening behaviour or his stealing. He’s been given chance after chance. But he doesn’t seem to want the chances. He might have to find himself kicked out of the accommodation to really understand that there are consequences for what he does.

I sympathise about the weed. It’s an awful, awful drug that does so much damage.

Iwasphotoframed · 31/08/2025 10:58

I think by the staff contacting you they are attempting to keep you in the picture about the extreme nature of your son’s behaviour and the realistic level of support that can reasonably be provided to someone (an adult) with that extreme level of behaviour once they reach adulthood.

They are not really expecting you to step in, nor should you with the level of risk your son poses to your younger children and yourself.

He needs to be supported not enabled so the boundaries are absolutely necessary and if he is not in a place to accept the support then he needs to learn by experience how to do that in his life.

It is incredibly sad but you cannot save him from his behaviour and choices.

Orchidgrower · 31/08/2025 10:55

Baberg · 30/08/2025 19:13

he keeps saying the weed is the only thing that makes him feel calm but all i see is him getting angrier and more wound up, it doesn’t calm him at all. i would still go to the GP with him or to drug services but he doesn’t want to know, just shrugs me off and says i’m overreacting.

he’s been messaging his sister saying he misses her and wants to see her but then with me he’s totally different, shouting or giving me grief for no reason. it’s like there are two different people, and i just don’t know which one i’m meant to be worrying about more.

The Weed is a vicious cycle. It may well calm him, but when it wears off the anger will kick in again. Unfortunately there are not usually treatment programmes for Cannabis addiction, probably because there are not substitutes that can be prescribed as part of a support regime. Sadly he is an addict and addicts are rarely able to prioritize anything other than their addiction. He will need to want to change before he can change.

I agree with all the other posters that you need to put the needs of your other children first. Don't let him in, give him food or bus passes not money, meet him in a neutral venue where there are people around. Call the police if he turns up and won't go away. Whether you support court proceedings is a difficult call for you to make, but the police maybe limited in what they can do without a court order, but they can still attend and remove him if he is causing a disturbance outside your home.