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AIBU - being overly generous can become rude?

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HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 13:52

We've just had a family holiday away. Me, husband, toddler, Mum, my brother and BIL. My Mum offered to pay for the accomadation out of some inheritance from our Dad who passed away a few months ago. It was a very nice cottage.

It was a lovely holiday except BIL refused to share the cost of things and insisted on paying for everything himself.

Eg. BIL did a large supermarket shop over £100 and refused us paying half. At a family meal out BIL jumped up before the meal had ended and paid for us all even though we'd agreed beforehand we would pay this time as a thank you to Mum. Again at the chippy BIL tried to pay for us all over £40 and then got in a huff when my husband declined and said we'd pay for ourselves.

It seems like a silly thing to be arguing about but we are more than happy to pay our share and he seemd to huff and puff putting the shopping away or after the meal and said to my brother we weren't being grateful despite refusing any contribution.

This was our only holiday and it was spoilt a bit with BIL sulking and being quiet. Brother and BIL have another holiday planned.

YABU - just be glad you've saved some money
YANBU - it is rude to constantly refuse to share the cost of things

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HappyMamma2023 · 31/08/2025 08:18

SpiritAdder · 31/08/2025 05:02

Where was this holiday?

He was just doing the Spanish hospitality. Your reactions of no, no, we can pay our own would be considered rude and a message to BIL that he isn’t part of the family but a barely tolerated interloper. You didn’t say no, no we can pay towards the cottage to your mum did you? Or feel she “ruined” the entire holiday by paying for the cottage herself?

I cannot fathom how BIL “ruined” your holiday simply acting like any family member would.

I think youhave a chip on your shoulder about paying your own way and you don’t view BIL as a full family member. I also agree with death stare above that you were incredibly rude to not pay for their fish and chips.

Edited

I've not said this ruined our holiday, it was just one part of it which we wish had been different.
For what it's worth this was a British seasode homiday was BIL was a buest of like we were so no need for Spanish hospitality when he wasn't hosting.

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ParmaVioletTea · 31/08/2025 06:14

As an in-law, not the son of your father, he probably wanted to show his gratitude to your mother for her generosity for the holiday.

You were being awkward and ungracious. It is a form of kindness and generosity to accept someone else’s generosity with a good grace.

Your reaction suggests you are defensive and touchy about your ability to pay. That’s your problem, not your BiL’s.

Dancingspleen1 · 31/08/2025 06:10

'He's wanted to play big bollocks. It sounds as though he couldn't take a back seat and appreciate what this holiday meant and the focus not being on him.'

Interesting take on it. Another is he's been invited on a free holiday and wants to show kindness and generosity to a grieving family. He's also Spanish which makes a difference.

Ponoka7 · 31/08/2025 05:52

Blushingm · 31/08/2025 05:33

So he’d bought a full shop and a meal and offered to get the fish and chips……but you said ‘no we will get ours’. So you paid for your dc, dh and yourself but didn’t offered to get your DB and his DP or DM, just your own? Well I think you’re very rude.

He'd forced the situation of him buying the shop and the meal. Then wanted gratitude. If you aren't happy with someone paying, but they insist, you don't owe any gratitude. The OP has lost her Dad, the Mum has paid out of inheritance, that's a very different situation. The BIL has now caused awkwardness, when it could have been simple. He's wanted to play big bollocks. It sounds as though he couldn't take a back seat and appreciate what this holiday meant and the focus not being on him.

Dancingspleen1 · 31/08/2025 05:49

HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 22:48

It was an outside food hall type place and Mum got herself a panini.
The fish & chips total was for 4 adults, our toddler and 2 kids our young cousins (not related to BIL). We paid for our meals and the cousins. It would have been over £40 all together but it was cheaper paying for ours and brother and BIL paying for themselves.
Admittedly we should have offered to buy Mum's lunch.

If I did a food shop on a holiday someone had kindly treated the family to there is no way I would expect people to split it and quibble about paying me back. I can understand why your BIL did this.

The update about the fish and chips scenario makes you sound a little petty quibbling about what you should pay for.
Your BIL had already paid for some stuff at this point and you didn't include his meal or even offer to pay for your Mums despite her paying for the holiday.

Blushingm · 31/08/2025 05:33

So he’d bought a full shop and a meal and offered to get the fish and chips……but you said ‘no we will get ours’. So you paid for your dc, dh and yourself but didn’t offered to get your DB and his DP or DM, just your own? Well I think you’re very rude.

Blushingm · 31/08/2025 05:31

SpiritAdder · 31/08/2025 05:02

Where was this holiday?

He was just doing the Spanish hospitality. Your reactions of no, no, we can pay our own would be considered rude and a message to BIL that he isn’t part of the family but a barely tolerated interloper. You didn’t say no, no we can pay towards the cottage to your mum did you? Or feel she “ruined” the entire holiday by paying for the cottage herself?

I cannot fathom how BIL “ruined” your holiday simply acting like any family member would.

I think youhave a chip on your shoulder about paying your own way and you don’t view BIL as a full family member. I also agree with death stare above that you were incredibly rude to not pay for their fish and chips.

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TryingAgainAgainAgain · 31/08/2025 05:24

Admittedly we should have offered to buy Mum's lunch.

This jumps out a bit. Along with the fact that you didn't just offer to pay for BIL and DB's lunch - because of some small saving? Tbf I can imagine finding that sort of hesitancy/quibbling irritating when you're in the middle of a free holiday.

SpiritAdder · 31/08/2025 05:02

Where was this holiday?

He was just doing the Spanish hospitality. Your reactions of no, no, we can pay our own would be considered rude and a message to BIL that he isn’t part of the family but a barely tolerated interloper. You didn’t say no, no we can pay towards the cottage to your mum did you? Or feel she “ruined” the entire holiday by paying for the cottage herself?

I cannot fathom how BIL “ruined” your holiday simply acting like any family member would.

I think youhave a chip on your shoulder about paying your own way and you don’t view BIL as a full family member. I also agree with death stare above that you were incredibly rude to not pay for their fish and chips.

DeathStare · 31/08/2025 04:51

HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 22:48

It was an outside food hall type place and Mum got herself a panini.
The fish & chips total was for 4 adults, our toddler and 2 kids our young cousins (not related to BIL). We paid for our meals and the cousins. It would have been over £40 all together but it was cheaper paying for ours and brother and BIL paying for themselves.
Admittedly we should have offered to buy Mum's lunch.

So at this point, your BIL had paid for a supermarket shop and a meal. He then offered to pay for fish and chips, and you insisted on paying but not for him and his husband?

If I've understood that right, I think you were unbelievably rude. Either graciously accept his offer to pay for everyone getting fish and chips or you pay for everyone. Paying for everyone except him and his husband- after he had paid for stuff twice - was really rude and a real snub. In his shoes I'd have thought you were ungrateful too - and it's not about expecting swooning thanks, but paying for everyone getting fish and chips except him and his husband? Just no.

Brandyb · 31/08/2025 00:36

mindutopia · 30/08/2025 15:49

Absolutely there are people who do it as a power move. It’s about one upping everyone and making them feel small and themselves big. Only you know if your sister and him decided they wanted to cover these costs to say thank you to your mum for her generosity in booking the holiday, or if it was a dick wagging exercise.

I have family (my side) who are very much like this, all very Mr Big Dick about paying and then make comments about everyone else’s ability to pay. My stepdad even gave me his credit card details once “just in case” I needed them to buy my mum a birthday present. I was a 40 year old professional woman with plenty of money, who could buy my mum whatever I wanted. 🙄 But some people like to think very highly of themselves.

Now dh’s family 😂 gosh, I wish someone would put their hand in their pocket. We do all the hosting. All the buying of food and drink. A whole house full at Christmas, for a week. Every occasion happens at our house. I can remember one time, 3 years ago, when BIL bought us a round of drinks to say thank you. That may or may not have been the year they contributed 2 bags of crisps to the food for the week for 7 of us.

Edited

This is a great point.

It does seem to be a power play, why not just offer and then be gracious if not accepted. BUT. It's actually a much more acute dilemma when you find yourself constantly hosting with no offer to share expenses.

I'd accept at times and then others say, "no, it's our turn" and see what happens. If he doesn't accept, that's getting trying. It's not his holiday to bestow upon you, it's a joint venture with your mum that he's a guest of, and you want to hold some of the reins.

ChiliFiend · 31/08/2025 00:24

I think everyone who says you are being unreasonable has not experienced this in the context you describe. I have - once - and it felt like a power grab; like the person wanted us to feel indebted to him. Of course it's lovely to offer to pay but you should also sense when your companions would prefer to pay once they feel accepting any more would be taking the piss. The fact he was sulking is very telling that it was a power/status thing rather than pure generosity.

MsTamborineMan · 30/08/2025 23:38

HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 22:53

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Perhaps if he didn't want to go halves on things we could have taken turns with him paying one day and us another, but he was insisting to pay for everything even though we can afford it. Made us feel like we owed him the whole holiday.

But you didn't pay for his fish and chips so how can you say you felt you owed him?

He probably felt awkward, he's on a free holiday at your mother's expense, you have DC and they dont, he earns more than you. I would feel awkward splitting a £40 fish and chips with family anyway, let alone on a free holiday

MsTamborineMan · 30/08/2025 23:28

Workingmammabear · 30/08/2025 23:13

I had a friend who dod this and, whilst initially viewing it as kind and generous, it did become annoying. the group dynamics became unbalanced as people felt like they owed Mr Generous. The same friend would often comment on the earnings of people in the group during 1 on 1 chats eg - "we need to cover xx's meal because they only earn min wage." Or he'd buy all drinks on a night out, we'd then feel obliged to drink according to his pace (he'd constantly show up at the table with rounds of drinks and shots) I used to feel guilty refusing them!

He was a genuinely lovely guy and had no idea how insulted or pressured our mutual friends felt when he insisted on paying. It was just his way. Meanwhile the others would chat amongst themselves about how annoyed they were not to be "allowed" to pay. It got very awkward and eventually - after we gently spoke to him about it - the generous guy has drifted apart from the rest of the group because he couldn't understand why we weren't just grateful. Such a shame.

But if he was happy to keep paying they didn't owe him did they?
If he was a genuinely lovely guy it's a shame you couldn't just accept it.

Workingmammabear · 30/08/2025 23:13

I had a friend who dod this and, whilst initially viewing it as kind and generous, it did become annoying. the group dynamics became unbalanced as people felt like they owed Mr Generous. The same friend would often comment on the earnings of people in the group during 1 on 1 chats eg - "we need to cover xx's meal because they only earn min wage." Or he'd buy all drinks on a night out, we'd then feel obliged to drink according to his pace (he'd constantly show up at the table with rounds of drinks and shots) I used to feel guilty refusing them!

He was a genuinely lovely guy and had no idea how insulted or pressured our mutual friends felt when he insisted on paying. It was just his way. Meanwhile the others would chat amongst themselves about how annoyed they were not to be "allowed" to pay. It got very awkward and eventually - after we gently spoke to him about it - the generous guy has drifted apart from the rest of the group because he couldn't understand why we weren't just grateful. Such a shame.

didgeridid · 30/08/2025 22:59

I actually hate it when people offer to buy things and don't take no as an answer. I find it really awkward. Obviously it's all circumstantial and is great fully accepted but sometimes it feels like you are being forced into accepting it wether you want to or not. Also it makes you feel like you can't pay your way or people feel you can't.

Edited to add -

If me and my friends or family go out, maybe I'll pay for transport, someone else will pay for the first drink. Or family will treat us to a takeaway or vice versa so it's not that we don't accept it. It's just sometimes it's forced and feels very uncomfortable

BIossomtoes · 30/08/2025 22:54

MeganM3 · 30/08/2025 16:06

Sometimes if people earn quite a lot more or have a lot more money it can feel uncomfortable splitting it.
I very often pay or pay more if I’m out with my close friend who’s struggling for money. I just want it to be one less thing she has to find the money for and I love her company, enjoy the time together and want to pay.

I do exactly the same. It feels so weird to me that anyone wouldn’t just say thank you.

HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 22:53

DiscoBob · 30/08/2025 16:16

Preposterous he could say offering to pay your own way is being ungrateful. It's the opposite.

If someone offers you something and you can afford it yourself, the default should be 'oh no, don't worry, I'll get it.' Or 'oh no, you got the shopping so it's our turn'.

So yeah he's a knob end.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Perhaps if he didn't want to go halves on things we could have taken turns with him paying one day and us another, but he was insisting to pay for everything even though we can afford it. Made us feel like we owed him the whole holiday.

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HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 22:48

MsTamborineMan · 30/08/2025 16:14

Did you split the fish and chips or did you pay for it all?
Because I'd be annoyed if someone insisted on splitting a fish and chips I'd offered to pay for. Did you pay for your mums share?

It's either one of two options in these situations (providing you put up a reasonable protest"

  1. they are being kind and generous. Fine feel free
  2. it's a bit patronising, in which case more fool them I'll enjoy my free fish and chips 🤷🏼‍♀️
Edited

It was an outside food hall type place and Mum got herself a panini.
The fish & chips total was for 4 adults, our toddler and 2 kids our young cousins (not related to BIL). We paid for our meals and the cousins. It would have been over £40 all together but it was cheaper paying for ours and brother and BIL paying for themselves.
Admittedly we should have offered to buy Mum's lunch.

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HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 22:43

Hankunamatata · 30/08/2025 16:01

Is he Irish? Iv literally seen fights over people beyond to pay the whole bill?

He's Spanish

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HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 22:42

WickedElpheba · 30/08/2025 15:59

Are they British OP?

In some cultures this is the norm
so could be that or be could just want to pay his way

We're British and BIL is Spanish

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Onwardspeople · 30/08/2025 16:28

Money is such an emotive issue and I can totally see why you are pissed off. If he’s doing it to be the “big man” and expects fawning gratitude and thanks, when you don’t even want him to pay, that’s not nice and honestly? A bit odd of him!
On the other side of this though is mine and DHs families - both sides. We would both need a lie down if either side ever offered to pay for anything 🤣🤣🤣

DiscoBob · 30/08/2025 16:16

HappyMamma2023 · 30/08/2025 15:16

Yes. He told my brother we were ungrateful he offered to pay for the chippy. And that we were ungrateful he paid for shopping and meal despite us offering to go halves. And we did say thank you after.

Preposterous he could say offering to pay your own way is being ungrateful. It's the opposite.

If someone offers you something and you can afford it yourself, the default should be 'oh no, don't worry, I'll get it.' Or 'oh no, you got the shopping so it's our turn'.

So yeah he's a knob end.

Maxorias · 30/08/2025 16:14

I get both sides. You feel uncomfortable that he's made you feel indebted to him. He wanted to do a nice thing and felt like it wasn't appreciated. Is he generally reasonable ? If so a good talk may be enough to fix the awkwardness.

MsTamborineMan · 30/08/2025 16:14

Did you split the fish and chips or did you pay for it all?
Because I'd be annoyed if someone insisted on splitting a fish and chips I'd offered to pay for. Did you pay for your mums share?

It's either one of two options in these situations (providing you put up a reasonable protest"

  1. they are being kind and generous. Fine feel free
  2. it's a bit patronising, in which case more fool them I'll enjoy my free fish and chips 🤷🏼‍♀️